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Message started by MnSpring on 10/25/18 at 07:53:00

Title: migrant caravan
Post by MnSpring on 10/25/18 at 07:53:00

The latest one, about 7,200,
wonder how many, Terrorists,
are hiding in that, Trojan Horse.

As they hid in the past ones,
And the, ‘Forced’, refugees resettlement's.

Think their is any correlation to:
Minn, the Most Somalians, outside of Somalia.
And MN, has the Most, ‘home grown’, Terrorists.

http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-leads-the-nation-in-would-be-isil-terrorists-from-u-s-report-finds/329942131/
http://www.startribune.com/study-minnesota-twin-cities-show-unusually-active-rate-of-terror-recruitment/472820363/
https://www.businessinsider.com/minneapolis-isis-problem-2015-9
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/02/us/somali-minnesota-photos/
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/02/us/somali-minnesota-photos/

Wait, Forgot, the UL, Panty in a bunch, Progressive Fairy Dust Sprinklers, will say,  fake news.
While saying at the same time: ‘Your back yard, Not Mine’.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by Serowbot on 10/25/18 at 08:06:46

Trump knows his base,.. they are motivated by fear.
Feed the fear,... boost voter turnout...

How many of your Somali Muslim Minnesotans came to America via 3,000 mile hike from Guatemala?...
How many took a plane?...

Why do you think some are being radicalized when you are so accepting and kind to them?....
::)

Hate and violence are always motivated by fear.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by WebsterMark on 10/25/18 at 08:24:28


5147504D55404D56220 wrote:
Trump knows his base,.. they are motivated by fear.
Feed the fear,... boost voter turnout...

How many of your Somali Muslim Minnesotans came to America via 3,000 mile hike from Guatemala?...
How many took a plane?...

Why do you think some are being radicalized when you are so accepting and kind to them?....
::)

Hate and violence are always motivated by fear.


What motivates your hatred of Trump?

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by raydawg on 10/25/18 at 09:20:01


0F3D3A2B2C3D2A15392A33580 wrote:
[quote author=5147504D55404D56220 link=1540479180/0#1 date=1540480006]Trump knows his base,.. they are motivated by fear.
Feed the fear,... boost voter turnout...

How many of your Somali Muslim Minnesotans came to America via 3,000 mile hike from Guatemala?...
How many took a plane?...

Why do you think some are being radicalized when you are so accepting and kind to them?....
::)

Hate and violence are always motivated by fear.


What motivates your hatred of Trump?[/quote]

Interesting.........

FOX NEWS?

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/25/18 at 09:27:00


2335223F27323F24500 wrote:
Trump knows his base,.. they are motivated by fear.
Feed the fear,... boost voter turnout...

How many of your Somali Muslim Minnesotans came to America via 3,000 mile hike from Guatemala?...
How many took a plane?...

Why do you think some are being radicalized when you are so accepting and kind to them?....
::)

Hate and violence are always motivated by fear.



Grand Slam Homerun!

Very well put Sero!

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by MShipley on 10/25/18 at 10:50:45

Well I am sure this is an issue to fuel the fires.... Not sure who is behind this march but in all reality We are a Nation of Laws and a group of non-citizens have NO RIGHT to simply storm our borders and demand anything.

If you read Dinsh Dezosa's book "What is great about America" he points out that Gandhi and the people of India would lie down on Rail Road tracks to stop commerce. The reason they did this is because of the innate GOODNESS of western culture. we of course would not run over them. However? Would they be that bold if that train had a swastika on the front of it? I think not.

These people aren't stupid. There is a reason they are all carrying a child. We will not shoot, throw tear gas or anything else at them. Additionally the "Outcry for the Children" would be ridiculous. Forget about the fact that they all just took these kids on a 2,500 mile hike in the heat with no food or water.

I know we want to say this was a Grass Roots movement from Honduras. Perhaps it was but it has morphed into a huge political issue and it grew because of the possibilities. Everyone jumped on the band wagon and have turned this into another circus.

This is just another politicized mess with the Republicans stoking the fires of fear and the Democrats stoking the fires of fear also. There is nothing that will come of any good to the American people or the people on this march.

