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Title: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/28/18 at 10:44:46 Given this last week's horrific happenings, I think we all need to reflect on the realities of where we're at - both as a country and individually. Individually, I think it's obvious. Anyone can see that things are not going in the right direction. With the mail bombs, the synagogue shooting and the basically unreported Kroger shooter - we're at a low point. There seems to be more division than ever. trump supporters are now doubting the legitimacy of everyone except trump. Several were interviewed at a trump rally after the bomber was captured and still didn't believe he was guilty. They commented that he may have been paid by the left wing - or that it's "fake news". Look how far we've fallen.. But as a country, there seems to be an awakening. People, as a whole, are now seeing the harsh reality of what their complacency has done. It's brought us to where we are today. For some time now, we've forgotten how far we'd come - past the bigotry, hate and isolationism. We're at a turning point. For better or worse, our country is more informed than at any time in its history. But like the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." With the explosion of social media and the sheer volume of information hitting everyone in their waking life, far too many have tuned it out. Conversely, just as many have woven a cocoon for themselves and filled their life with positive affirmations of their own views. They know they're right because "everyone" thinks like they do. Fortunately, from what I've been seeing, that's beginning to change. Many are realizing that the truth is simply the truth. It's obvious to everyone that the hate in our country is responsible for the terror this week. It's not "fake news". It's real - almost too real. Now, credit where credit is due. ray called me out on another thread about how I've "come unhinged". He's not entirely wrong in assuming that. But it's not "coming unhinged" - it's me hammering the fact (even harder) that hypocrisy is probably the biggest problem we face in this country. Hate is hate, bigotry is bigotry - there are no "good terrorists". I have never condoned violence in any situation, nor will I ever defend it. None of us can. But I've seen far too much complacency towards it on this forum, and yes, it gets a little frustrating. That's on me and no one else. I'm happy to own up to it. I just did. I would hope that others do the same. (and let's keep it real, we're talking about 8 or 10 people in total that do any kind of regular posting...) So, after all this ranting, I'll finish it with a little thought experiment. I'm sure you're all familiar with "It's a Wonderful Life". When it first came out it wasn't really a hit. I think I read somewhere that it was one of Frank Capra's least popular movies upon release. But it didn't remain a sleeper. As time went by, the story and the message caught on - and it's easy to see why. Think about the story. Think about the characters. Think about why it speaks to so many people and is more popular today than ever. I think sometimes we all forget how hard George works. We know how he feels when he feels "left behind" by the likes of his friend Sam. Like George, we forget what's really important in life. Only after he sees an alternate reality does he come to appreciate and fight for his existence. I think that's appropriate for where we're at now. We can see the "warped, frustrated old man," and see that what he's trying to do to our lives. George saw that no matter what, Mr. Potter couldn't take away his happiness. We as a country are seeing that - we are better as a people, than our president is as an individual. He can't change us. We are better than that. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by MnSpring on 10/28/18 at 12:00:38 Who wrote that ? It most certainly was not you. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by thumperclone on 10/28/18 at 12:28:21 6F4C7152504B4C45220 wrote:
you certainly missed the point no matter the author |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by MnSpring on 10/28/18 at 14:55:35 564A574F524750414E4D4C47220 wrote:
The reason I asked, is the statement: "...Many are realizing that the truth is simply the truth. ..." Which cannot be tt saying that. Because tt, numerous times, (no, it would be, EVERY time) has simply refused to accept the, TRUTH. So it just cannot be tt. Well, Unless, tt means , EVERYBODY ELSE, should accept, His/Her, Truth ! |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by thumperclone on 10/28/18 at 14:57:27 let it go peace be with you |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by MnSpring on 10/28/18 at 15:27:48 584459415C495E4F404342492C0 wrote:
So, the tt, can LIE through his/her teeth, constantly and continuity. Spin, all the time. And call anyone else, whatever names tt want's to. Then, post a, 'statement', (Read it very carefully) about how people, are to believe, tt. Yet I, am suppose to kiss his/her azz. (because you said so) Guess what, Ain't gonna Happen. Clone, perhaps you need to join Bot, in counting how many times you can pet a Rattle Snake, before it bits you. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by thumperclone on 10/28/18 at 18:50:58 quit pickin scabs they'll fester peace be with you |
