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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> How many gun deaths /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1542978874 Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 11/23/18 at 05:14:34 |
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Title: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/23/18 at 05:14:34 Would it take for me to be willing to turn in my gun? I dunno How many rapes would need to happen before you cut off your dikk? |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by thumperclone on 11/23/18 at 07:09:58 a lobotomy would cure that kind of thinking |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Serowbot on 11/23/18 at 07:50:38 A very Freudian comparison.. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/23/18 at 09:25:47 Of course the logical connection escapes those who are brainwashed. Not my gun. Not my dikk. Why should I be punished for the crimes of others? It's almost as if there has already been some lobotomizing going on. Next week Chemistry We'll start with the differences between Carbon DIoxide and Carbon MONoxide. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by thumperclone on 11/23/18 at 10:11:33 any logic implied is fallacy poison gasses are poison.. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/23/18 at 10:26:35 You absolutely equated them. In your argument against my stating I'm not so sure about the dangers of CO2. You said Go in the garage and fire up the car, see how that works for you. You don't know the difference between them, or you would not have said that. Drink enough water in a day. You DIE. Too much of anything is bad. There is No biologically positive use for CO1, however CO2 IS a Natural Part of the atmosphere and HAS been higher than it is now. You're so determined to Not be taught.. ? You'll forever be a parrot if you don't admit to Yourself that your understanding has been Given to you. READ, QUESTION what you have been taught. How many wars have we been dragged into by lies? If you are able to see even one, you just proved that lies are used to drive attitudes and behaviors. You're being suckered into promoting a boogie man that will ultimately make having air conditioning declared Unsustainable Well, unless you have the money for the Carbon Tax. It's a scam. Look at how much more Green the globe is now. Increased CO2 promotes increased plant growth. Which, CAN be Crops, food, Stop listening to the fear mongers and look at it scientifically. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/23/18 at 10:40:27 "Stop listening to the fear mongers and look at it scientifically" Also lets not forget that you choose to eliminate any sea-based plant life to the C0-2 equation because you "don't care" about it. So since the C0-2 data in these discussions is selective based off of how much you care, none of the arguments are useful. Scientifically based arguments include all data, not just data we want to use. Also I would not say that body mutilation is comparable to inanimate objects. For instance if I had the choice of cutting off my dikk or handing over my gun I would choose handing over the gun. I do agree that I should not have to give up my personal property because it is the same thing other people use to commit crimes. I think a better comparison is how many people have to die in automobile accidents for me to turn over my truck and start walking everywhere. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by MnSpring on 11/24/18 at 07:57:35 "...these discussions is selective based off of how much you care, none of the arguments are useful. Scientifically based arguments include all data, not just data we want to use..." Wonder if the ‘Gun-Grabbers’, are using, all the ‘facts’, when they quote their, xxxxxx amount of deaths are caused by firearms each year. OR, JUST, the ‘facts’ they want, with the GOAL of, reducing the freedom of the Citizens of this Country. (in non PC talk, Confiscate, Delete, Take Away, your Firearm) It is possible, they forgot to, subtract, suicide, at about 22,000 per year? It is possible, they forgot to, subtract, Justifiable Homicide, (like Police/etc) ? It is possible, they forgot to, subtract, accidents, (like falling down stairs, drowning, ladders, etc., which are MORE) ? It is possible, they forgot to, subtract other things ? |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/24/18 at 08:17:39 "It is possible, they forgot to, subtract, suicide, at about 22,000 per year?" Are you saying suicide by firearm is not a gun death? If a gun is used, its a gun death. If they said "Homicide" then its wrong. "It is possible, they forgot to, subtract, Justifiable Homicide, (like Police/etc)" Are you saying law enforcement using a gun to justifiably kill someone is not a gun death? If a gun is used, its a gun death. If they said it was "Homicide" then it's wrong. "It is possible, they forgot to, subtract, accidents, (like falling down stairs, drowning, ladders, etc., which are MORE) ?" Are you saying they are calling all deaths gun related deaths even if there is no gun? If so then its wrong. "It is possible, they forgot to, subtract other things ?" Yes. My point was that a member here explains the use of scientific data to another member on the very topic he specifically is selective with, purposefully with his own admission excluding the largest contributing factor based off the fact that he doesn't care about that factor. Then tells someone else to be scientific. That makes no sense, exactly like gun grabbers manipulating numbers in their favor. This also is along the lines of citing that less-intrusive law enforcement strategies have been very effective in other communities, but ignoring that that same very low violence rate is from melting guns and making spoons out of them donated to soup kitchens. If its applicable just use it and save opinions for later. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/24/18 at 08:32:00 My point was that a member here explains the use of scientific data to another member on the very topic he specifically is selective with, purposefully with his own admission excluding the largest contributing factor based off the fact that he doesn't care about that factor. The tells someone else to be scientific. I don't remember saying that. What is the algae doing? |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/24/18 at 08:38:15 Phytoplankton absorbs CO-2. You said you didn't care about that during one of your discussions about CO-2. Even though dimethylsulfide isn't proven to affect clouds, the reasoning of just removing a plant-based absorber during a discussion about that very thing is purposefully selective and not based off of the available evidence. I assume since you don't remember that is why you are explaining to someone else how to use science as a method and not opinion. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/24/18 at 09:16:40 Phytoplankton absorbs CO-2. You said you didn't care about that during one of your discussions about CO-2. So? It's just One More element that BOLSTERS MY POINT. If CO2 is the enemy and I was pointing out what eats CO2, then who cares if I don't CARE about one more thing that supports my argument. Somehow I have to think you're getting it out of context. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Serowbot on 11/24/18 at 09:45:03 504F494E53546555655D4F43083A0 wrote:
As long as they aren't armed... :-? |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/24/18 at 09:47:54 Everybody Knows how dangerous CO-2 guns are. There's not enough Fight in Fight O'Plankton to stand up to them. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/24/18 at 10:42:42 "So? It's just One More element that BOLSTERS MY POINT." It doesn't matter what it bolsters. You are saying that a member should "look at it scientifically" while ignoring the largest contributing factor to the topic you are discussing. You are literally putting into practice the opposite of what you expect from others. As for bolstering your point the issue is reduced plankton due to unsustainable temperatures and drastic current changes. That's reduced CO-2 absorption based off of warmer temperatures. But it doesn't matter, because you don't care, even though the rest of us should be scientific about it. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/24/18 at 14:13:37 And of ALL the Dire Consequences that lurk just around the corner that the WarmLarmists have been screaming about, how many have happened? Zero. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/24/18 at 20:51:13 The same amount of global warming events have happened as the amount of Government strike teams have come into our homes and taken our guns. I'd look at it scientifically, but since we use selective data, only the ones we care about, it makes little sense to have an adult discussion about it. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/24/18 at 21:23:01 IOW, you're gonna take something I said some time ago, apply it to now, and pretend I'm supposed to trust you are 100% accurate in your understanding of what I was talking about then, But I had to educate you on Posse Comitatus. It's not complicated. But you were very confused. So, Explain the Context, show me what I said ,something,, Or Just admit you lost. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/25/18 at 07:31:29 I lost. Easy for me to say because I don't see this as a fight on some motorcycle forum, but a discussion among two adults. I don't win discussion, I partake in them. If your understanding of Posse Comitatus is correct then why is every person, including the President using it incorrectly? Why is the current management of our military not being used as if this is a foreign invasion? Why are they referencing Posse Comitatus when enacting orders, and why is it being applied the way it is now? I know why Posse Comitatus was implemented, but the empirical evidence, you know, how its being used right now, is different. You have an expectation that we look at things "scientifically" while you do not have that expectation of yourself. It's just hard to have a conversation when you get to hand-pick data and we do not, you do this regularly. For instance you will argue about the President and 1st Amendment rights regarding his online communications but if its about Twitter you immediately dismiss it because you "don't care" about his Twitter. How are you looking at it scientifically, which you expect from us, if you select information based off of your opinion of it? |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/25/18 at 09:55:53 First, let me help you understand the original post. It's not If you have to choose between giving up guns or having your dikk cut off.. It's How many people have to get shot before you CHOOSE to get rid of Your guns? Well, since I didn't murder anyone, I won't ever choose to disarm myself in order to stop what Other People are doing. It makes as much sense as you cutting your dikk off because someone else is raping people. Whew, now I'm tired of explaining the obvious.. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by MnSpring on 11/25/18 at 13:43:13 6545474F5245200 wrote:
“…It’s just hard to have a conversation when you get to hand-pick data and we do not, you do this regularly…” Due to the content of the post,“…you get to …”, could refer to JOG. Can you describe, who is, “…we do not…” In post # 18 |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/30/18 at 06:45:33 "Can you describe, who is, “…we do not…” In post # 18" People other than JoG, specifically not all people but only the people in which data/information is presented with an expectation that those people, utilize the presented data/information in its entirety. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/30/18 at 07:14:11 "It's not If you have to choose between giving up guns or having your dikk cut off.." I see what you mean. Why choose self-mutilation instead of choosing to give up my vehicle. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/30/18 at 16:45:58 Are you actually stupid or are you planning on replacing TT? How many people have to get shot before you CHOOSE to get rid of Your guns? Well, since I didn't murder anyone, I won't ever choose to disarm myself in order to stop what Other People are doing. It makes as much sense as you cutting your dikk off because someone else is raping people. Whew, now I'm tired of explaining the obvious.. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/30/18 at 16:54:14 "It makes as much sense as you cutting your dikk off because someone else is raping people." I agree. However I still think comparing bodily mutilation to surrendering an object is less accurate than comparing surrendering one object, and another. I assume that's a pretty obvious opinion I have, but I am not exhausted so I will clarify further: You describe the criminal act of using a gun to commit homicide and in correlation someone who does not commit crimes equal to or worse than homicide that would CHOOSE to turn over their personally owned firearm to a third unnamed party. I have compared someone who engages in the criminal act of homicide by use of a firearm to someone who would CHOOSE to give up another object, similar to a person who would CHOOSE to give up their truck because too many people die in automobile vehicular homicide. I make this comparison because I believe that comparing bodily mutilation to physical object surrendering is less similar than an object to object comparison even if those comparisons are not specifically linked to the same event. This is my opinion of how comparison factors work an can be perceived by others, I can explain it further if you like. |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/30/18 at 18:39:38 It's demonstrating how foolish it is to CHOOSE to FEEL GUILTY over the BEHAVIORS of Others. But, hey, stay trapped in your , whatever, can't call it Thinking |
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Title: Re: How many gun deaths Post by Eegore on 11/30/18 at 19:47:39 I have a different opinion regarding how to compare inanimate objects and self mutilation, that's it. I don't know why it bothers you, or why you think I don't understand your post. I agree with you. That's the third time I've said that. I just compare things differently. |
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