IMHO, If we really care about these people then the attention has to be helping people where they are. Sorry but the March is just a drop in the bucket. It's an emotional event but does not help many. And as we all know "When emotions run high, Intelligence runs low".  I typically travel to Nicaragua once or twice a year. We go for a week the cost to you is about $1,500 and that includes your room and board at the mission house. We build homes, churches, take doctors and all kinds of good stuff. If anyone wanted to go you can get in touch with me. I promise it will change your life and your outlook on the world.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by LostArtist on 10/25/18 at 11:34:26

So....

What happened to the last caravan???


Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by LostArtist on 10/25/18 at 11:38:21


140A313029353C20590 wrote:
Well I am sure this is an issue to fuel the fires.... Not sure who is behind this march but in all reality We are a Nation of Laws and a group of non-citizens have NO RIGHT to simply storm our borders and demand anything.

If you read Dinsh Dezosa's book "What is great about America" he points out that Gandhi and the people of India would lie down on Rail Road tracks to stop commerce. The reason they did this is because of the innate GOODNESS of western culture. we of course would not run over them. However? Would they be that bold if that train had a swastika on the front of it? I think not.

so you'd rather us be more like the Nazis????

edit:  just to clarify, I know you don't, based on the rest of your post....  I don't mean to compare you to those that might, just making a point to highlight the direction some are encouraging we go in.


These people aren't stupid. There is a reason they are all carrying a child. We will not shoot, throw tear gas or anything else at them. Additionally the "Outcry for the Children" would be ridiculous. Forget about the fact that they all just took these kids on a 2,500 mile hike in the heat with no food or water.

I know we want to say this was a Grass Roots movement from Honduras. Perhaps it was but it has morphed into a huge political issue and it grew because of the possibilities. Everyone jumped on the band wagon and have turned this into another circus.

This is just another politicized mess with the Republicans stoking the fires of fear and the Democrats stoking the fires of fear also. There is nothing that will come of any good to the American people or the people on this march.

IMHO, If we really care about these people then the attention has to be helping people where they are. Sorry but the March is just a drop in the bucket. It's an emotional event but does not help many. And as we all know "When emotions run high, Intelligence runs low".  

absolutely agree, so let's not cut off aid to them either....


I typically travel to Nicaragua once or twice a year. We go for a week the cost to you is about $1,500 and that includes your room and board at the mission house. We build homes, churches, take doctors and all kinds of good stuff. If anyone wanted to go you can get in touch with me. I promise it will change your life and your outlook on the world.




Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/25/18 at 12:06:13

I think it's hilarious that some believe that the caravan is paid for by the democrats!!

;D ;D

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by MShipley on 10/25/18 at 12:14:55

LostArtist wrote: so you'd rather us be more like the Nazis????

edit:  just to clarify, I know you don't, based on the rest of your post....  I don't mean to compare you to those that might, just making a point to highlight the direction some are encouraging we go in.

I was only suggesting that others in this world do take advantage of our innate Goodness

I have a lot of compassion for the situation millions live in on this earth, I don't agree with this type of resolution to the problems. This kind of action does nothing to resolve the issues that these people are supposedly fleeing and millions still live there.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by LostArtist on 10/25/18 at 13:07:06


2C320908110D0418610 wrote:
LostArtist wrote: so you'd rather us be more like the Nazis????

edit:  just to clarify, I know you don't, based on the rest of your post....  I don't mean to compare you to those that might, just making a point to highlight the direction some are encouraging we go in.

I was only suggesting that others in this world do take advantage of our innate Goodness

I have a lot of compassion for the situation millions live in on this earth, I don't agree with this type of resolution to the problems. This kind of action does nothing to resolve the issues that these people are supposedly fleeing and millions still live there.



[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by MnSpring on 10/25/18 at 13:38:39


697F68756D78756E1A0 wrote:
Why do you think some are being radicalized when you are so accepting and kind to them?....

They were treated, BETTER, than Citizens.
Were given MORE things, than Working Citizens.

Bot, how many times can you pet a Rattle Snake, before it bites you ?



Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by verslagen1 on 10/25/18 at 13:51:49


5E7D4063617A7D74130 wrote:
[quote author=697F68756D78756E1A0 link=1540479180/0#1 date=1540480006]
Why do you think some are being radicalized when you are so accepting and kind to them?....

