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Message started by WebsterMark on 01/20/19 at 10:35:09

Title: Mission Impossible Challenge
Post by WebsterMark on 01/20/19 at 10:35:09

We had the ice bucket challenge a few years ago, we've got the 10 year before and after photo challenge going on now. I'd like to issue a Mission Impossible Challenge for the Tall Table.

We've all probably see and read the story of the all boys Catholic High School surrounding and taunting an old Native American man with their MAGA hats and chanting build the wall etc.... Right?

What if it was another example of Fake News? Or, at the very least, the poorest journalism imaginable?

Here's the challenge. See the long video below. It's an 1:46 long. Turn the sound up.

If the link doesn't work, Google Shar Yagataz Banyamyan facebook video.

Watch this video and take the challenge.

If you were a journalist, would you write the story the way it's been written in virtually every mainstream outlet I've seen?

Or if you were a news editor, would you run just the short clips we've all seen?

Would you describe the men exchanging words with the students as 'African-Americans preaching the Bible' as I've read?

When the Bible teaching African-Americans tell the black student, whom they repeatedly refer to as ni**er in the video, that when he gets older the white students will steal his organs and sell them, would you include that in your story?

When the old man appeared, would you say the teenagers 'swarmed and encircled' him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-2z3en-oIo
The video starts at the 44 minute mark, but back it up to the beginning.

Go ahead, take the Mission Impossible Challenge.

Title: Re: Mission Impossible Challenge
Post by Serowbot on 01/20/19 at 11:17:32

I don't accept your premise...
I haven't seen any stories saying 'African-Americans preaching the Bible'
Show me some links... (I tried Googling that quote and got no stories like you suggest)

In this video, I see three idiots surrounded by a bunch of people that disagree.
In the native American video, I see the opposite. A bunch of boys ridiculing a man.
Virtually opposite

No equivalence, unless you count the commonality of religious bigotry.

Title: Re: Mission Impossible Challenge
Post by T And T Garage on 01/20/19 at 12:14:17

The fact is this - racism is racism.

The guy at the beginning of the video is just as much a racist as the petulant kids who don't know what the hell they're chanting for. They actively mocked the Native American Elder.

Stop trying to justify one brand of racism for another.

Just like so many I've talked to about steve king - bringing up malcolm x.

Evil is evil. Try and keep that in mind, hmm?

Title: Re: Mission Impossible Challenge
Post by WebsterMark on 01/22/19 at 07:00:15

Two epic fails. If anything, this demonstrates just how leftist the lefties on here are. Even some regular well know media wackos backtracked from an obviously biased story.

This is how hands up, don't shoot lives on. This is how the Kavanaugh lies live on.

Good for these kids standing up against the enemy of the people.

Title: Re: Mission Impossible Challenge
Post by T And T Garage on 01/22/19 at 08:27:42

6B595E4F48594E715D4E573C0 wrote:

Two epic fails.

In your opinion, nothing more.

If anything, this demonstrates just how leftist the lefties on here are. Even some regular well know media wackos backtracked from an obviously biased story.

The simple fact of those kids wearing MAGA hats puts them in question. Secondly, they mocked the Elder. ~~Anyone~~ Everyone can see that.

This is how hands up, don't shoot lives on. This is how the Kavanaugh lies live on.

Sad that you think the "hands up" is some kind of farce (just be glad you're not black, huh mark?)

Beer barrel brett is who he is. That smirk-wearing kid is growing up just like him. Misogynistic and bigoted.

Good for these kids standing up against the enemy of the people.

Yeah, if the "enemy of the people" was the First Amendment.

So pathetic you can't (or refuse) see that.

Title: Re: Mission Impossible Challenge
Post by LostArtist on 01/22/19 at 12:57:17

I'll just say it's more complicated than the original knee jerk reaction stories let on.

just because the kids are standing up against the hebrew isrealites, as they call themselves (the black people there protesting and being fairly "racist") that doesn't mean that they aren't racist or racist sympathics in themselves, since they are being attacked by the race they'd be racist against...

So, yes, this was an example of bad journalism by the liberal press this time, it happens with conservative news as well, but because there is less conservative news there are fewer examples.

basically, it could be seen as racist vs racist with a Native American in the middle trying to intervene, Nathan Phillips, is a freaking hero.

oh, and I got most of my info from CNN, including them correcting the story, and Twitter actually stepping up and disabling the account that started the whole bad journalism aspect of this story.

