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Title: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by eau de sauvage on 10/20/18 at 14:21:16 This really is at the essence of all my posts, no what Trump does but why are his obvious lie so willingly believed, and the following brilliant, short yet succinct explanation, absolutely nails it... https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/trump-lies-kavanaugh-khashoggi.html “President Obama was born in Africa,” for example, is a provable lie, but it points toward what to Trump’s supporters see as a deeper truth: President Obama is black, and therefore, isn’t really a real American. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by raydawg on 10/20/18 at 14:27:10 Why does ANYBODY believe lies? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by eau de sauvage on 10/20/18 at 15:25:45 That's an interesting topic Ray, why not start a thread about it. This thread is about why Trump's supporters 'believe' his lies. Note that 'believe' is in scare quotes, meaning that it's not so much a question needing to be answered but an explanation for what may seem puzzling. And it has been answered to my satisfaction in the article I linked to. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by raydawg on 10/20/18 at 15:29:32 71637774636567020 wrote:
Oh, so you were not asking a question then? You were only affirming what you want to believe, is that it, by posting the article? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by eau de sauvage on 10/20/18 at 19:57:59 It was a question that has puzzled me, and the author put it with more clarity than I really wanted. Is there a problem? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by thumperclone on 10/21/18 at 06:52:21 the best way to unite is to find/create a common enemy real or otherwise that was Hitlers' tactic |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/21/18 at 07:46:43 Who didn't believe destroying Libya was a humanitarian mission? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by raydawg on 10/21/18 at 10:48:09 6A766B736E7B6C7D7271707B1E0 wrote:
Yeah, reminds me of Algore at Paul Wellstones funeral. ::) |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by MnSpring on 10/21/18 at 13:26:17 67756162757371140 wrote:
Here's a question, Why do ULTRA Liberals, 'believe', the lies of the number ONE, Ultra Liberal news sight ? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by Serowbot on 10/21/18 at 13:50:30 Which news site, that's not Fox, would that be?... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by Serowbot on 10/21/18 at 14:13:27 Trump Whopper That Californians Are 'Rioting' Over Sanctuary Cities https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-agog-trump-whopper-californians-055804686.html Trump pulling facts outta' his,.. ...whatever... :-? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by eau de sauvage on 10/21/18 at 15:14:21 @Serowbot, That link is perfect for this thread. It's just directed at his supporters, they know it's all bullshit but they get the point! They all knew that Obama was born in America, the point was 'hey we got ourselves a nigga president and that is not what god intended'. The question is will the rust belt get fooled twice. Ich don't think so. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by MnSpring on 10/21/18 at 17:56:24 3C2A3D20382D203B4F0 wrote:
The crybaby UL’s done yet ? (For those new here, UL = Ultra Liberal) “We found very broad-based opposition to the idea of sanctuary cities,” said IGS Director Jack Citrin, a professor of political science at UC-Berkeley who has studied immigration for years” “So, as it turns out, Californians—Democrats, Republicans, and Independents--are actually more opposed to sanctuary cities than the rest of the United States" https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/fact-check-do-74-californians-really-oppose-sanctuary-cities "Wave of cities, counties rejecting California ban on cooperation with federal immigration policies. What started late last month with a city council vote in the Southern California suburb of Los Alamitos has grown into a wave of dissent across Orange County that is sparking a new kind of resistance in the Trump era: Californians in revolt against their own state — not the Trump administration.” http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/revolt-spreads-californians-dont-want-sanctuary-cities/ "Californians strongly oppose “sanctuary city” policies under which local authorities ignore federal requests to detain undocumented immigrants who have been arrested but are about to be released, according to a new poll released today by the Institute of Governmental Studies (IGS) at UC Berkeley. That opposition comes from strong majorities in both major political parties" http://news.berkeley.edu/2015/09/04/igs-poll-californians-oppose-sanctuary-city-flexibility/ (Just in case your eyes were tearing up from Crying, that was, Berkeley) "It’s no wonder that many native-born and legal immigrant residents of California feel that Democratic politicians reflexively elevate the claims of people who entered the country illegally over the law-abiding, tax-paying populace. The why is not a mystery – Democrats see illegal aliens and their progeny as future Democratic voters” https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/california-forum/article215126345.html "At least 14 Southern California cities and two counties have passed ordinances, and in some cases filed lawsuits, against the state’s controversial sanctuary laws that largely prohibit local and state authorities from cooperating with federal immigration