They were treated, BETTER, than Citizens.
Were given MORE things, than Working Citizens.

Bot, how many times can you pet a Rattle Snake, before it bites you ?


[/quote]
Just tell your pet snake to hold your pet rock while you pet it and you can pet it as long as you want.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by MnSpring on 10/25/18 at 14:13:28


62415D5A6F5C5A475D5A2E0 wrote:
so you'd rather us be more like the Nazis????

I don't think their are a lot of people here, (in the US), that want that.
Yet their are some.

Keep in mind, the Nazi party was 'officially' called:
"National Socialist German Workers' Party"
It was Not called the
National Capitalist German Workers' Party


Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by LostArtist on 10/25/18 at 14:29:32


45665B787A61666F080 wrote:
[quote author=62415D5A6F5C5A475D5A2E0 link=1540479180/0#7 date=1540492701]so you'd rather us be more like the Nazis????

I don't think their are a lot of people here, (in the US), that want that.
Yet their are some.

Keep in mind, the Nazi party was 'officially' called:
"National Socialist German Workers' Party"
It was Not called the
National Capitalist German Workers' Party

[/quote]


yeah and North Korea is officially knowns as " Democratic People's Republic of Korea"

get a clue  ::)

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/18 at 07:13:30


435D52535E435845370 wrote:
I think it's hilarious that some believe that the caravan is paid for by the democrats!!  


Which UL Democrat,
TOLD YOU That ?


Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 07:17:45


1635082B2932353C5B0 wrote:
[quote author=435D52535E435845370 link=1540479180/0#8 date=1540494373]I think it's hilarious that some believe that the caravan is paid for by the democrats!!  


Which UL Democrat,
TOLD YOU That ?

[/quote]

None obviously.  Your idiot saviour president said it:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/22/fact-check-trumps-claims-migrant-caravan

Trump’s claim: ‘Democrats are paying members of the caravan to try and get into the US to harm Republicans in the midterms’

Educate yourself.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/18 at 07:39:46


697778797469726F1D0 wrote:
 Educate yourself.


I have, it's a BIG CASE of TDS

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 07:44:01


0B281536342F2821460 wrote:
[quote author=697778797469726F1D0 link=1540479180/15#16 date=1540563465]  Educate yourself.


I have, it's a BIG CASE of TDS
[/quote]

Yeah, you do have a big case of TDS - you're the poster child mn.   ;D ;D . You walked right into that one.  See how important language is?? (of course you don't..)

Hey, any proof on your claim that inner city Minnesota schools are teaching the Qur'an

Or - are you lying?

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/18 at 07:51:24


7E606F6E637E65780A0 wrote:
 See how important language is?? (of course you don't..)

Typical  TROLL,
First YOU criticize my use of, 'Commas',
Than YOU, totally, IGNORE the, 'comma'.
Then YOU criticize (what you believe), is lack of understanding, 'Context'.
Then YOU, completely take something out of 'content'.

A-Yep, TROLL, 101.





Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 07:54:39


02211C3F3D2621284F0 wrote:
[quote author=7E606F6E637E65780A0 link=1540479180/15#18 date=1540565041] See how important language is?? (of course you don't..)

Typical  TROLL,
First YOU criticize my use of, 'Commas',
Than YOU, totally, IGNORE the, 'comma'.
Then YOU criticize (what you believe), is lack of understanding, 'Context'.
Then YOU, completely take something out of 'content'.

A-Yep, TROLL, 101.
[/quote]

You have no idea how to communicate, that's not my fault.  Educate yourself.

On top of that, you're a liar.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by WebsterMark on 10/26/18 at 08:21:48

I heard Trump is sending troops to the border. He better.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 08:24:32


536166777061764965766F040 wrote:
I heard Trump is sending troops to the border. He better.


Impotent show of "power".

They're a thousand miles away from TX and the numbers are dwindling...

Too bad he wasn't as proactive with the hurricanes...

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by raydawg on 10/26/18 at 08:46:01


5F414E4F425F44592B0 wrote:
[quote author=536166777061764965766F040 link=1540479180/15#21 date=1540567308]I heard Trump is sending troops to the border. He better.


Impotent show of "power".

