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Message started by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 08:26:25

Title: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 08:26:25

And this time, it might just sweep trump away!

Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's former lawyer, made a surprise appearance before a federal judge in New York on Thursday and pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about work he did on an aborted project to build a Trump Tower in Russia.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-lying-congress-143306751.html



OH BOY IS THIS GREAT

http://i.imgur.com/JEolxmf.gif?noredirect

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 09:18:21

On Thursday, Cohen admitted: "I knew at the time in that I asserted that all efforts had ceased in January 2016, when in fact they continued until June 2016," Cohen said. That same month, members of Trump’s campaign committee held a now-infamous meeting in Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer who they were told would deliver “dirt” on Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.


http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-apos-ex-lawyer-cohen-142638823.html


More salacious details to follow I'm sure!!!

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 09:36:55

Isn't this just a he said - he said situation?

I believe Trump Jr.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 09:44:15


645651404756417E524158330 wrote:
Isn't this just a he said - he said situation?

I believe Trump Jr.


Believe what you want.

Facts are facts.  And - unlike the case of Dr. Ford vs. beer-barrel brett - there will be a paper trial.  You know, bank records, emails and remember, this just happened - it'll be fresh in the minds of those called to testify.

Yeah, don't stop believin'.  The truth will surface (and you probably won't like it)

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 09:50:39

I'll let the facts and logic lead where they may and take it from there.

How many headlines have been written that this testimony is the end for Trump? None of them have come to pass so I'll just wait on this one too.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 09:52:57

And the plot thickens:


A series of email exchanges between a pair of Trump loyalists shed fresh light on special counsel Robert Mueller’s intense focus on longtime Trump political adviser Roger Stone amid the ongoing investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Two emails sent by Stone to his associate Jerome Corsi, a former Infowars bureau chief known for promulgating political smear campaigns and conspiracy theories, show that Stone instructed Corsi to contact Julian Assange, the controversial WikiLeaks founder, about the imminent release of information meant to damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign for president.



http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/robert-mueller-appears-laser-focused-roger-stone-emails/story?id=59485571

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 09:54:33


053730212637201F332039520 wrote:
I'll let the facts and logic lead where they may and take it from there.

Good - as will I.

How many headlines have been written that this testimony is the end for Trump? None of them have come to pass so I'll just wait on this one too.


Well mark - here's the thing.  These things take time.  Just keep reading this thread for updates.  The one right above this post is especially intriguing.

But, as you said - let the facts and logic lead the way.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/18 at 14:44:52

Just keep reading this thread for updates.

I think I should seek out more reliable and truthful sources for news, thanks anyway.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 14:48:11


4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
Just keep reading this thread for updates.

I think I should seek out more reliable and truthful sources for news, thanks anyway.



At least I post links.  You can scrutinize them all you want, but you can believe that I'm not posting from the likes of msnbc or fox "news".

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by Serowbot on 11/29/18 at 14:59:19


417374656273645B77647D160 wrote:
Isn't this just a he said - he said situation?

I believe Trump Jr.


Did you believe Jr when he said the meeting never happened?
...or when he said the meeting happened but it was about adoption?
..or when he said, okay, it was about getting dirt from the Russians about Hillary, but we didn't get any?...
...or when daddy crafted a denial for Jr to read before Congress?...

TDS... that's the stuff...

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 15:02:06


3D2B3C21392C213A4E0 wrote:
[quote author=417374656273645B77647D160 link=1543508786/0#2 date=1543513015]Isn't this just a he said - he said situation?

I believe Trump Jr.


Did you believe Jr when he said the meeting never happened?
...or when he said the meeting happened but it was about adoption?
..or when he said, okay, it was about getting dirt from the Russians about Hillary, but we didn't get any?...
...or when daddy crafted a denial for Jr to read before Congress?...

TDS... that's the stuff...[/quote]


Well Sero - they were all true... um.. in their own way....right? ::)

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/29/18 at 19:41:47

This just in:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into President Trump’s efforts to build a skyscraper in Moscow has led him to ask questions about the role two of the president’s children played in attempting to secure a Russian real estate deal, sources tell Yahoo News.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/mueller-eyes-ivanka-don-jr-s-work-trump-tower-moscow-003012099.html

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mueller-reportedly-looking-at-ivanka-trumps-involvement-with-trump-tower-moscow/

7:50 p.m.

President Donald Trump's eldest son and his daughter, Ivanka Trump, were involved in discussions about the Trump Tower Moscow project at the center of Michael Cohen's guilty plea for lying to Congress.

That's according to a person close to the Trump Organization.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-trump-calls-cohen-weak-person-lying-154252068.html

Yep - I think sh!t's about to get real.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by MnSpring on 11/30/18 at 08:04:53


4C525D5C514C574A380 wrote:
OH BOY IS THIS GREAT
 
Thanks tt,
for posting a photo of you,
in the first post of this thread !



Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/30/18 at 08:13:21


1E3D0023213A3D34530 wrote:
[quote author=4C525D5C514C574A380 link=1543508786/0#0 date=1543508785]OH BOY IS THIS GREAT
 
Thanks tt,
for posting a photo of you,
in the first post of this thread !
[/quote]


Yep!  I'm Flounder!

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by WebsterMark on 11/30/18 at 12:42:51


160807060B160D10620 wrote:
This just in:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into President Trump’s efforts to build a skyscraper in Moscow has led him to ask questions about the role two of the president’s children played in attempting to secure a Russian real estate deal, sources tell Yahoo News.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/mueller-eyes-ivanka-don-jr-s-work-trump-tower-moscow-003012099.html

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mueller-reportedly-looking-at-ivanka-trumps-involvement-with-trump-tower-moscow/

7:50 p.m.

President Donald Trump's eldest son and his daughter, Ivanka Trump, were involved in discussions about the Trump Tower Moscow project at the center of Michael Cohen's guilty plea for lying to Congress.

That's according to a person close to the Trump Organization.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-trump-calls-cohen-weak-person-lying-154252068.html

Yep - I think sh!t's about to get real.


My prediction: Nothing will come out of this. Not legally anyway. TDS infected conspiracy theorist will keep their tinfoil hats on, make up lies about what was and wasn't said and scream their little lungs out, but at the end of the day, nothing.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 11/30/18 at 12:53:19


556760717667704F637069020 wrote:
My prediction: Nothing will come out of this. Not legally anyway. TDS infected conspiracy theorist will keep their tinfoil hats on, make up lies about what was and wasn't said and scream their little lungs out, but at the end of the day, nothing.


I'm sure you hope you're right.  I don't think you are.  At the very least it shows trump knowingly pursuing business with russia after he got the nomination.  If you want to label that as "NBD", go right ahead.  But you'd be lying if you say that'd be OK if a democrat did the same.

So much hypocrisy in just 2 short years.

SMH

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by MnSpring on 11/30/18 at 16:07:48


140A050409140F12600 wrote:
 
SMH


You JUST, Shaved Your Head.

I remember the name of those people that Shave their head all the time,
Skinheads.
tt you must be a 'Skinhead', because you shave your head so often.


Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by WebsterMark on 12/01/18 at 06:37:52


372926272A372C31430 wrote:
[quote author=556760717667704F637069020 link=1543508786/0#14 date=1543610571]

My prediction: Nothing will come out of this. Not legally anyway. TDS infected conspiracy theorist will keep their tinfoil hats on, make up lies about what was and wasn't said and scream their little lungs out, but at the end of the day, nothing.


I'm sure you hope you're right.  I don't think you are.  At the very least it shows trump knowingly pursuing business with russia after he got the nomination.  If you want to label that as "NBD", go right ahead.  But you'd be lying if you say that'd be OK if a democrat did the same.

So much hypocrisy in just 2 short years.

SMH[/quote]

It shows nothing. It shows a  thief who pleaded guilty to crimes that will put him out in prison is telling a story at odds with what he and others said before. Remember, none of Mueller's guilty pleas have anything to do with Trump's campaign directly. They are from events well before or process crimes during the course of the "investigation ". Quotes are there for the obvious reason, this is not an investigation into a crime, this is an investigation trolling about, looking for anything big to hang its hat on. Fakes news media has printed endless "what if" stories that never come true. And a conspiracy theorist like you buys into them. If you read the NPR story about Trump Jr, you probably got all excited only to find out it was more fake news. Only thing, wacho conspiracy theorist like you will ignore the correction and repeat the fake story enough times until you actually believe it. Stop SMH, your brains are beginning to leak out.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by Serowbot on 12/01/18 at 10:44:04

Trump Tower Russia...
"It didn't happen,.. but if it did, I wasn't involved,... but if I was, it's perfectly legal,... but if it isn't legal, it wasn't successful anyway."
"... and that Cohen guy,... is weak,... a liar,... and not very smart.  I only hire the best people"

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 12/01/18 at 19:33:20


092A1734362D2A23440 wrote:
[quote author=140A050409140F12600 link=1543508786/15#15 date=1543611199]  
SMH


You JUST, Shaved Your Head.

I remember the name of those people that Shave their head all the time,
Skinheads.
tt you must be a 'Skinhead', because you shave your head so often.

[/quote]


mn - you're an ignorant person.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 12/01/18 at 19:35:03


407275646372655A76657C170 wrote:
[quote author=372926272A372C31430 link=1543508786/15#15 date=1543611199][quote author=556760717667704F637069020 link=1543508786/0#14 date=1543610571]

My prediction: Nothing will come out of this. Not legally anyway. TDS infected conspiracy theorist will keep their tinfoil hats on, make up lies about what was and wasn't said and scream their little lungs out, but at the end of the day, nothing.


