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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Listen up............. /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1540313147 Message started by raydawg on 10/23/18 at 09:45:47 |
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Title: Listen up............. Post by raydawg on 10/23/18 at 09:45:47 What is SCREAMING at me is this question/observation...... If the Mueller investigation had found any factual evidence to Trump, and Russia, OR, any proof that Trump tried to interfere in this investigation, other than publicly calling it a witch hunt, etc.... I would bet the ranch on it, that it would have leaked out by now. Which, leads me to believe none exist...... However, if it does, and he ( Mueller) withheld it till after the midterm vote, he is going to get clobbered, by the liberals UNLESS they win BIG, which just doesn't appear to be the case at the moment...... I still believe Comey, cost Hillary, with his move to reopen the investigation so close to the election, lots of people were undecided because of the poor choices, I think that ambivalence is still present, and the last minute voters will decide it again. |
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Title: Re: Listen up............. Post by WebsterMark on 10/23/18 at 10:01:20 Good point. Everything else leaked so why not this? It's because there's nothing to leak. Same with the Kavanaugh FBI investigation, nothing leaked cause there was nothing to leak. But I question your other observation. Did anyone really change their vote on Hilary? |
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Title: Re: Listen up............. Post by raydawg on 10/23/18 at 11:13:36 Well Web.... I don’t know as fact if the Comey surprise changed votes re: Hillary, however, using the law of averages, I believe it would be wiser to lay your money on a 50/50 split, than the “undecided” going all in for Trump. I believe the “handicapping” of determining the odds would then favor Trump, as he was the lessor known commodity of the two. Hillary could never break away from her negativite ratings, never, in two attempts, with two different opponents with major differences in philosophical foundations. You factor in her bolstering, by the mainstream media, academia, Hollywood/entertainment industry, etc, you must then consider that into handicapping the outcome as well, which, I believe favors her because the “low informed” voter, by nature, is too lazy to really delve into the issues deeply, and by default, whim, or otherwise, vote on the “soundbites” of those who have the greatest saturation of the “airwaves” That is why I think it hurt her, because this damaging investigation was brought to their attention by the FBI....NOT the RNC or Rush Limbaugh ;D Those faithful of either party, is pretty much static, and secure, without much convincing needed, however, even that is changing, as we saw with the Tea Party, and now seeing a “socialist” wing crowding out the white middle class “man” and married/mothered woman, from the parties mainstream. Make any sense? |
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Title: Re: Listen up............. Post by WebsterMark on 10/23/18 at 11:23:35 With two other candidates, maybe. If it had been Bernie vs Trump and the FBI thing happened to Bernie, maybe it makes a difference. With Hilary, i don't think so. There hasn't been any candidate people hate as much as her............except for Trump. I've never spoken to any person who said they switched votes because of the FBI issues. I've never spoken to anyone who said they voted for Trump who says they wouldn't again. I'm sure their are a few, but not many. |
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Title: Re: Listen up............. Post by Serowbot on 10/23/18 at 13:30:51 You mean this nuttinburger?... :-/ Who has been charged with crimes George Papadopoulos George Papadopoulos Former campaign adviser Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with people he believed were working on behalf of Russians (pleaded guilty Oct. 5, 2017) Sentenced to 14 days in prison Sept. 7, 2018 Sam Patten Sam Patten Lobbyist linked to Paul Manafort Failing to register to work as an agent of a foreign power Pleaded guilty Aug. 31, 2018 Paul Manafort Paul Manafort Former campaign chairman Tax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal, obstruction of justice Convicted of financial fraud Aug. 21, 2018 Michael D. Cohen Michael D. Cohen Mr. Trump’s former lawyer Tax evasion, bank fraud, campaign finance violations Pleaded guilty Aug. 21, 2018 Alex van der Zwaan Alex van der Zwaan Lawyer who worked with Mr. Manafort and Mr. Gates Lying to investigators about conversations with Mr. Gates (pleaded guilty Feb. 20, 2018) Sentenced to 30 days in prison April 3, 2018 Rick Gates Rick Gates Former campaign adviser Financial fraud and lying to the F.B.I. Pleaded guilty Feb. 23, 2018 Richard Pinedo Richard Pinedo California man who sold bank accounts online Identity fraud Pleaded guilty Feb. 12, 2018 Michael T. Flynn Michael T. Flynn Former national security adviser Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador Pleaded guilty Dec. 1, 2017 Thirteen Russian nationals Thirteen Russian nationals and three related companies Conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft Konstantin V. Kilimnik Konstantin V. Kilimnik Russian Army-trained linguist and associate of Mr. Manafort Obstruction of justice Twelve Russian intelligence officers Twelve Russian intelligence officers Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money |
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Title: Re: Listen up............. Post by T And T Garage on 10/23/18 at 14:38:04 And now ty cobb comes out and says: “Bob Mueller is an American hero in my view,” Cobb said during a panel with Jack Quinn, who served as White House lawyer under former President Bill Clinton. “He was a very serious prosecutor. He and I first met in the mid-’80s when we were prosecuting different places, and I have respected him throughout.” http://www.yahoo.com/news/former-white-house-lawyer-ty-190710131.html |
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Title: Re: Listen up............. Post by raydawg on 10/23/18 at 15:07:33 Uh Bot..... Did you read my post, did you understand it? I am talking about the report that has NOT released its findings, as to date.... You understand that means no ones else except the immediate folks working on it, have seen it, right? The stuff you listed is already out there, and folks can decide if it had anything at all to do with the original intentions of finding evidence of Trump colluding directly with Russia. Go ahead and school me if the things you listed, how do any of those charges tie in with Trump and Russia stealing the election? |
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Title: Re: Listen up............. Post by raydawg on 10/24/18 at 10:25:54 I got lots of time. So whoever you want to show me how any of that on your reply, is proof, on Trump in cohoots with Putin, as the original claim was instigated..... I would still just love being educated. Thank you! |
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Title: Re: Listen up............. Post by T And T Garage on 10/24/18 at 10:29:45 64776F72776171160 wrote:
LOL - desperate much there ray? Have a cookie and a nap, you won't feel so needy afterwards. |
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