They're a thousand miles away from TX and the numbers are dwindling...

Too bad he wasn't as proactive with the hurricanes... [/quote]

Oh yeah.....Trump: " I declare you turn around and leave right now....or else!"

Uh, he ain't God, is that why you hate him so much?

I give dirt 2 more points that you, goodness.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by WebsterMark on 10/26/18 at 08:48:22

Too bad he wasn't as proactive with the hurricanes...

Yea, too bad he didn't wave his hand and stop them......


Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 09:15:03


11021A07021404630 wrote:
[quote author=5F414E4F425F44592B0 link=1540479180/15#22 date=1540567472][quote author=536166777061764965766F040 link=1540479180/15#21 date=1540567308]I heard Trump is sending troops to the border. He better.


Impotent show of "power".

They're a thousand miles away from TX and the numbers are dwindling...

Too bad he wasn't as proactive with the hurricanes... [/quote]

Oh yeah.....Trump: " I declare you turn around and leave right now....or else!"

Uh, he ain't God, is that why you hate him so much?

No, that's not at all what I mean.  How can you not understand that??  I'm talking about ground support for the hurricane victims.

Wow, you're thick as a brick I see...

I give dirt 2 more points that you, goodness. - What the hell does that mean?
[/quote]



Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 09:16:18


596B6C7D7A6B7C436F7C650E0 wrote:
Too bad he wasn't as proactive with the hurricanes...

Yea, too bad he didn't wave his hand and stop them......

I see you've enrolled in the ray school of ignorance.

I was talking about ground support for the hurricane victims...

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by raydawg on 10/26/18 at 09:29:16


5D434C4D405D465B290 wrote:
[quote author=11021A07021404630 link=1540479180/15#23 date=1540568761][quote author=5F414E4F425F44592B0 link=1540479180/15#22 date=1540567472][quote author=536166777061764965766F040 link=1540479180/15#21 date=1540567308]I heard Trump is sending troops to the border. He better.


Impotent show of "power".

They're a thousand miles away from TX and the numbers are dwindling...

Too bad he wasn't as proactive with the hurricanes... [/quote]

Oh yeah.....Trump: " I declare you turn around and leave right now....or else!"

Uh, he ain't God, is that why you hate him so much?

No, that's not at all what I mean.  How can you not understand that??  I'm talking about ground support for the hurricane victims.

Wow, you're thick as a brick I see...

I give dirt 2 more points that you, goodness. - What the hell does that mean?
[/quote]


[/quote]

Oh yea, sorry.....
How would you understand a remark like that.

I score dirt, with 2 more 'Intelligence Quotient', than what you achieve, by what you exhibit here.

I can draw you a picture, if its still above your ability to comprehend...  

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by WebsterMark on 10/26/18 at 09:30:41

I was talking about ground support for the hurricane victims...

As someone who wets his pants whenever Trump says anything ambiguous, you'd think you'd be a bit more clear.....

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 09:31:49


62716974716777100 wrote:
[quote author=5D434C4D405D465B290 link=1540479180/15#25 date=1540570503][quote author=11021A07021404630 link=1540479180/15#23 date=1540568761][quote author=5F414E4F425F44592B0 link=1540479180/15#22 date=1540567472][quote author=536166777061764965766F040 link=1540479180/15#21 date=1540567308]I heard Trump is sending troops to the border. He better.


Impotent show of "power".

They're a thousand miles away from TX and the numbers are dwindling...

Too bad he wasn't as proactive with the hurricanes... [/quote]

Oh yeah.....Trump: " I declare you turn around and leave right now....or else!"

Uh, he ain't God, is that why you hate him so much?

No, that's not at all what I mean.  How can you not understand that??  I'm talking about ground support for the hurricane victims.

Wow, you're thick as a brick I see...

I give dirt 2 more points that you, goodness. - What the hell does that mean?
[/quote]


[/quote]

Oh yea, sorry.....
How would you understand a remark like that.

I score dirt, with 2 more 'Intelligence Quotient', than what you achieve, by what you exhibit here.

I can draw you a picture, if its still above your ability to comprehend...  
[/quote]

Spell check is your friend ray.

But even when you make someone assume that "that" is "than" - the put down is weak at best.

