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Title: Why....? Post by raydawg on 10/29/18 at 14:04:49 Just simply tell me, why, thanxs. Why is it when 11 people get killed, it’s 24/7 news coverage.... Endless resources spent of finding out why. Endless outpouring of prayer and comforting. Miles of ink used in printing headlines, for days.... YET, How many YOUNG Blackmen have been killed in and around Chicago this year ALONE, and yet, we don’t talk about it. Please, tell me, what makes one death at the hands of another, more worthy of our attention?

Title: Re: Why....? Post by Serowbot on 10/29/18 at 14:07:17 Black lives matter... It is talked about in most media,... just not Faux News (other than to be snide)...

Title: Re: Why....? Post by T And T Garage on 10/29/18 at 14:27:32 2C3F273A3F29395E0 wrote: Just simply tell me, why, thanxs. Why is it when 11 people get killed, it’s 24/7 news coverage.... Endless resources spent of finding out why. Endless outpouring of prayer and comforting. Miles of ink used in printing headlines, for days.... YET, How many YOUNG Blackmen have been killed in and around Chicago this year ALONE, and yet, we don’t talk about it. Please, tell me, what makes one death at the hands of another, more worthy of our attention? You already know the answer ray. It's headlines and ad space. A mass shooting has more interest built into it than a one off in NYC or any other big city. The media in general does not exist to merely inform, it needs to turn a profit.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 15:38:30 2B3D2A372F3A372C580 wrote: Black lives matter... It is talked about in most media,... just not Faux News (other than to be snide)... Yea, that's bull$hit.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/18 at 15:40:46 Please, tell me, what makes one death at the hands of another, more worthy of our attention? Because one happens every night and the other doesn't. Because the reason why one happens nightly is complicated and involves serious questions and the other one is easily understood.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by LostArtist on 10/29/18 at 16:25:40 665453424554437C50435A310 wrote: Please, tell me, what makes one death at the hands of another, more worthy of our attention? Because one happens every night and the other doesn't. true Because the reason why one happens nightly is complicated and involves serious questions and the other one is easily understood. um, no, both are the same reason, hatred and tribalism. one side feels/felt wronged by the other.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by Eegore on 10/30/18 at 05:43:30  I agree with the above posts, Media profit, and frequency.  If a mass shooting happened every 13 seconds it would get less news coverage.   "Please, tell me, what makes one death at the hands of another, more worthy of our attention?"  I'm not sure that question can be applied equally.  For instance if someone kills a black teenager in Chicago, someone else kills your neighbor, and another your wife are you going to spend the same amount of energy assisting law enforcement for each murder?    We all experience this level of interest based off of personal application to the event.  All murder may be equal, but we don't have the time to commit equal interest to all.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by raydawg on 10/30/18 at 05:56:41 Well interesting, we got two media profits..... Which says to me, its not about the truth, can't be, no such thing as sorta pregnant. So Trump is not far off when he says a bias media, because the liberal media markets to it buyers, as does FOX..... Then the Black kids welfare, in Chicago, bringing to to the forefront, hammering this everyday like the caravan, or other stories that cater to their consumers/buyers, is not really about social welfare, as its packaged, no, its about paycheck. Seems a bit disingenuous for folks who preach they care, but in reality, they do, but its more about themselves, than what they portend. Again, kinda like that Jimmie Swaggert, or other evangelist preachers talking about our sin, yet engaging in their own, the moment the pews empty.... Thanks guys for the clarification, kinda explains why lots of folks are fed up with the lies.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/18 at 07:13:41 50435B46435545220 wrote: Well interesting, we got two media profits..... Which says to me, its not about the truth, can't be, no such thing as sorta pregnant. So Trump is not far off when he says a bias media, because the liberal media markets to it buyers, as does FOX..... Then the Black kids welfare, in Chicago, bringing to to the forefront, hammering this everyday like the caravan, or other stories that cater to their consumers/buyers, is not really about social welfare, as its packaged, no, its about paycheck. Seems a bit disingenuous for folks who preach they care, but in reality, they do, but its more about themselves, than what they portend. Again, kinda like that Jimmie Swaggert, or other evangelist preachers talking about our sin, yet engaging in their own, the moment the pews empty.... Thanks guys for the clarification, kinda explains why lots of folks are fed up with the lies. Way off ray.  Now you're hijacking your own thread because you don't like the direction... You asked "Why is it when 11 people get killed, it’s 24/7 news coverage...." Now you're talking about trump's "fake news"? Not the same at all.  Yes, there is sensationalism in the media - duh.. But the truth, far more often than not, gets reported.  It's not the media's fault that idiots like trump are who they are. No one is hacking his twitter feed.  No one is impersonating him at the podium off prompter.  The truth is - just look at where the country is at this point.  You want to tell me he's made things better?  Ha!  Not even close.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by Eegore on 10/30/18 at 07:22:47 "Which says to me, its not about the truth, can't be, no such thing as sorta pregnant."  I don't think its a requirement to lie to be profitable.  Media coverage of an event can be truthful, but the priority in which one presents can be profit based.  For instance nightly local news typically does sports and weather last in the broadcast as they are the content people typically tune ion nightly to see.  As such does that make the local news less trustworthy since the format is to increase profitability by maintaining longer duration of viewing times by placing the most desired content last in the program?  Does that make their weather less accurate, their sports scores less accurate or their local news reports less accurate?