officers” https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/23/california-cities-are-rebelling-against-state-sanctuary-law-but-how-far-can-they-go/ “We wanted to make sure that there was a message that local cities within the state of California don’t agree with the direction that the state is going on this.” https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/04/california-cities-fight-their-sanctuary-state/556973/ "Last month, Costa Mesa became the latest in a growing number of cities south of Los Angeles in the Orange County, to officially oppose the state’s California Values Act. The state law expands protections for undocumented immigrants by preventing, in many cases, local law enforcement from holding people at the request of federal immigration agents. The law also limits some information sharing between local law enforcement and federal immigration agents about select inmates” https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sanctuary-cities-issue-californias-resistance-trump-facing-local/story?id=55659452 Above is just a 1/2 page, Try some more! list of california cities against sanctuary list of non sanctuary cities in california californians against sanctuary state californians against sanctuary cities list of california cities against sanctuary law Now did Trump use a poor choice of word, ‘Riot’, Yea. But get yer PANTIES out of a bunch ! |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by eau de sauvage on 10/22/18 at 02:03:02 Oh look sanctuary cities, more dog whistling. In other words brown people are taking the jerbs. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by WebsterMark on 10/22/18 at 05:46:43 Trump supporters do not believe verbatim everything he says. We allow him a wide lane to roam around in because of people like you, like Sew, like TT. You hate, no you loathe, what we call average Americans. You make fun of, you laugh at, you think you're intellectually miles above. You're dumbstruck anyone would have a thought that there's a good likelihood of a higher being, you label someone bigoted if they question the need for one bathroom in a Target, that its not a given anyone can walk across our borders, you shouldn't be forced to bake a cake, that there's something wrong with Hilary, that its better to be feared abroad than liked, and a million other little things you do and say. Oh, and what you did to Kavanaugh. Trump supporters, of which I count myself one, stand by him because you've directed your hatred and embarrassment of us on to him. And he's our sword to fight back. We take him seriously but we don't believe everything he says. You don't take him seriously, but you believe everything he says. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by Eegore on 10/22/18 at 05:52:08 "if they question the need for one bathroom in a Target" Isn't it 3 bathrooms? My understanding is that there is a one male, one female, and one "neutral" bathroom. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by Eegore on 10/22/18 at 06:46:05 "We take him seriously but we don't believe everything he says. You don't take him seriously, but you believe everything he says." This is a good way to put it. How I see it is that when you like someone you are more flexible with what they can get away with. A drunk friend who breaks a window is forgiven easier than a drunk stranger who breaks a window. When you don't like someone you are more critical of everything they do. When a friend accidentally breaks a window they are forgiven easier, because accidents happen, than when that idiot you hate almost breaks a window. That jerk should watch what he's doing. The sooner we see this in ourselves, and actively acknowledge it, the sooner we have selective arguments that get us somewhere than fights that just piss us off. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by MnSpring on 10/22/18 at 06:46:38 063433222534231C30233A510 wrote:
That is a excellent Statement ! |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by WebsterMark on 10/22/18 at 07:33:52 Can't take complete credit for that, read something similar a couple years ago. But it sums up Trump and his supporters very well. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 08:57:12 59797B736E791C0 wrote:
That's fine, and I get where you're coming from, but that's not the entire story when it comes to this particular situation in my opinion. For 8 years we listened to the conservatives b!tch and moan about "how terrible things were". For 8 years they nitpicked Obama and his administration, his personal activities, his religion, his wife, and on and on. Now, in the age of trump - who anyone can see is a far worse human being (in terms of his supposed Christianity, his past affairs, his three marriages, etc.) - the conservatives call foul on the liberals and anyone else who opposes this man. You want to talk policy? Fine. But don't try and tell everyone now that the rules of conduct are somehow different now that trump's in office. Do you remember how trump himself criticized Obama for "golfing so much"? Do you remember how trump led the birther movement (while at the same time has a wife that had an anchor baby with him)? I'll put this out there one more time - yeah, I hate trump the man. I don't think he's fit for office. His only "experience" was a reality TV show. He is so thin skinned, narcissistic, petty, childish and unintelligent that he brings the office of president down to the lowest level in our country's history. The man deserves no respect because he shows no respect - period. Now, that being said, the whole idea about whether or not to take a president's word seriously is unimaginable. Where do you draw the line? I'm not talking about you or I, I'm talking about