Another poor attempt at being witty.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 09:32:31


497B7C6D6A7B6C537F6C751E0 wrote:
I was talking about ground support for the hurricane victims...

As someone who wets his pants whenever Trump says anything ambiguous, you'd think you'd be a bit more clear.....



Again, it shows you have no capacity for context.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by WebsterMark on 10/26/18 at 09:32:33

No, that's not at all what I mean.  How can you not understand that??  I'm talking about ground support for the hurricane victims a definition of nationalism that doesn't include the false association with racism.



See how that works...

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 09:33:56


073532232435221D31223B500 wrote:
No, that's not at all what I mean.  How can you not understand that??  I'm talking about ground support for the hurricane victims a definition of nationalism that doesn't include the false association with racism.



See how that works...


Yeah, but too bad the definition of nationalism isn't flexible.

He's just an idiot.

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by WebsterMark on 10/26/18 at 09:52:14

Yeah, but too bad the definition of nationalism isn't flexible.

He's just an idiot


It absolutely is flexible. I know exactly what he meant and so do you.

And ironic that you are arguing about the definition of nationalism when historical definitions do not include racism. That's a leftist invention. You've added a meaning to it because it suits you. When Obama was talking about the need for immigration control, using the exact same phrases Trump uses, he was being nationalistic. You simply removed your additional aspect of racism to what Obama was saying.

“We are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States,” “But those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law.”

“We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants into this country.”

Definition below.
na·tion·al·ism.

[ch712]naSH([ch601])n[ch601][ch716]liz[ch601]m]

NOUN
identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

"their nationalism is tempered by a desire to join the European Union"

•advocacy of or support for the political independence of a particular nation or people.

But it's Friday and I'm done working for the day. You've already given me my laugh with the idea Trump should have stopped the hurricanes with a wave of his hand. Maybe a wave of his hair would have done it.....


Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by raydawg on 10/26/18 at 10:34:05

Web, your post about how we perceive and interpret words, their meaning,
Can be subjective too, even with your exampling using the dictionary.....
Folks will disregard that fact, truth, of accepted use, and opt out and use their own interpretations, hoping to justify their own wants, need, and actions....
Absolving themselves, allowing them to live in denial, for the truth scares them.

Using what I just shared, maybe, it’s just possible, the folks on the right “interpreted” the “giant blue wave” as a prediction of destruction to their conservative beliefs, ideas, way of living, etc....
When in fact these media journalists at CNN, etc, were forecasting how many, many liberals will feel, after the votes are tallied, and just like how we witnessed the libs after Trump was declared the WINNER, their thinking and lives turned down the roads leading to depression, loath, and fear....

Well.....what do you think?

Title: Re: migrant caravan
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/18 at 10:40:58


457770616677605F736079120 wrote:
Yeah, but too bad the definition of nationalism isn't flexible.

He's just an idiot


It absolutely is flexible. I know exactly what he meant and so do you.

No, I don't.  He's a moron that talks and never thinks.

And ironic that you are arguing about the definition of nationalism when historical definitions do not include racism.

That's another thing - when/where did I ever equate the two?

That's a leftist invention. You've added a meaning to it because it suits you. When Obama was talking about the need for immigration control, using the exact same phrases Trump uses, he was being nationalistic. You simply removed your additional aspect of racism to what Obama was saying.

You have no idea what I said about immigration under Obama - I wasn't anywhere near this forum then.

Stop trying to dictate your beliefs onto me.  You simply don't know me mark - and you never will.

“We are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States,” “But those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law.”

“We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants into this country.”

I have no problem with that.  Now you show me where I disagree with it...

Definition below.
na·tion·al·ism.

[ch712]naSH([ch601])n[ch601][ch716]liz[ch601]m]

NOUN
identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

"their nationalism is tempered by a desire to join the European Union"

•advocacy of or support for the political independence of a particular nation or people.

But it's Friday and I'm done working for the day. You've already given me my laugh with the idea Trump should have stopped the hurricanes with a wave of his hand. Maybe a wave of his hair would have done it.....

Yeah, that's what I mean mark - that he could have stopped the hurricane.<<<sarcasm

Funny, I didn't take you for a willfully ignorant person...

My mistake.

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