Title: Re: Why....? Post by T And T Garage on 10/30/18 at 07:28:27 123230382532570 wrote: "Which says to me, its not about the truth, can't be, no such thing as sorta pregnant."  I don't think its a requirement to lie to be profitable.  Media coverage of an event can be truthful, but the priority in which one presents can be profit based.  For instance nightly local news typically does sports and weather last in the broadcast as they are the content people typically tune ion nightly to see.  As such does that make the local news less trustworthy since the format is to increase profitability by maintaining longer duration of viewing times by placing the most desired content last in the program?  Does that make their weather less accurate, their sports scores less accurate or their local news reports less accurate?   Amen Eegore.  Well put as always.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/30/18 at 07:47:27 I don't think its a requirement to lie to be profitable. But it's been a proven a answer to falling profit. Print media is dying. I'm surprised that T.V.broadcast news isn't falling off at the same rate. As the public ages, I expect that to happen.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by Eegore on 10/30/18 at 08:23:19  I think its because a lot of TV broadcast news is streamed online.  I watch/listen a lot of news on the road on an iPod, something print news can't do, or at least didn't do when it came to digital e-readers.  Of course e-readers are on the way out too.  I do think standard, or local broadcast news in its nightly TV format will be reduced as most youth use social media, apps, YouTube etc. as a source of information.    I have no data or references, this reflects information I have through personal experiences in utilizing news media that when compiled and posted represents my opinion.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/18 at 08:42:18 2707050D1007620 wrote: "Which says to me, its not about the truth, can't be, no such thing as sorta pregnant."  I don't think its a requirement to lie to be profitable.  Media coverage of an event can be truthful, but the priority in which one presents can be profit based.  For instance nightly local news typically does sports and weather last in the broadcast as they are the content people typically tune ion nightly to see.  As such does that make the local news less trustworthy since the format is to increase profitability by maintaining longer duration of viewing times by placing the most desired content last in the program?  Does that make their weather less accurate, their sports scores less accurate or their local news reports less accurate?   Yes, in a way. Our local stations over the years have all developed what they refer to as "Storm Mode" when the weather is particularly bad or dangerous. However, it's become something of a joke because it's become a competition who can go into Storm Mode first hoping to be the one who first predicts and warns of impending danger. They advertise they were the first to accurately predict dangerous ice conditions etc.... however, because the weather is so fickle and difficult to predict, they've been rightly criticized for predicting doom and gloom only to get it dramatically wrong. A big of crying wolf.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by verslagen1 on 10/30/18 at 09:31:30 527270786572170 wrote: "Which says to me, its not about the truth, can't be, no such thing as sorta pregnant."  I don't think its a requirement to lie to be profitable.  Media coverage of an event can be truthful, but the priority in which one presents can be profit based.  For instance nightly local news typically does sports and weather last in the broadcast as they are the content people typically tune ion nightly to see.  As such does that make the local news less trustworthy since the format is to increase profitability by maintaining longer duration of viewing times by placing the most desired content last in the program?  Does that make their weather less accurate, their sports scores less accurate or their local news reports less accurate?   It's not a question whether the news is truthful, but whether it's half truths.  Where is the rest of the story? And what part of the story will each lefty/righty media cover?  The part that sells to their market. Each side lies by omission.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by Eegore on 10/30/18 at 09:47:03 "It's not a question whether the news is truthful, but whether it's half truths.  Where is the rest of the story? And what part of the story will each lefty/righty media cover?  The part that sells to their market. Each side lies by omission. "  Also there is just plain poor reporting and research.  Profitability I believe takes part, as does frequency of events, and customer interaction.  Its hard to pin down any one issue as the whole environment is in a constant state of flux.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/30/18 at 10:14:33 A cnn guy was filmed saying that they were LYING for ratings. Fox is just as bad. If you don't Watch news, you're uninformed. If you do, you're misinformed. Gathering information from various online sources AND WEIGHING THAT INFORMATION against what is actually happening is the only way to even hope to not be a dupe. Not knowing how the international events and political crap really works makes it very difficult. Since it's obviously impossible to call bombing a society into the stone age a Humanitarian Mission, understanding the real motive is pure speculation. But, clearly, humanitarian mission isn't the truth. Yet, every outlet SAID that was the objective. So, they all lie.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by Eegore on 10/30/18 at 10:51:01  Or it was a humanitarian mission.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by MnSpring on 10/30/18 at 11:48:57 “can’t be, no such thing as sorta pregnant." Sure their is ! It’s called Abortion at Any Age. (This drive by brought to you by MINNSINK, a Subsidy of BOT-O-INK)

