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Title: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 05:56:57 A reporter puts the moron on the canvas. Enough of the lies. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-checked-by-reporter_us_5bfd0cb8e4b0771fb6bda02e Well done Paula Reid! |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/18 at 07:16:25 What does 'prosecuted at the border' mean? |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by MnSpring on 11/28/18 at 09:36:00 6A747B7A776A716C1E0 wrote:
So, without, LYING. With out, SPINNING. With Out, PARROTING. Explain exactaly why, the policy's are different. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 10:53:50 The Facts There is simply no comparison between Trump's family separation policy and the border enforcement actions taken by the Obama and George W. Bush administrations. (After a public outcry, Trump in late June signed an executive order to end family separations.) Obama had guidelines that prioritized the deportation of gang members, national security risks and felons. Once he took office, Trump issued an executive order rolling back much of that framework and scrapping the priority list. Trump's January 2017 order refers only to "criminal offenses," which is broad enough to encompass serious felonies and misdemeanors. But the key difference here is that in April, the Justice Department rolled out a "zero tolerance" policy of prosecuting all adults caught crossing the border illegally. As a result of this and the Department of Homeland Security's decision in May to refer all illegal-crossing cases to federal prosecutors, families apprehended at the border were systematically separated. The reason is simple: Children can't be prosecuted with their parents. This is worlds apart from the Obama- and Bush-era policy of separating children from adults at the border only in limited circumstances, such as when officials suspected human trafficking or another kind of danger to the child, or when false claims of parentage were made. "The biggest difference really is the difference between a policy that is targeted and tailored to protect a child and a policy which essentially uses children as a way to punish the parents or to deter them from doing the thing that we don't want them to do," said Cecilia Muńoz, who oversaw immigration as director of Obama's domestic policy council. "The scale as a result is very different and the impact is very different." Read more here: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/factcheck/ct-fact-check-trump-immigration-20181127-story.html |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/18 at 12:33:23 Assuming the story is correct, did they have the same policy? No, not really. Some very clear difference despite the fact that both had parameters that allowed for separations. But, I'm not getting worked up over what you think is a major lie. I don't see this as any different than if you like your plan, you can keep you plan or a million other similar comments every President says. But in my opinion we should arrest adults crossing the border, with or without children especially since it's not entirely clear if the child is theirs or not. I've read of plenty of cases where children not their own were being used to circumvent the system. The 'catch and release' was worthless when the vast majority never returned for their hearings. Look, if we catch a parent robbing a store with his child in the car, we don't let him go. It's a tough spot to be in for sure. We've got to control the border better and the illegals are learning to use children basically as human shields. Perhaps the reason is because the previous policy essentially laid out a blueprint on how to get into the country. Another reason why we need to build a wall. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 13:42:32 447671606776615E726178130 wrote:
It's not about the policy. It's about the blatant lie - the constant stream of lies. The lies that you and your buddies just overlook. The lies that the media overlooks - until someone like Paula Reid comes along and says "enough!". That's the point mark. He lied. He got caught and just walked away. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by verslagen1 on 11/28/18 at 13:54:24 Are you insinuating that the migrants don't have red headed children? That they all look alike? |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/18 at 13:55:52 LOL, I love that that's about the only thing you and your pals can come up with on Obama! Hardly. he was taken to task on it - day in and day out by the media Not hardly. blatant lie Hardly a blatant lie. [b]He got caught and just walked away[b] I'll bet he hardly remembers the incident. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 14:03:01 4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
I'll bet you're right. He has no clue what lies he's told from one day to the next. There are literally thousands that he's told. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/18 at 14:40:03 I know you don't understand this, but this is not a big deal. I'll tell you when he lies on an important topic. Until then, sit back and reap the benefits of Trump. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by MnSpring on 11/28/18 at 14:47:30 485659585548534E3C0 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D So, You LIED. You, SPUN. And you, PARROTED. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 14:59:40 4E6D5073716A6D64030 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D So, You LIED. You, SPUN. And you, PARROTED. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Show me where I lied. Show me where I spun. If you think that posting an article is "parroting" - then you're guilty of that as well. NBD |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 15:04:23 023037262130271834273E550 wrote:
Having our president get caught in a blatant lie is "not a big deal"? So I suppose the fact that our president lies on a daily basis is also "not a big deal", huh? Fine mark. Roll yourself up tight in that little cocoon of trump's hair and be happy. Meanwhile, the rest of the waking world will see exactly what's happening and will be doing something about it. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/18 at 15:09:00 Yea, you'll be doing something about it. You'll cash bigger checks and live in a more secure country. You're welcome. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by Serowbot on 11/28/18 at 15:11:37 Obama lies,.. it's a scandal... Trump lies,... it's a Tuesday... |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 15:19:18 447671606776615E726178130 wrote:
No, I'll be fighting to remove that clown. I'm smart enough to know that he's not the catalyst for any of the economic success we may see. He's merely signator for the republican establishment. The tax breaks aren't working. Wages are still stagnant and how's that deficit doing? Where's that tax break he promised the middle class right before the midterms? Where's his solution to health care? There's a good reason his polls are at 60% disapproval and 38% approval. I'm tired of being embarrassed to be an American because of his stupid a$$ remarks and clueless tweets. This idiot runs his presidency from his toilet seat on Twitter. Pathetic, petty, name calling, childish moron. But yeah, you cons just love him.... SMH |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 15:19:42 3026312C34212C37430 wrote:
Well put. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by MnSpring on 11/28/18 at 15:31:26 7C626D6C617C677A080 wrote:
And while you be do'ing that, you'll be: "... cash bigger checks and live in a more secure country. ..." ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D SMH Than their ya go, 'Shaving Your Head', again ! |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/18 at 15:35:48 I'm tired of being embarrassed to be an American because of his stupid a$$ Leave. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 15:41:06 5D7E436062797E77100 wrote:
And while you be do'ing that, you'll be: "... cash bigger checks and live in a more secure country. ..." ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D My checks have not gotten bigger - nor will they. That tax break didn't give me any boost. I'm not a corporation and not part of the 1%. SMH Than their ya go, 'Shaving Your Head', again ! [/quote] To be clear mn, SMH stands for "shake my head". It's like what I do at your posts... I just don't understand how you function in society. I shake my head in wonder at how your posts are so odd. I shake my head at the fact you refuse to learn how to use the words "there", "their" and "they're" properly. (now it looks like I can add the word "than" to that list as well... SMH) I shake my head in wonder at the likes of you. So, to recap - SMH = shake my head. Got it? Do you need more of an explanation? Do you now understand? http://media1.tenor.com/images/c1bbaf1dd4705bd3dd448f20d2ba056e/tenor.gif?itemid=5105574 |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 15:42:00 1F2D2A3B3C2D3A05293A23480 wrote:
Hell no. It's his fault, not mine. He's the idiot, not me. I sure as hell didn't vote for him! |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by MnSpring on 11/28/18 at 16:00:43 372926272A372C31430 wrote:
Didn't you Just, 'Shave Your Head' ? OH, Just realized who, (as a group identifier), always, Shaves Their Head ! WOW, you are 'One Of Them' then !!!!! Who wodda known, Sheesh. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/28/18 at 16:04:57 60437E5D5F44434A2D0 wrote:
Didn't you Just, 'Shave Your Head' ? OH, Just realized who, (as a group identifier), always, Shaves Their Head ! WOW, you are 'One Of Them' then !!!!! Who wodda known, Sheesh. [/quote] You're ignorant and a great representation of the conservatives who post on here. Thanks mn! Keep up the great work! |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/18 at 17:52:11 He's the idiot, not me All evidence to the contrary.... |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/28/18 at 18:40:27 093B3C2D2A3B2C133F2C355E0 wrote:
Hadn't laughed out loud all day. Thanks |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/18 at 18:44:10 Payback. You've killed me a few times! |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by Matchless G11 on 11/29/18 at 03:48:43 437176676071665975667F140 wrote:
It is funny when Trump got elected, how many liberals said they were going to move to Canada. Did any? ::) |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 04:56:34 No. Everyone knew they were empty threats. Same thing with climate change zealots, both individuals and companies. They preach doom and gloom about sea level rise yet they still build houses and companies and invest millions in new ocean side plants and resorts. Why? Because they know the ocean isn't going to rise 2 meters by 2050, 2075 or whatever BS number they put out there. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 05:03:33 No, I'll be fighting to remove that clown. And that's what makes leftist unpatriotic, unAmerican crybaby scum. I was 100% against Obama but he won the election so he was the man until the next election. The peaceful transition of power is a requirement of a Republic. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 08:11:27 417374656273645B77647D160 wrote:
Really? Interesting you say that. You have the likes of mn on your side. Just putting that out there. (or is it their?) ;D |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 08:14:59 744641505746516E425148230 wrote:
LOL - now that's a funny statement. You think this is any different?? Our right to protest is at the very core of who we are as a country. Further, if Obama had done a 10th of what this clown had done, you bubs would be trying to run him out on a rail. You go ahead and deny that - you're lying. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by MnSpring on 11/29/18 at 08:36:31 796768696479627F0D0 wrote:
Very interesting, seems like someone, has got there panties in a Great Big Bunch. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 09:13:49 4D6E537072696E67000 wrote:
Very interesting, seems like someone, has got there panties in a Great Big Bunch. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Not at all mn. I'm actually making fun of you. I'm not surprised you missed that. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by MnSpring on 11/29/18 at 09:26:02 6B757A7B766B706D1F0 wrote:
Welll GOLLEY GEEEEEE, When JOG said: "You know trump hasn't been able to play any golf, zero, none, since he was elected." Did you, Miss Something ????????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 09:30:37 082B1635372C2B22450 wrote:
Welll GOLLEY GEEEEEE, When JOG said: "You know trump hasn't been able to play any golf, zero, none, since he was elected." Did you, Miss Something ????????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] No. Do you think I did? (why did you capitalize "miss"?) I believe that jog actually thinks that trump has had no time to play golf. Are you now speaking for jog? |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 09:33:24 Our right to protest is at the very core of who we are as a country. For 8 years, it was un-American and racist. Now it's patriotic. We were working to beat Obama in the next election, you are trying to undo the results of the last election. Again, you're one small step away from violence. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 09:40:32 132126373021360925362F440 wrote:
Not even close. trump is the one inciting the violence - the proof is in the pudding. It's a fact that the most violence comes from trump supporters. He's incited it at his rallies. Speaking of which - how many fuking rallies does this a-hole need to do?? That right there tells a wonderful story... Fascism 101. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 09:53:25 Well mark, when your reason for protest was based on bigoted views - No they were not. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 09:57:26 457770616677605F736079120 wrote:
OK then - why did you protest him? What was your biggest beef against Obama? |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 10:09:18 i've been against liberalism since I was around 25 or so and had moved to a different city and had my first real job. I actually voted for Bill Clinton the first time and then learn the hard way about democratic policies. conservative ideology is morally, fiscally, and socially superior to liberal ideology. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by LostArtist on 11/29/18 at 10:28:44 023037262130271834273E550 wrote:
and when the Tea Party hung Obama in effigy you weren't one step from violence then were you? like this: Tea Partiers Protest At White House: ‘Hang The Lying Kenyan Traitor’ https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tea-partiers-protest-lynch-obama |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by LostArtist on 11/29/18 at 10:30:18 5F6D6A7B7C6D7A45697A63080 wrote:
only if all you care about is money |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 11:20:58 142621303726310E223128430 wrote:
Look at trump - your argument falls apart. Trump is not a practising Christian. He's had numerous affairs while he was married - he's been married three times. He curses in public, etc., etc. Our deficits are up and the policies he's signed are adding to the national debt. Socially, we as a country are more divisive than ever. Racists are becoming more brazen and that can be attributed to trump. So - you're reasoning for being a conservative is out the window. Further, you didn't answer the question at hand - why were/are you against Obama? |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 11:42:02 No it doesn't. I never said Trump was the perfect embodiment of conservatism. I've said countless times Trump was the only option for stopping the runaway liberalism that is destroying our nation and Hilary would have been just another straw on the camel's back. Trump has temporarily stopped our descent. No sweat, you will win the war in the end. Trump just won a battle that delayed the inevitable. We will disappear as a nation recognizable as the United States of America. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 11:47:01 Further, you didn't answer the question at hand - why were/are you against Obama? Number one; First and foremost, I would always select the more pro-life candidate. By default, that rules out every national Democrat since you cannot be pro-life and a national Democrat. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 11:52:31 487A7D6C6B7A6D527E6D741F0 wrote:
I look forward to your response in how liberalism is so terrible. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/29/18 at 11:54:34 7754484F7A494F52484F3B0 wrote:
only if all you care about is money[/quote] No, they are the foundational principles of a strong, healthy SOciety.. Money is not the goal. It's a Natural byproduct of a right society. Avoiding prosperity in order that everyone is equally poor isn't good for anyone. |
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Title: Re: Finally Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 11:58:13 1B292E3F38293E012D3E274C0 wrote:
Funny - I never really saw any Obama protestor using that line. I've never seen you use that line come to think of it. But fine. I find it odd that you'd support trump given that he's waffled on the pro-life stance. He's used it at his convenience in my opinion. But whatever. So, that was your only beef with Obama? That's why you were "100%" against him? I don't buy it. But that's just my opinion... |
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