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Title: Trump the blip we had to have. Post by eau de sauvage on 10/28/18 at 23:11:48 Sorry to burst your Rainbow Unicorn Cocaine bubble, but that was not a thought experiment. A thought experiment is an actual experiment that could in principle be done in real life but for all practical concerns cannot be done. TT, I hear you but you are not looking at the big picture. You can't see the forest for the trees, much less can you see further. This is why as an example climate change micro analysis is pointless, it's a long game, the real effects of what humans are doing to the only planet. It is unlikely (although we can never say never) that humans will find another planet to colonise, much less actually establish a viable colony. I don't want to argue this point because that would be pointless. Now the point that I actually would like to get across to you is that if you step back a bit, you will see that Brexit, Donald Trump, Erdogan, ect, are a necessary evil. There will be a correction. I see a much bigger picture still, I see the disenfranchisement and infantilisation of women as the only real problem facing the world because that is the a much more fundamental problem. Remember Koyaanisqatsi, the world is out of balance. Trump is a necessary evil, a cartoon villain, we need this sort of exaggerated personification of everything that is wrong with the world to wake up. This is why David Lynch recently said that Trump is the best thing that has happened to America. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/david-lynch-trump-twin-peaks-greatest-presidents-room-to-dream-a8416486.html https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/26/trump-david-lynch-career-over-praise-presidency Laughably Trump didn't see this, he just saw that he was called the greatest president and stopped reading and even if he kept reading he doesn't have the intellectual capacity to understand. So chill out TT and remember like the stock market there are always bumps, and Trump is the blip we had to have. Not to be confused with the inflatable baby Trump, which was the blimp we had to have. Have a listen to this TT, it's Alan Watts, I think you will enjoy it... https://youtu.be/26971uJuQuk |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 05:46:23 Individually, I think it's obvious. Anyone can see that things are not going in the right direction. With the mail bombs, the synagogue shooting and the basically unreported Kroger shooter - we're at a low point. There seems to be more division than ever. trump supporters are now doubting the legitimacy of everyone except trump. Mail bombs, synagogue and Kroger shooting....and now we're at the low point?!!! Where were you when Congressman were shot on a ball field? Where were you when supporters of a Presidential candidate were being physically attacked? The division is because for the first time, the peaceful transition of political power from one party to the next didn't occur. You TT and your party refuse to accept the results of the last election. The MSM which has gone all in for one side refuses to accept the results. Here's the deal, wars continue and tensions erupt until one side admits defeat and begins rebuilding. The Democrats lost. You lost the heart of America and instead of acknowledging that, you've decided to punish the voters by calling them every vile name you can think of. You are hypocrisy personified. This is what you don't get, what you can't see. George Bailey is a modern day Republican. Conservative, patriotic, God fearing. You think George Bailey is going to scream and play dead so police can drag him out at a Supreme Court nomination hearing? You think George Bailey is going to chase Ted Cruz and his wife put of a restaurant? He would no more support a loon like Warren or Harris or Booker than the man on the moon. You lost the heart of America. Listen to what they're saying or keep losing. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by raydawg on 10/29/18 at 06:07:18 Have a listen to this TT, it's Alan Watts, I think you will enjoy it.. Ah.....a different prophet. Funny, a necessary evil is needed, yet it seems all you do by coming here, is to fight against what you preach...... Why do you not accept it, if its needed? What is your end game, annihilation of all who believe, and act against your prophecies? Seems like this story has a familiar ring to it? Why do you instruct TT, yet allow yourself to swim in the toxic pool of anger? |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 07:00:39 05261B383A21262F480 wrote:
Until you start posting like an adult - I really don't care what you believe. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 07:08:34 625057464150477854475E350 wrote:
"George Bailey is a modern day Republican" Wow... just wow.... so that makes Mr. Potter a dem? Too funny mark. Whatever it takes to help you sleep better. George gives charity to the "garlic eaters", he "carelessly" spends money on a long distance call from his brother, He takes the blame when Billy loses the deposit. You can honestly tell yourself that he's a "modern day republican"? I don't think anyone besides you can see that. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 07:09:53 5D4E564B4E58482F0 wrote:
Once again, you're too cowardly to confront me yourself. Sad ray - you're the most childish 65 year old I've ever had the displeasure to know. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 07:33:51 I go back to this: You think George Bailey is going to scream and play dead so police can drag him out at a Supreme Court nomination hearing? You think George Bailey is going to chase Ted Cruz and his wife put of a restaurant? He would no more support a loon like Warren or Harris or Booker than the man on the moon. You were the one who brought up George Bailey. So I ask again, you think that's who he was? You think he'd be okay with his party interrupting a moment of silence like they did in Tennessee at the Republican Senate candidate's meeting? Screaming and fake dying like idiots? This is who you think America is?.... |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 07:54:54 0A383F2E29382F103C2F365D0 wrote:
OK mark, I'll play your game then... you think George would threaten Dr. Ford's life? You think he'd mail bombs to his enemies? You think he'd march in Charlotte with a torch? You think he'd hold a rally and "wish he could punch that guy"? You think he'd run as a nazi in Illinois? Yeah, you use the worst examples of those on the extreme left - then I do the same with the right. Nice try, but it don't fly. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 08:18:06 The difference is you're okay with destroying Kavanaugh based on no evidence. You're okay with chasing Cruz and his wife out of a restaurant. You call that protesting. You're okay with fake die ins. You're okay with what went on in Tennessee last night. You keep bring up that Nazi guy but you claim to be Mr. Hypocrisy guy right? Are you okay with one of your candidate's saying this? Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel. #Gaza #Palestine #Israel The Nazi you refer to has been disowned by the Republican party and has zero chance of winning. Zero. You keep bringing him up as the ultimate red herring. However, the woman who wrote the anti-Semitic quote above in 2012 is fully supported by the Democratic Party (you) and almost certainly going to win. Look at some of her quotes and replace the word Israel or Jew with black and tell me she wouldn't get run out of town. Below is her response to someone who objected to her position. First off; using the phrase apartheid and Israeli regime in the same sentence is concerning enough, but imagine for a moment she was a conservative Republican talking about BLM and said 'I pray to God you get the help..... Drawing attention to the apartheid Israeli regime is far from hating Jews. You are a hateful sad man, I pray to Allah you get the help you need and find happiness. Come on Mr. Hypocrisy..... |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 08:38:44 516364757263744B67746D060 wrote:
She prays to Allah - so? Have you seen what's happened in the Middle East? You think Israel is innocent in all this? Educated yourself on this mark. There is a perverse relationship to the US and Israel. It's not a healthy one at all and is based, in part, on the Bible. But to get back to the original post - the above response from you is typical. You tell me that George Bailey is a "modern day republican" and I counter with the same type of republican extremism that you convey and suddenly you switch gears. Your frame of reference is off. When are you and your cohorts going to see that the far left extremists are just that - far left extremists and don't represent the majority of the democratic party? If you all continue to do this, we'll have no choice but to conclude that all republicans believe in everything the right wing extremists do. It's your choice. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 08:57:16 You're okay with chasing Cruz and his wife out of a restaurant. ted cruz pretty much deserves what he gets. Again, the majority of America doesn't see it that way. That's why you are not existing in reality. You call that protesting. You're okay with fake die ins. You're okay with what went on in Tennessee last night. I'm cool with the First Amendment. As usual, you didn't really answer. Again, you are okay with that. That makes you, as Claire McCaskill said, one of the crazy Democrats. The Nazi you refer to has been disowned by the Republican party and has zero chance of winning. Zero. You keep bringing him up as the ultimate red herring. Yet, he identifies as republican as do the kkk, the white nationalists and several other racist hate groups. So what? That means nothing. So you get stuck with anyone identifying as a Democrat? Is that what you want? No. Come on Mr. Hypocrisy..... She prays to Allah - so? Have you seen what's happened in the Middle East? You think Israel is innocent in all this? Educated yourself on this mark. There is a perverse relationship to the US and Israel. It's not a healthy one at all and is based, in part, on the Bible. If I said a comparable comment let's say about the black community self destructing and them not being innocent in the plague of black on black crime, you'd call me a racist. So you're cool with me calling you anti-Semitic and by default, condoning the shooting in Pittsburg, right? See what happens when you think you're Mr. Hypocrisy but you're stuck in an alternate reality? You get backed into corners so you're only option is to ignore charges against you. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by raydawg on 10/29/18 at 08:57:33 6D737C7D706D766B190 wrote:
Once again, you're too cowardly to confront me yourself. Sad ray - you're the most childish 65 year old I've ever had the displeasure to know. [/quote] Weird, your ego is even greater than your ignorance. What makes you think my reply was even generated toward you? It’s not. It was eau de savage. You do not have to reply to anything I post... Do me the favor |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 08:59:21 You do not have to reply to anything I post... Do me the favor What Ray? You don't want to hear what George Bailey has to say?!!!! |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 09:04:05 Hey look! There's George Bailey interrupting a moment of silence for the Pittsburg shooting. Yea that old Georgie Porgie sure is a typical Democrat ain't he?..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDFTL0bWIXo |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 09:07:22 11021A07021404630 wrote:
Once again, you're too cowardly to confront me yourself. Sad ray - you're the most childish 65 year old I've ever had the displeasure to know. [/quote] Weird, your ego is even greater than your ignorance. What makes you think my reply was even generated toward you? It’s not. It was eau de savage. You do not have to reply to anything I post... Do me the favor [/quote] Are you telling me not to reply to any of your posts? If not, then I'll reply to anything I want. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 09:09:32 605255444352457A56455C370 wrote:
mark - you bring this on yourself. If George were a real person, he'd be a democrat. Of that, there is no question. He is at his heart, non-conservative. The guy that reflects a conservative/republican viewpoint is Mr. Potter. Everyone in the world can see that except you. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by Serowbot on 10/29/18 at 09:13:08 From Snopes... Quote:
You call that a lie?... :-? I used to think my great-granfather died at Verdun in WWI... He died at the Somme... I wasn't lying,.. I was mistaken. Big difference. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 09:25:18 You call that a lie?... Huh I used to think my great-granfather died at Verdun in WWI... He died at the Somme... I wasn't lying,.. I was mistaken. Big difference. Back to top No, I'm not calling that a lie. I'm calling it what it is, a mistake. I'm sure he wasn't thinking about it. It was something his family had always told him so he repeated it. I'm sure if you could talk to Obama and said it couldn't have been that camp because that was liberated by the Russians, it was a different one, he'd say 'oh, you're right. My bad. We should have realized that." And that would be the end of it. No big deal. (Which by the way is what Pocahontas should have done when she figured out she wasn't an Indian. but she doubled down and got caught.) I was simply pointing out this to Mr. Hypocrisy. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 09:29:43 mark - you bring this on yourself. If George were a real person, he'd be a democrat. Of that, there is no question. He is at his heart, non-conservative. The guy that reflects a conservative/republican viewpoint is Mr. Potter. Everyone in the world can see that except you. No, that's my point. Everyone can see the opposite except you. The heartland passed judgement on you in 2016 and they're going to pass judgement on you next week. You've lost the war but you refuse to admit it. You are not George Bailey, I am closer to George. I am not Potter, but neither are you. You are the mean bartender. You are the down and out cab driver. Potter is George Soros. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 09:47:09 754740515647506F435049220 wrote:
Again, 3 million FEWER voted for trump... but that's fine. You want to think that a majority is opposed to my viewpoint, that's your opinion. You're entitled to it. Everyone else can see that it's incorrect. You ask anyone on the street - What kind of politician would George Bailey make, a conservative or a liberal? Most, if not all would say liberal. If you think otherwise, you're in deep denial. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 10:17:20 You ask anyone on the street - What kind of politician would George Bailey make, a conservative or a liberal? Most, if not all would say liberal. Certainly if you ask those 3 million more idiots, they would! Most people on the street can't name their senator. Most people would say if JFK were alive today, his policies would make him a Republican. So it is with George Bailey. Again, if you think Bailey would chase Cruz out of a restaurant, you're more foolish that I thought. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by raydawg on 10/29/18 at 11:17:28 637D72737E637865170 wrote:
Once again, you're too cowardly to confront me yourself. Sad ray - you're the most childish 65 year old I've ever had the displeasure to know. [/quote] Weird, your ego is even greater than your ignorance. What makes you think my reply was even generated toward you? It’s not. It was eau de savage. You do not have to reply to anything I post... Do me the favor [/quote] Are you telling me not to reply to any of your posts? If not, then I'll reply to anything I want. [/quote] And you call me childish..... Here, since, for whatever reason, you appear to not be able to comprehend my postings, YET, feel the need to reply, which just goes against rational thinking/reasoning...... Assigning me all sorts of projections, based of that which makes no sense to you...... Seems CRAZY on its face. So, I think a "sane" person might just say, "Phfft" why even try to dialogue with a childish, rambling, lying, etc idiot (me) as its futile.... SO......I was giving you permission to do that, and save you the frustration, or whatever it is your experience, in dealing with folks of lessor, and inferior, to that which you hold yourself...... I will survive, somehow. ::) |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by MShipley on 10/29/18 at 13:42:03 TT said: Your frame of reference is off. When are you and your cohorts going to see that the far left extremists are just that - far left extremists and don't represent the majority of the democratic party? Come on TT, when are you going to realize the same thing? |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 14:02:51 635156474051467955465F340 wrote:
Look up - the point is way over your head mark. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 14:04:34 796A726F6A7C6C0B0 wrote:
As will I. Not only survive, but thrive. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 14:15:06 617F44455C4049552C0 wrote:
Well m, I only retort with the same rhetoric that's thrown at me. The times I've posted about the kkk or the nazi's or some other right wing group, I'm basically looking for condemnation from the conservatives on here. I rarely get it. I get "Oh yeah, what about ANTIFA?" "What about BLM?" "What about......?" Every single time I've responded to them. Those groups are not a representation of the majority of the democrats. So, I don't know what to tell you. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by Serowbot on 10/29/18 at 14:23:08 A 1947 FBI memo (pdf, pg. 14) indicated concern that the screenwriters were closet Communists and that the portrayal of bankers and rich people was highly suspect. https://ia801003.us.archive.org/29/items/FBI_File_Communist_Infiltration_Motion_Picture_Industry_COMPIC_ALL_EXCERPTS/compic9a.pdf If the FBI was investigating the writers for writing communist propaganda, George Bailey could hardly be construed as a Republican. MIKE DROP!... ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 14:30:48 6C7A6D70687D706B1F0 wrote:
AWE-SOME!! |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 15:34:09 MIKE DROP!... Grin Grin Grin and bounces back up and hits you on the head as that's meaningless. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 15:37:39 Worth a repost: The heartland passed judgement on you in 2016 and they're going to pass judgement on you next week. You've lost the war but you refuse to admit it. You are not George Bailey, I am closer to George. I am not Potter, but neither are you. You are the mean bartender. You are the down and out cab driver. Potter is George Soros. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 15:41:39 7E4C4B5A5D4C5B64485B42290 wrote:
Again, 3 million FEWER voted for trump... but that's fine. You want to think that a majority is opposed to my viewpoint, that's your opinion. You're entitled to it. Everyone else can see that it's incorrect. You ask anyone on the street - What kind of politician would George Bailey make, a conservative or a liberal? Most, if not all would say liberal. If you think otherwise, you're in deep denial. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by LostArtist on 10/29/18 at 16:14:40 so, wow one person reaches out and the rest of you attack him... can none of you let the hate behind and move forward in peace? it's never enough for some of you and that's why it never happens, you'll only accept unconditional surrender if not total decimation of your enemies... and you can see who's who on this thread, the same that have NEVER honestly wanted civility in discussion on this board we try, you attack, you on the right, the might makes right attitude, and you wonder why Clinton says there's no civility until you are defeated (via voting, not violence) what a waste of pixels |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by eau de sauvage on 10/29/18 at 17:11:41 796A726F6A7C6C0B0 wrote:
Ray, can you please explain to me why you find it necessary to turn a post that is not addressed to you, and not only that but directly addresses the point of the op, and further contains nothing contentious, into a personal attack of the most puerile idiocy, "ah another prophet". Why don't you do something more useful like fcuk yourself with the rough end of a pineapple. |
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Title: Re: Trump the blip we had to have. Post by MnSpring on 10/29/18 at 17:49:24 3E2C383B2C2A284D0 wrote:
Who's 'bubble' are you, 'bursting' ? |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 19:42:37 You ask anyone on the street - What kind of politician would George Bailey make, a conservative or a liberal? Most, if not all would say liberal. If you think otherwise, you're in deep denial. Oh, I agree. Most would. But as you pointed out, 3 million more people voted for the wicked witch of Arkansas so anything's possible. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 19:45:42 one person reaches out and the rest of you attack him... can none of you let the hate behind and move forward in peace? TT ain't reaching out to anyone. And he was motivated totally by hatred when he wrote that stupid post so wake up Lost. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by LostArtist on 10/30/18 at 05:44:53 1D2F28393E2F38072B38214A0 wrote:
the only hatred I see is from your side |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/18 at 05:47:21 That's because you can only look in one direction. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by LostArtist on 10/30/18 at 06:05:21 714344555243546B47544D260 wrote:
keep telling yourself that if that's what works for you, I used to think you were one of the reasonable ones I could have a discussion with, but now, you've been exposed as the partisan you've always been I mean, come on, are you blind??? TT posts this thread, saying hey, let's take some time to reflect, here's some thoughts, not attacking any side.... not really, and MNSprings comment is, not disagreeing with the actual post, but BASHING THAT IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN TT, an ad hominem attack, not on the issues raised in the post but against TT from past baggage they have. it's impossible to heal a relationship when ONE side is constantly berating the other and giving them no ability to move past the past. This is YOUR SIDE's speciality with all the whataboutisms and dragging up the past from the 1900s with the KKK being democrat for pete's sake... the rest of us have moved on, we've acknowledged our past misgivings and are trying to deal with issues TODAY, but you can't help but bring up past issues, you aren't ready to move forward together have you learned nothing from Romeo and Juliet.... let the hate go, it'll only destroy both families. oh and since you seem to have forgotten, after the baseball shootings and connections were made with Bernie, Bernie made a statement on the floor of the congress condemning that violence, but that's not enough for you... so why should the President's remarks be good enough for us? especially when he then tweets out about it being fake news' fault.. so yeah, both conservative and liberal media stoke the fires to get views and ratings.... but TT was addressing US here, can we not together move past that? but if you want to cling to your "lefties are the violent ones" diatribe, then this will be my last response to anything you have to say, (I hope anyway, but you have proven to be surprising before ... ) |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/18 at 07:19:21 5F6D6A7B7C6D7A45697A63080 wrote:
Why is it mark, that you think you know me personally? Why do you feel the need to express that? I know what kind of person you are, but I don't claim to know what you're thinking when you post something. So, the next time you feel that need - do it the proper way. Here's an example: "TT ain't reaching out to anyone. I think he was motivated totally by hatred when he wrote that stupid post... It's clear you have a lot of control issues mark - don't try and bring them here. We've got enough going on. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/18 at 07:24:01 then this will be my last response to anything you have to say That pledge will last one day at most because yes, leftist are far more violent. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/18 at 07:27:52 Why is it mark, that you think you know me personally? Why do you feel the need to express that? I know what kind of person you are, but I don't claim to know what you're thinking when you post something. So, the next time you feel that need - do it the proper way. Here's an example: "TT ain't reaching out to anyone. I think he was motivated totally by hatred when he wrote that stupid post... It's clear you have a lot of control issues mark - don't try and bring them here. We've got enough going on. Don't get all flustered because I've got you pegged correctly. You hate Trump, you hate me, you hate the 'middle American values' that voted for Trump. So you came up with a stupid analogy about George Bailey that displayed how blind you are to reality. Just like you saying for the last two years Trump was finished tomorrow. Always tomorrow, but tomorrow never came. At least you've learned enough not to predict a Blue Wave next week. I'll give you credit for growing up a bit these past couple years. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/18 at 07:30:16 You still have no clue mark. You're only showing your control issues, not quantifying me. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/18 at 08:54:51 I don't know where you get the control issues thing. You've never said that before. Did you read a new article last night or something? what does control issue even mean in this context? |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/18 at 09:02:12 5F6D6A7B7C6D7A45697A63080 wrote:
No. I'm just seeing it more every day that it's very, very important to you to quantify me. "He said it out of hate" is an absolute. Not just an opinion. You seem to actually need to. Perhaps it's a coping mechanism that you've developed? I'm not sure. But it's rearing its ugly head more and more. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/18 at 10:47:50 More every day? Really? Huh....didn't notice. I find you interesting. I don't know anyone like you in the real world while I run into people like me every day. I know this isn't true based on some things you have said that clearly give away your age, but other than that, I'd swear you were a 15 year old kid just always taking the stupid position just to start an argument. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by Eegore on 10/30/18 at 10:52:25 Maybe if you guys cared more about the topic and less about each other. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/18 at 11:02:25 436361697463060 wrote:
True Eegore. Good point. I'd like to think I do. I may even do some digging to see where this money came from. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/18 at 11:46:01 What topic? That TT thinks he's George Bailey? |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/18 at 11:55:58 I strive to be George Bailey. We all should. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/18 at 12:37:08 Then vote Republican..... |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/18 at 13:37:16 162423323524330C20332A410 wrote:
Not this current drop of republicans. I voted for rauner and that went nowhere. I would have voted for Kasich, but he was "too moderate" for the bubs. The republican party of today is going nowhere until they get trump and his ilk off the ticket. However, I do find it amusing that you think George Bailey would be a republican! (maybe back in his day, but not today) |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by LostArtist on 10/30/18 at 15:26:08 7555575F4255300 wrote:
if only.... one can dream I guess |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by LostArtist on 10/30/18 at 15:31:18 093B3C2D2A3B2C133F2C355E0 wrote:
going to get that tattooed on your butt?? might as well cause at least it'll be in the company of the rest of the sh*t you talk (aka, you're talking out of your butt again) it's been studied, right wingers are actually more violent, lefties might protest more, but you all actually commit WAY more violence, but you don't actually believe in facts do you? |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by eau de sauvage on 10/30/18 at 17:25:07 6B4B49415C4B2E0 wrote:
He Eegore, I addressed the topic which you have not responded to so what difference does it make to you if they attack each other. Just sayin' |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by MnSpring on 10/31/18 at 08:22:57 41534744535557320 wrote:
As you ask someone else, I ask you, why you have not stated, who you are referring to when you said: eau de sauvage wrote on Oct 29th, 2018, 1:11am: Sorry to burst your Rainbow Unicorn Cocaine bubble, I will ask again: Who's 'bubble' are you, 'bursting' ? |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by Eegore on 10/31/18 at 08:47:52 "He Eegore, I addressed the topic which you have not responded to so what difference does it make to you if they attack each other. Just sayin'" None. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by Eegore on 10/31/18 at 08:56:03 As you ask someone else, I ask you, why you have not stated, who you are referring to when you said: "Sounds like, ‘anti-gun’, people are making the decisions." This is regarding a transcript where more people were in favor of carrying firearms on-property. I will ask again: Why was the pro-gun section left out of the evaluation? |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by MnSpring on 10/31/18 at 09:14:07 7A5A58504D5A3F0 wrote:
So I am to say: 'Sounds like the Pro-Gun peoples opinion, was overruled by the anti-gun people' I believe it would be the same as saying: 'why are ‘anti-gun’, people are making the decisions, when the transcripts say the pro-gun people, are in the Majority ?' |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by Eegore on 10/31/18 at 10:09:10 "'why are ‘anti-gun’, people are making the decisions, when the transcripts say the pro-gun people, are in the Majority ?'" Pro-gun people did make the decision. That is also very clear in the transcript. Pro-gun when asked Yes or No, said Yes. That was their decision, and the reason, which was made clear in the very first post, and multiple afterward, are being ignored for some reason. Thank you however for finally answering the question. |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by MnSpring on 10/31/18 at 18:21:15 5070727A6770150 wrote:
Say their are 12 people to make a decision. 4 are Anti, and 8 are Pro. Yet when it come times to vote, the Pro vote Anti ? (They did NOT change their mind, they just voted, Pro) Why ? Could it possibly be that the, anti, 4, have the power to determine who, cleans out bed pans, and who gets to walk the hall with a clipboard ? Or who gets extra hours and who does not ? Or who works nights, weekends, and Holidays, and who does not ? Or who gets a black mark , and who gets a gold star in their file ? Ya think that could have anything to do with how they voted ????? (Internal, 'lick the correct butt' politics, will NEVER be reflected in a transcript) |
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Title: Re: Thought Experiment Post by Eegore on 10/31/18 at 21:48:58 "Or who gets extra hours and who does not ? Or who works nights, weekends, and Holidays, and who does not ? Or who gets a black mark , and who gets a gold star in their file ? No. These are facility administrators, not employees, there is no situation where any of the people present are subordinates of another. "They did NOT change their mind, they just voted, Pro) Why ?" The answer has been indicated many, many times over but you refuse to acknowledge it. Lawsuit mitigation. Mitigation of lawsuits, that happen regularly. Legal protection. That's why. You are literally fabricating scenarios in an attempt to not acknowledge that the decision was based exclusively off of lawsuit mitigation. Not everyone that is pro-gun is willing to bankrupt their company so they can carry a gun to work. Not every person who chooses to leave a gun at home does so out of fear, coercion, or concern of retaliation, some people just value their career more than their guns at work. I don't know why it is so important to create scenarios that never existed, but since I foresaw this I will once again offer you the opportunity to be in contact with each of these people personally to verify. They can, and are willing to tell you personally, without my involvement, that they were present at that meeting and why they made the decision. |
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