Title: Re: Mission Impossible Challenge
Post by WebsterMark on 01/22/19 at 17:37:28

40637F784D7E78657F780C0 wrote:

I'll just say it's more complicated than the original knee jerk reaction stories let on.

just because the kids are standing up against the hebrew isrealites, as they call themselves (the black people there protesting and being fairly "racist") that doesn't mean that they aren't racist or racist sympathics in themselves, since they are being attacked by the race they'd be racist against... Are you basically labeling them racist on the basis of being attacked by racist?

So, yes, this was an example of bad journalism by the liberal press this time, it happens with conservative news as well, but because there is less conservative news there are fewer examples.

basically, it could be seen as racist (again, on what basis are you labeling the kids racists? ) vs racist with a Native American in the middle trying to intervene, Nathan Phillips, is a freaking hero.
Nathan Phillips is not a hero. He was not trying to intervene for anything other than his own purposes that much is for certain. He's lied several times already and has let himself be called a vietnam vet. Whatever.

oh, and I got most of my info from CNN, including them correcting the story, and Twitter actually stepping up and disabling the account that started the whole bad journalism aspect of this story.

Title: Re: Mission Impossible Challenge
Post by T And T Garage on 01/22/19 at 18:12:59

0E3C3B2A2D3C2B14382B32590 wrote:

[quote author=40637F784D7E78657F780C0 link=1548009309/0#5 date=1548190637]I'll just say it's more complicated than the original knee jerk reaction stories let on.

just because the kids are standing up against the hebrew isrealites, as they call themselves (the black people there protesting and being fairly "racist") that doesn't mean that they aren't racist or racist sympathics in themselves, since they are being attacked by the race they'd be racist against... Are you basically labeling them racist on the basis of being attacked by racist?

Stop trying to justify one brand of racism for another.

So, yes, this was an example of bad journalism by the liberal press this time, it happens with conservative news as well, but because there is less conservative news there are fewer examples.

basically, it could be seen as racist (again, on what basis are you labeling the kids racists? ) vs racist with a Native American in the middle trying to intervene, Nathan Phillips, is a freaking hero.
Nathan Phillips is not a hero. He was not trying to intervene for anything other than his own purposes that much is for certain. He's lied several times already and has let himself be called a vietnam vet. Whatever.

oh, and I got most of my info from CNN, including them correcting the story, and Twitter actually stepping up and disabling the account that started the whole bad journalism aspect of this story.

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Title: Re: Mission Impossible Challenge
Post by LostArtist on 01/23/19 at 10:23:42

4F7D7A6B6C7D6A55796A73180 wrote:

[quote author=40637F784D7E78657F780C0 link=1548009309/0#5 date=1548190637]I'll just say it's more complicated than the original knee jerk reaction stories let on.

just because the kids are standing up against the hebrew isrealites, as they call themselves (the black people there protesting and being fairly "racist") that doesn't mean that they aren't racist or racist sympathics in themselves, since they are being attacked by the race they'd be racist against... Are you basically labeling them racist on the basis of being attacked by racist?

where'd I call them racists???

So, yes, this was an example of bad journalism by the liberal press this time, it happens with conservative news as well, but because there is less conservative news there are fewer examples.

basically, it could be seen as racist (again, on what basis are you labeling the kids racists? )

again, where am I calling them racists... "could be seen" . do you even know how to read? that's the problem with conservatives, always cutting the nuance out of everything making everything black and white and simple... if that's all you can handle no wonder I don't like your kind very much.

vs racist with a Native American in the middle trying to intervene, Nathan Phillips, is a freaking hero.
Nathan Phillips is not a hero. He was not trying to intervene for anything other than his own purposes that much is for certain. He's lied several times already and has let himself be called a vietnam vet. Whatever.

and Trump's lied about his worth and so much more... so let's not pretend that you actually care about authenticity....

bottom line, HERO, he stood up to both sides without compromising his peaceful protest.

oh, and I got most of my info from CNN, including them correcting the story, and Twitter actually stepping up and disabling the account that started the whole bad journalism aspect of this story.

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and I still only really have a very cursory knowledge of this event as it's nothing I really want to spend a bunch of time on dividing us even further over this, now, if you want to discuss how we can better our own media habits and how it's probably best for us all (on both sides) to restrain our outrage... then okay, but if you want to continue to divide us, I'm not interested