I'm sure you hope you're right.  I don't think you are.  At the very least it shows trump knowingly pursuing business with russia after he got the nomination.  If you want to label that as "NBD", go right ahead.  But you'd be lying if you say that'd be OK if a democrat did the same.

So much hypocrisy in just 2 short years.

SMH[/quote]

It shows nothing. It shows a  thief who pleaded guilty to crimes that will put him out in prison is telling a story at odds with what he and others said before. Remember, none of Mueller's guilty pleas have anything to do with Trump's campaign directly. They are from events well before or process crimes during the course of the "investigation ". Quotes are there for the obvious reason, this is not an investigation into a crime, this is an investigation trolling about, looking for anything big to hang its hat on. Fakes news media has printed endless "what if" stories that never come true. And a conspiracy theorist like you buys into them. If you read the NPR story about Trump Jr, you probably got all excited only to find out it was more fake news. Only thing, wacho conspiracy theorist like you will ignore the correction and repeat the fake story enough times until you actually believe it. Stop SMH, your brains are beginning to leak out.[/quote]


LOL - look at you mark - you're "whistling past the graveyard".

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by WebsterMark on 12/02/18 at 05:49:11

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-false-statements-trump-tower-meeting/

A good and fair summary. If I assume the worst, nothing rises to a level that would require action against Trump. I see nothing here that would lead me to turn against Trump. As I said, I supported Trump for two chief reasons. 1) He was the only one capable of beating Hilary.  2) I believe him to be the most patriotic of all the candidates.

The Muller report will have no real smoking gun, no real criminal offense. That won't stop the media from over hyping and the partisan Dems in tne House will scream for impeachment but I don't believe that would get out of the House much less a conviction in a Senate trial. We'll al get sick of seeing a thousand definitions for the word collusion.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by MnSpring on 12/02/18 at 11:55:03


796768696479627F0D0 wrote:

mn - you're an ignorant person.


Ohch, Owie, Oh my, Ewwwe,

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Another name to call someone,
on this forum,
which is approved by Bot


(Oh, wait, that is already on my list, several times)

Again:  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by Serowbot on 12/02/18 at 13:18:54

Tn"T, please stop calling MnSpring ignorant...
It's hurting his feelings.


Serow

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 12/03/18 at 08:19:37


7C5F624143585F56310 wrote:
[quote author=796768696479627F0D0 link=1543508786/15#19 date=1543721600]

mn - you're an ignorant person.


Ohch, Owie, Oh my, Ewwwe,

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Another name to call someone,
on this forum,
which is approved by Bot


(Oh, wait, that is already on my list, several times)

Again:  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[/quote]


I'm sorry mn, Sero's right.  I shouldn't call you names.

I formally apologize for calling you an ignorant person mn.

I hope I didn't hurt your feelings too much.

Are you ok?

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by MnSpring on 12/03/18 at 09:52:48


607E71707D607B66140 wrote:
I hope I didn't hurt your feelings too much.

Rolling
On
The
Floor
Laughing
Out
Loud


Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 12/03/18 at 10:13:09


74576A494B50575E390 wrote:
[quote author=607E71707D607B66140 link=1543508786/15#24 date=1543853977]
I hope I didn't hurt your feelings too much.

Rolling
On
The
Floor
Laughing
Out
Loud

[/quote]


Oh, good.  You're feel better then?

Your feelings aren't hurt anymore?

Would you like me to apologize again - maybe just to be safe?

I sometimes forget how delicate your feelings are.  

If I could only find an analogy as to how delicate they are... maybe like a delicate crystalline structure made out of frozen water vapor?.... hmmm?

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 12/03/18 at 12:00:17

trump tweets:

Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!

4:31 AM - 11 Jan 2017


Oh really?

Trump addresses Michael Cohen guilty plea: "What he's trying to do is get a reduced sentence. So he's lying about a project that everybody knew about. We were very open with it."


Yep - he's the "best president ever"  ;D


http://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-then-and-now-business-deals-in-russia-1384071747980

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/03/18 at 12:51:28

Considering everyone since JFK has been an a55wipe, he is. Didn't ever say he was perfect.
Considering the company he's being compared to, maybe
Trump is the least crappy president I've seen
would be more accurate.

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 12/03/18 at 13:08:28


6C7375726F6859695961737F34060 wrote:
Considering everyone since JFK has been an a55wipe, he is. Didn't ever say he was perfect.

No, you just said he's the best you've ever seen in your life.  ;D

Considering the company he's being compared to, maybe
Trump is the least crappy president I've seen
would be more accurate.


LOL - yeah, because it's cool to make deals with russia when you're president of the United States (or, the republican nominee).

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds jog - nicely done!

Title: Re: Another Wave Is Coming
Post by T And T Garage on 12/04/18 at 13:14:40

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The attorneys general of the District of Columbia and Maryland plan to file subpoenas Tuesday seeking records from the Trump Organization, the Internal Revenue Service and dozens of other entities as part of a lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of profiting off the presidency.



The plot keeps thickening!

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