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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> So many addicts, addictions...... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1548947672 Message started by raydawg on 01/31/19 at 07:14:32 |
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Title: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by raydawg on 01/31/19 at 07:14:32 But to love......???? Isn't love good? I can see so much wisdom, as well as explanations, to what I observe around me. I hope you can too :) Relationship Addiction ( or attention addiction ) We who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged. We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. - Hebrews 6:18b–19 Have you ever thought about being addicted to love? It sounds like a good thing to be addicted to, but clinically speaking, it’s a problem. Relationship addicts live in a world of paradoxes that leaves them feeling they have no way out. They desperately want to get close to someone, but end up with a person whose problems make closeness impossible. They seek security, but end up with someone who always leaves the back door open for a quick get-away. Relationship addicts crave unconditional love, but live in constant fear of abandonment if they don’t live up to their own impossible standards. They want to be free to love, but often trap themselves in a relationship by becoming pregnant or by weaving some other type of emotional spider web. Drowning in the whirlpool of their own emotions, they turn to a rescuer who cannot swim. When all is said and done, for healing to occur, if you’re a relationship addict, you’ll need to come to the end of your own strength and seek God’s help to resolve the hurts of the past and move toward a genuine focus on others. Without this, relationship addicts are doomed to a cycle of misery and futility. Remember, you can never fix what only God can fix. - Steve Arterburn God is more interested in your future and your relationships than you are. - Billy Graham In the verse it talks of a anchor..... Everyone knows the use of a anchor, I hope ;D It speaks of hope as a anchor to the soul..... HOPE, its what drives and motivates us daily in our lives. Some folk are anchored to a "attitude"...... Relationship addicts crave unconditional love, but live in constant fear of abandonment if they don’t live up to their own impossible standards, this was me, for way too much of my life....ARG! :( Stuck in that spot, holding fast, wasting away to their own demise, by their attitude....that is so sad :-[ Ya all have a wonderful day.....PEACE! :) :) :) |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by Serowbot on 01/31/19 at 08:15:06 Somebody buy you Quote of the Day toilet paper?.... :-/ |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by eau de sauvage on 01/31/19 at 18:15:20 6C7A6D70687D706B1F0 wrote:
Or maybe just a can of alphabet soup. Are you alright Ray? It's just that when someone goes from abusive to god fearing, in the States this often precedes a gun rampage. Fortunately we have armed moderators on this forum. |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by batman on 01/31/19 at 19:47:19 You can pray to God to save you, or wait for Washington to save you , or just take a look at yourself and decide to change. Which do you think could begin RIGHT NOW? Do you wish to delay and say a prayer? You may, if you believe, follow God's path ,but the steps you take are altogether YOURS. |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by eau de sauvage on 02/01/19 at 04:51:16 4C4F5A434F401A162E0 wrote:
well said, bm. |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by Eegore on 02/01/19 at 05:28:29 Reminds me of the religious guy with the flood coming to his house story. |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by T And T Garage on 02/01/19 at 06:17:44 484B5E474B441E122A0 wrote:
Well put Batman. |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by T And T Garage on 02/01/19 at 06:18:17 1636343C2136530 wrote:
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by Eegore on 02/01/19 at 06:31:06 "Remember, you can never fix what only God can fix." This is the line that makes things a little rough for atheist/agnostic/complacent etc. individuals. It can easily be interpreted as saying that the human individual is completely incapable of resolving an issue on their own, and must wait for God to supply the resolution. I agree that this isn't the most efficient course of action. However I do think that religion, in this case God and prayer, are potentially useful tools for creating change in the challenged human individual. Unfortunately many people seek only to say prayers, and not follow through with action. The following can be interpreted as using God/religion as a tool to do something yourself: "seek God’s help to resolve the hurts of the past and move toward a genuine focus on others" I'm feel that religion can be used effectively, in the same way that counseling, or therapy, or even diet plans are. It's typically not the method that is the deficient factor as much as the person needing the help. |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by batman on 02/01/19 at 09:47:48 "remember you can never fix what only God can fix" -What would that be????? As for a genuine focus on others; Love thy neighbor, as thyself -kind of covers that for me. |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by T And T Garage on 02/01/19 at 09:49:15 47445148444B111D250 wrote:
The platypus...? |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by raydawg on 02/01/19 at 10:35:44 6444464E5344210 wrote:
For me, and that is the only witness I can give, is through God I could do what I wasn't able to do by myself.....and boy howdy did I try, for decades. My sincerity was genuine, and I wanted to stop my destructive behavior associated with drinking, a addiction. I truly thought I loved those around me, who I was hurting. I cared a lot about how they felt, and I didn't want to hurt them, I didn't. However, I cared about myself, more, and as you alluded to in your post, its all about the true witness of anyone of us, our actions...... And my action was I continued to drink, plain and simple, the God awful truth..... My truth was my perception, or my perception, was my truth.....does it make any difference? Not until I got out of myself, honestly, harshly, brutally, did I even begin to glimpse the true reality of my actions. I wanted to believe what I wanted to believe, because it gave me control, comfort, peace, however, all of that was a facade based on a false reality, script, and self propaganda, and it allowed me to do what I wanted to do, get drunk. I was extremely lucky, in a odd sort of way, my coming to understand, came instantly, after I surrendered to the truth of who I was..... I was blessed with a new spirit, a whole new meaning, new understanding, that only took almost 50 years ;D Everyone of us is unique, its what we say we celebrate, but do we.....??? Seems lots of folk find their comfort in being in the herd, that is their affirmation. My life, witness, who I am, is unique unto me, and I was created to be this person I am......even if it escapes me, my journey is to find him, my quest. Our cosmos would cease to exist if every man though of himself, as the utmost important, as conflict would result with threat of their person hood, its not a physically sustainable condition.....if not by myself, then a herd, a army, a...? If it were, then why in all the years man has walked this planet, has it never been achieved? Is it right to judge anyone based on our own preconceived notion and assumptions? To what end....to stay in our beliefs, our comfort zone, to what we've been told to believe? Or, by their actions, their testimony, their witness? And finally, yes, much failure, lies, cheating and self promotion lie within the "church" as outside the church......for it is all human, each and everyone of us. My hope is in not judging and scorning those who sin like me, no, but too offer a glimpse of possibility to not become entrapped, and beholden to the things in life, that can remove peace and joy, simply, in your lives.... If through a spiritual awakening WITHIN one self, and a relationship with that spirit who talks directly to you, achieves it, bearing the fruit of witness through actions, to me that is a wonderful thing to be herald. Isn't that what any of us really hope for anyway, peace in this world, which begins with peace of self? Again, thanks for your sincerity in asking and sharing your thoughts on the matter of spirituality..... I PRAY ;D I was able to help explain maybe some of it through what it has meant to, and done for me......THANKS! :) |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by raydawg on 02/01/19 at 10:36:37 5D5E4B525E510B073F0 wrote:
Harder to do, than to recite ;) Thank you! :) |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by T And T Garage on 02/01/19 at 10:52:07 66657069656A303C040 wrote:
The Golden Rule is what it's all about - well put Batman. |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by batman on 02/01/19 at 11:12:13 Raydawg, If you've been helped by your relationship with God ,that makes me extremely happy! I believe Eegore is correct in saying that Religion can be as effective as any other form of counseling or therapy ,maybe more so . We are all different ,and seek our own path . If yours is through Christ ,then all I wish to say is ,God bless you! |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by Serowbot on 02/01/19 at 12:00:45 “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” [ch8213] Arthur C. Clarke |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by raydawg on 02/01/19 at 12:29:56 292A3F262A257F734B0 wrote:
Thank you Batman.......but let me make this very clear, yes, I have been blessed without ceasing, not deserving, but extremely appreciative. However, the greatest joy I now experience is to see, to witness, the joy and happiness in my relationships restored. It is so rejuvenating and motivating, to watch that I no longer cause hurt, and pain, in the ones I love with all my heart. Heck yes I wanna be the winning quarterback in the Superbowl, I will always have that "need"...... But just like a kid on Christmas day, who got that gift I had so dearly wanted, couldn't live without, wanted to brag about with my buddies, by New Years day, that joy and happiness was fleeting. Watching the sustainable joy and happiness in others, it never, ever, gets tiresome. One last thing if I may..... When I went to my first ever AA meeting, hearing others share their stories of addiction, etc, it resonated in such a manner that I could now see things differently. I once thought my story was so different, that it wasn't possible that anybody else on this planet could understand, relate.......OH MERCY, was I ever wrong. Their selfless sharing, putting aside their pride, shame, and ego, was really the starting block for me, and their wiliness to listen, and share, as I asked more questions, was indeed a very important component to getting my life where I so wanted it to be :) In a nutshell, you give, to get.........! Thanks, I hope you too find you hearts joy and happiness wherever you look, as well. :) |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by batman on 02/01/19 at 16:39:34 Raydawg , Your on the mend, if your restoring the joy and happiness in your relationships ,then your mistaken, your ARE deserving! |
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Title: Re: So many addicts, addictions...... Post by raydawg on 02/01/19 at 20:03:03 2E2D38212D2278744C0 wrote:
:-* thanks! |
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