Title: Re: Why....? Post by LostArtist on 10/30/18 at 12:29:50 19393B332E395C0 wrote: "Which says to me, its not about the truth, can't be, no such thing as sorta pregnant."  I don't think its a requirement to lie to be profitable.  Media coverage of an event can be truthful, but the priority in which one presents can be profit based.  For instance nightly local news typically does sports and weather last in the broadcast as they are the content people typically tune ion nightly to see.  As such does that make the local news less trustworthy since the format is to increase profitability by maintaining longer duration of viewing times by placing the most desired content last in the program?  Does that make their weather less accurate, their sports scores less accurate or their local news reports less accurate?   it's also a tone they sell, just listen to the inflection and the pacing of the words, on the left it's a pretense of snobbery and higher understanding, and sometimes some fear mongering, on the right, it's mostly fear mongering to get everyone all worked up, it's a very drama based presentation for a lot of conservative media, they keep viewers/listeners by keeping them scared and on the edge...    and yeah, with Trump in office, some of that is true with the liberal media too, but that's cause they are reporting and reacting to the scary things Trump is actually tweeting and saying.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by Eegore on 10/30/18 at 12:32:40  I'm not saying that some news content isn't prejudiced or propagandized, what I am saying is that profit doesn't mean that all content is now lies.  I feel that accurate for-profit news exists.    I also feel that inaccurate for-profit news exists.

Title: Re: Why....? Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/18 at 12:36:16 it's also a tone they sell, just listen to the inflection and the pacing of the words, on the left it's a pretense of snobbery and higher understanding, and sometimes some fear mongering, on the right, it's mostly fear mongering to get everyone all worked up, it's a very drama based presentation for a lot of conservative media, they keep viewers/listeners by keeping them scared and on the edge...    and yeah, with Trump in office, some of that is true with the liberal media too, but that's cause they are reporting and reacting to the scary things Trump is actually tweeting and saying. wow......are you living in a different world.....

Title: Re: Why....? Post by raydawg on 10/30/18 at 13:51:12 Yeah, no, I think you guys nailed it, its a BUSINESS first and foremost, and they report what they think their audience will buy..... Sure, its wrapped under the umbrella of providing a needed service, but its all about the power and money..... Look how NBC withheld the testimony about the so called rape allegations against Kavenaugh, that the reported witness never said those things or allegations.... until after the fact. They were in possession of the TRUTH, yet to withhold it BECAUSE their audience was anti Kavenaugh. Thanks guys!

Title: Re: Why....? Post by LostArtist on 10/30/18 at 15:39:05 093B3C2D2A3B2C133F2C355E0 wrote: it's also a tone they sell, just listen to the inflection and the pacing of the words, on the left it's a pretense of snobbery and higher understanding, and sometimes some fear mongering, on the right, it's mostly fear mongering to get everyone all worked up, it's a very drama based presentation for a lot of conservative media, they keep viewers/listeners by keeping them scared and on the edge...    and yeah, with Trump in office, some of that is true with the liberal media too, but that's cause they are reporting and reacting to the scary things Trump is actually tweeting and saying. wow......are you living in a different world..... see, this is how it starts, now I should comment back some smart @ss comment about you, just notice, you didn't actually address ANY OF THE ISSUES brought up in this entire thread, but went straight to attacking me...... your ad hominem attack is completely irrelevant

Title: Re: Why....? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/30/18 at 17:46:48 0424262E3324410 wrote:  Or it was a humanitarian mission. Really? Explain how it's humanitarian to destroy the civilization.

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