the president. Has there ever been a president that has blatantly lied as much as trump? Has there ever been a president who addressed the general public with such disregard? Has there ever been a president to state categorically that "I alone can fix it"? The answer to those is "No". Now, I get giving leeway. I totally understand being more tolerant of "your guy" is simply human nature - you stated it very well above. But what do you do when it's more than a broken window that your friend breaks? Where do you draw the line at forgiveness? When he runs his car into your garage door? When he burns down your house? When he kills your dog with his car? You see Eegor - in my opinion, we've gotten far past that level of forgiveness. And to be clear, it has very, very little to do with the administration and everything to do with trump. As anyone can see, the economy is continuing to improve (for now) - but let's be real, it's on the same path as Obama had it on. I think some things, like the "new NAFTA" could actually be an improvement. But that has very, very little to do with trump and everything to do with the administration. Where have we gotten to in this country if we don't take every single statement from the president seriously? This isn't the "good old days". We live in a new world and everything a president says or does is on the record. For better or worse, that's where we are as a country. The president is expected to understand this and live by those rules. If there really is a difference, how in the world can people make the distinction between what he states and what means? We can't. That's not our job - that's his. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 08:58:03 I take him seriously, not literally. Funny how touchy lefties are about the truth with Trump. Funnier still how blind about it they are when Obama's Big, Impactful lies are talked about. Libya, humanitarian mission.. Really? Destroy the most prosperous nation in Africa and call it a humanitarian mission.. What a buncha dupes. Bamicare is a train wreck. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 09:00:03 4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 wrote:
Go ahead and beat those horses to death jog. It ain't nothin' compared to your boy's lies. In the thousands so far. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 09:13:41 The difference being the actual impact. People are STILL dying from the destruction of Libya. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 09:26:48 607F797E63645565556D7F73380A0 wrote:
Yeah, because that was all Obama, right? None of those war hawks in Congress had anything to do with it....... |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by MnSpring on 10/22/18 at 09:52:46 617F70717C617A67150 wrote:
YEA it WAS !!!!! Don't even think of 'spinning' that ! The people will argue for and against. It was YOUR Buddy bama, that made the choice ! OH, and that YOU hate Trump, Trump supporters, Trump voters, people that Trump supports. We got It No need for you to keep Crying abut it ! |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 09:58:42 5E7D4063617A7D74130 wrote:
YEA it WAS !!!!! No, it wasn't. You have no idea how it works, don't try and pretend. Don't even think of 'spinning' that ! The people will argue for and against. It was YOUR Buddy bama, that made the choice ! - He was not alone in his choice. He followed his advisors' advice. OH, and that YOU hate Trump, Trump supporters, - I never said that, you're lying. Trump voters, - I never said that, you're lying. people that Trump supports. - I never said that, you're lying. We got It - yeah, we do - you're a liar. No need for you to keep Crying abut it ! [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 10:15:32 2B353A3B362B302D5F0 wrote:
Yeah, because that was all Obama, right? None of those war hawks in Congress had anything to do with it.......[/quote] The Commander in Chief couldn't stop it? The POINT is Obama LIED. And schmucks believed it. A Humanitarian Mission? Lefties supported it. Lefties BELIEVED that lie. Own it. Roll around in it. Revel in it. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 10:20:10 0A151314090E3F0F3F07151952600 wrote:
Yeah, because that was all Obama, right? None of those war hawks in Congress had anything to do with it.......[/quote] The Commander in Chief couldn't stop it? The POINT is Obama LIED. And schmucks believed it. - Hi pot - meet kettle... A Humanitarian Mission? Lefties supported it. Lefties BELIEVED that lie. Own it. I do own it. I don't like what happened. Own your lying saviour... he can't find the truth with both hands and a roadmap... Roll around in it. Revel in it. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 10:29:41 He's not responsible for lying to us to our destruction or the destruction of others. His lies just piss off lefties. He gets something outta Context and He's a LIAR to you lefties. Take him seriously. Not literally. And you WILL cut down on your monthly cost of Butthurt Ointment. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 10:36:21 392620273A3D0C3C0C34262A61530 wrote:
Hypocrite. All this bluster about Obama, but nothing said about Khashoggi's death? Nothing about the failure in PR's hurricane? Nothing about his lies of the deaths in FL? Party over all, right jog? SMH |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 10:46:56 The usual head-nodders on TV seem stunned by the news. They can hardly believe that a bloodthirsty, medieval theocracy would do this. Really? The Saudis? The same people that cut off the hands of thieves and behead adulterers in public parks?” Carlson asked sarcastically. I don't believe you know squat about the things you attribute to trump. Libya, OTOH, was up front and in public. We must SAVE the PeePull of Libyuh from the Brutal Diktater , By bombing Them into the stone age! And Gadhaffi went to the U.N. Security council and TOLD THEM If you take me out, Europe will be flooded with refugees. It was obvious enough. So, either the decision making is done by idiots Or The end result WAS the goal. And Obama LIED to us. The Antiwar Party cheered. Lefties BELIEVED that lie. And continue to believe. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 10:52:28 How about we cease dealing with China? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 11:56:29 445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 11:58:26 37282E2934330232023A28246F5D0 wrote:
That's a good question. Ask the corporate overlords/oligarchs. I think they're more than willing to overlook human rights atrocities for a higher margin on their products. I mean, it hasn't stopped them yet so... |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 12:26:16 Thank GOD no democrats ARE those corporate monsters or you would lose your mind.. Phhht.. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 12:36:04 584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
I never said there weren't. But the vast majority ARE cons. Seriously jog, who the hell you think drafted the tax breaks that orange julius signed? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by LostArtist on 10/22/18 at 16:13:06 okay, seriously.. everyone, think about this: Take him seriously. Not literally. what are you basing your serious interpretation on?? he says things, but those things don't really matter(if they are exaggerated, hyperbolic, inflamatory, instigating, just flat out made up (riots in California?) ? but you're all serious about it??? so you're basing your seriousness on a salesman's lies and exaggerations... the hyperbolic language and the emotion you feel from it is more important to you than the actual facts (literalness) of it??? if someone tells you it's raining cats and dogs outside and you go out and it's barely sprinkling, would you still get all your rain gear and boots and umbrellas and run to your car? does the reality of what he says actually mean anything to you? how do you have the balls to say we're delusional, that we have TDS, what we believe craziness, that we are ignorant, when you are believing lies, but not really, but yet in a serious way??? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 16:45:13 Stop being so literal. Get over it. America is BENEFITING from Trump. He's not Presidential. He says stuff that is not P.C... And you ain't seen Nothing yet. Next time, he won't be needing to be reelected. No Telling what kinda rude crap he's gonna be saying. You should vote for him, if for no reason other than to see what he does. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/18 at 16:50:52 2B353A3B362B302D5F0 wrote:
[/quote] Yes, Obama LIED. He said it was a humanitarian mission. THAT'S NOT HOW YOU HELP PEOPLE. Why have a "goal" of a flood of refugees? Seriously It requires a much more complicated grasp of the world to see how that could possibly be a goal. I DIDN'T say it was, but it was the obvious result of wiping Libya out, and they did it anyway. If you want to stir the melting pot, drive societies to economic ruin, they started the process. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by LostArtist on 10/22/18 at 18:37:32 534C4A4D50576656665E4C400B390 wrote:
No, I won't stop being "so literal." this is how language works, somebody says something, someone else hears those words and judges them based on their knowledge of facts, reality and values, if they find those words to be hyperbolic, offensive, exaggerated and outright lies, what kind of person takes that seriously??!! but NO, let's do it your way, let's take thing seriously but not literally, let's let our emotions and hubris lead the way...... Warrens DNA, oh, that's okay, don't take it so literally.... but it's serious that she has Native American ancestors.... "if you like your plan you can keep you plan" shhhh, he's not being literal, he was saying that there'll probably be a plan just like your plan on the new exchanges..... even if they are completely different, quit being so literal man.... "humanitarian mission in Libya" it'll help someone right? it doesn't have to literally be an actual success, at least we tried right? and seriously, we need to back up our NATO allies on this one.... so let's take it seriously even if there's not literally a humanitarian mission.... $110 billion and 6000 job arms deal in Saudi... that's serious enough to risk taking some more injury to our moral high ground... oh it's literally only $25 billion..... well, still, serious enough right??? and on and on and on.... and I thought you cared about the truth |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 19:07:14 332C2A2D30370636063E2C206B590 wrote:
Never, ever - even with a gun to my head, would I vote for that moron. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/22/18 at 19:25:15 http://www.nrdc.org/trump-lies http://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/ Both of these links have far too many items (lies) to list. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by WebsterMark on 10/23/18 at 06:54:02 Where have we gotten to in this country if we don't take every single statement from the president seriously? A little reality check is in order. Obama lied repeatedly in office. All Presidents do, and he was no exception. Now, you can claim whatever lies were minimal and harmless, but I would beg to differ. During his campaign, "More black men languish in prison that attend colleges across America". Wrong. And let’s not even bring up the fact this was dealing race cards. Of course, the big whopper “if you like your plan you can keep you plan.” That was a huge one because it was told to sway opinion. Allowing the Hilary story to continue that the Benghazi attack was spontaneous due to the uproar caused by an inflammatory video tape. Nice lie to cover his a$$. I'm pretty sure I know what happened there. When they got a request for more security, they decided it would weaken their position that the situation was under control, so they said no. When the $hit the fan and the Ambassador was killed, Obama told Hilary if she stuck by a story that covered him, he'd support her during her election. She took the blame knowing the media would provide enough cover to survive it which she did. Has there ever been a president who addressed the general public with such disregard? Well, as a matter of fact, yes. "You didn't build that" was a statement that put on full display his lack of understanding of America. His lack of business experience. It displayed the fact his entire life before being in office was academic or political. He had and still has, zero knowledge of how things get done in this country. He was voted into the Senate because of how he was packaged, not what was on the inside. He was in the senate for two years, having accomplished nothing of value, when he announced he was exploring the Presidency. He was a bright, shiny package. Has there ever been a president to state categorically that "I alone can fix it"? Is there any statement more narcissist than this? generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by MShipley on 10/23/18 at 07:19:09 I did not have sex with that woman. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by LostArtist on 10/23/18 at 08:26:32 4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
if you can't be consistent and honest with yourself, why bother talking to anyone else, debate is useless, the reality is we need to take Presidential statements both literally AND seriously |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by LostArtist on 10/23/18 at 08:28:22 514F74756C7079651C0 wrote:
well, literally did he??? are all sexual activities sex? or just vaginal intercourse? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by MShipley on 10/23/18 at 08:30:19 70534F487D4E48554F483C0 wrote:
well, literally did he??? are all sexual activities sex? or just vaginal intercourse? [/quote] Let's say it was your Daughter! How would you interpret it? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/23/18 at 08:34:09 0F3D3A2B2C3D2A15392A33580 wrote:
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/23/18 at 08:35:18 011F24253C2029354C0 wrote:
Yeah, that was one that Clinton made.... trump is up around 4000 - yes.. FOUR THOUSAND |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by MShipley on 10/23/18 at 08:45:36 140A050409140F12600 wrote:
Yeah, that was one that Clinton made.... trump is up around 4000 - yes.. FOUR THOUSAND[/quote] Is it impossible for people on this forum to just have a laugh? |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by WebsterMark on 10/23/18 at 08:59:24 You play that context card pretty conveniently.... But the facts remain. I've never believed that 4000 lie BS. Like you, I suspect the stretch the definition of what's a truth or not to suit them. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by LostArtist on 10/23/18 at 09:29:57 4E7C7B6A6D7C6B54786B72190 wrote:
because you don't do the SAME THING against democrats..... ::) |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/23/18 at 09:43:13 754740515647506F435049220 wrote:
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by WebsterMark on 10/23/18 at 10:15:19 You just proved my point, thank you. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by eau de sauvage on 10/23/18 at 10:26:06 @JoG, America is BENEFITING from Trump. How? He put a lobbyist for the oil industry as head of the EPA, he put a schools for profit billionaire in charge of education. He gave tax cuts to the wealthy. He has encouraged racism and polarisation of American society. Probably the worst of his actions are the demeaning of women and the promotion of misogynistic attitudes. OK he's caused the upward trend of employment to reverse and he has overseen a rise in company profits that have seen a large growth in wages... Oh wait... he hasn't.... http://https://i.postimg.cc/XYhzb08Z/jobs.jpg http://https://i.postimg.cc/vHZqxm2g/profits.jpg http://https://i.postimg.cc/XqQsDMqY/umprat.jpg http://https://i.postimg.cc/7ZCKXWkq/weak.jpg http://https://i.postimg.cc/hPDw8svG/destroyed.jpg |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by LostArtist on 10/23/18 at 10:38:16 013334252233241B37243D560 wrote:
the only point he proved is that you cherry pick what you want to hear and don't actually listen and comprehend anything that doesn't fit YOUR AGENDA...... your mind just can't handle context and nuance... your brain is insufficient... |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by WebsterMark on 10/23/18 at 11:04:01 That's your agenda Lost. |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by LostArtist on 10/23/18 at 11:19:50 1D2F28393E2F38072B38214A0 wrote:
nope, just my observation |
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Title: Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies... Post by T And T Garage on 10/23/18 at 14:39:53 457770616677605F736079120 wrote:
Huh?.... Proved what point? I just proved that your point about "you didn't build that" is wrong. Do you honestly not see the context of the speech?? (probably not) |
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