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Message started by raydawg on 02/10/19 at 09:37:02

Title: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by raydawg on 02/10/19 at 09:37:02

Oh I love this today.....

Look, people COME HERE, to post, to say their own STUFF.......

Does it pass this test of bettering others?

The tongue that brings healing is a tree of life, but a deceitful tongue crushes the spirit.
—Proverbs 15:4

 

Words are powerful. Communicators know this. Negotiators know this. Deep down, you know this. Words have blessed you and words have devastated you. The healing that comes from a kind and tender word is precious. The destruction of a cruel taunt or a well-told deception is crushing. To have such power is amazing. To use this awesome power found in our speech is an awesome responsibility. Words do have the power to give life, hope, and peace when offered in love......

Let's speak that word today!
  ;D ;D :)

All have a great and wonderful day....PEACE!  :)

(words are not mine highlighted, but copied from VOD.)

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by T And T Garage on 02/11/19 at 05:39:14

Sorry ray, but there are no stipulations to better - that should be a personal goal, not this forum's mandate (have you not seen any of the history on here?).

Moreover:

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.



Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by Eegore on 02/11/19 at 06:09:47

 I don't think Ray is saying that the forum permissions should be modified to meet his personal religious beliefs.

 Its more of a question presented and less of a request.

 I can say forum communication is a bit of a sensitive issue here, I was just asking a question to someone here about what their personal criteria was for avoiding or using personal insults against other members - a topic that person brought up - and the thread was deleted.  

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by MShipley on 02/11/19 at 06:48:06

" the tongue is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell................. No man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison..............with the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness."

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by Serowbot on 02/11/19 at 07:04:52


5777757D6077120 wrote:

 I can say forum communication is a bit of a sensitive issue here, I was just asking a question to someone here about what their personal criteria was for avoiding or using personal insults against other members - a topic that person brought up - and the thread was deleted.  


If that's the thread I'm thinking of, it was deleted at the OP's request.
Nothing you said.

Serow

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by Eegore on 02/11/19 at 07:18:47


"If that's the thread I'm thinking of, it was deleted at the OP's request.
Nothing you said."


 Actually I do believe you are correct.  I was asked not to reply, another indicator that it's ok for one person to say something, as long as the replies are perceived as being one's that are wanted to be heard.  If it's not then just keep your opinion to yourself type of thing.

 Not sure why that is, this is a public forum after all.

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by Serowbot on 02/11/19 at 08:03:03

I'll consider that from now on.   8-)

Of course, the OP always has the option of deleting his/her own posts within the thread and rendering most replies unintelligible...

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by raydawg on 02/11/19 at 08:09:44

My OP was directed not at anyone but a general observation, nor was it intended to be law or rule in governing speech.....

I hoped to call attention to how expression has the capacity to do things way greater than just mere words from a mouth.

We see currently how some peoples words direct emotions, hurt, fear, scorn, etc, depending on who says it, the format, the forum, etc.

Like salt, its up to everybody to decide how much flavor their lives need to be satisfying....everyone's  palate of life is different, taste by taste, so many varying elements needed to decide each ones.....

I can't decide for you, nor you me.......
All I tried to do was open the doors to the spice cabinet  :)

Sorry for any confusion....now, ya all have a great day....PEACE and JOY!

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by T And T Garage on 02/11/19 at 12:23:41

Ok then - since no one else has brought this up, I will.

ray - it's obvious you've changed your posting behaviour on the Tall Table - good on you.  But I'm curious - how is it that you've so immediately become so sanctimonious?

I saw no apology/atonement for your prior posts.  One to me in particular - the "14 year old girl" insinuation.

Listen, it's no sweat off me if you never do - but in my mind, this sudden onslaught of piety seems a little disingenuous.

From your history, you've shared that you've been in AA for years - good on you.  But all the people I've ever known (in that process) make amends, and I just haven't seen that.

Again, fine if you don't want to, but it makes me question your sincerity.

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by raydawg on 02/11/19 at 14:29:15

I would simply say I stepped back and observed interactions on this board for a spell, and yes, that meant I too had to own my part in this interactions.
One thing, a common thread, I noticed, was I believe I saw that everybody wanted the same thing, joy, peace, harmony, happiness, but for all sorts of reasons, folks seemed to have a differing of achieving it.
I made a conscious choice to not become the participant that I found fault in others, even tho I could readily justify MY behavior, etc...... in my eyes, but that only feeds the adage, and reasoning behind, "doing the same thing over, and over again, expecting different results.
So in effect, I stepped off that merry go round, or lets say, I am trying too  ;D

I could go on, and on, and on....suffice to say, as I am stuck inside with little to do, as this dang snow just won't let up.

I shared once that I was a member of a fishing board, down in southern California, that had a politics board like this.
And like this, but with a much bigger and active membership, it would often spill out of control......with emotions.
Trying to solve anything, while under any emotional strain, influence, is just not a very solid platform to try and reach resolutions to any given issue or cause....

This place is tame, compared to it, honest!  :o

Long story short, and I will try and wrap it up with this.....
Some of the more level heads decided we need to get out from behind the keyboard, and meet face to face, and live life as it was meant to be shared, in person, where communication is best served....

We chartered a big fishing boat, 65 of us, more wanted to come, but it was first come, first served, or more like it, who really had a sack to face their own fears and preconceived notions, of others, while being revealed, yourself......

We had a great time, friendships that I still enjoy to this day, with LOSERS.....was the resulting.

You all can fill in the reasons as to why.

And finally, two things TT......maybe 3, and I hope you digest what I say before reacting to it.

1. If I hurt you in anyway that you believe I crossed a line, I am sorry, that was never my attentions, and hope you can release any animosity my actions have caused you to harbor.

2. I have shared this a lot, here in this form, and have defaulted to it many, many times, when I feel the hair on the back of my neck, starting to rise.....expectations are premeditated resentments

3. And mamma always told me, "if I can't stand the heat in the kitchen, then get the heck out" as she was not about to turn the stove off and let everyone starve, because I was hot...  ;)

OK, and lastly, I want to be a better person, simply put, and like flying in a airplane that suddenly loses cabin pressure, you must put on your own oxygen mask first.....before you can help anyone, WHICH....is why I think any of us, come here in the first place  :)


WHEW....... thanks all, be happy, its a choice each of us have control over!    
       

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by LostArtist on 02/11/19 at 15:16:38

since someone is airing out grievances on private messages, to set the record clear in public:

Sender: LostArtist
To: Eegore
Subject: been thinking
Date: 01/29/19 at 09:14:16
so, you should know, "our" thread was deleted because I asked for it to be closed. I used the word closed, thinking the mods would lock it, but I'm okay with it being deleted. We weren't getting anywhere. please don't reply to this, just don't blame anyone but me, I started the thread, I asked for it to be ended.  

All the best,
Mike




Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by thumperclone on 02/11/19 at 15:48:49

talk is cheap
words can't make you bleed
bad deeds can..

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by T And T Garage on 02/11/19 at 15:58:16


687B637E7B6D7D1A0 wrote:
I would simply say I stepped back and observed interactions on this board for a spell, and yes, that meant I too had to own my part in this interactions.
One thing, a common thread, I noticed, was I believe I saw that everybody wanted the same thing, joy, peace, harmony, happiness, but for all sorts of reasons, folks seemed to have a differing of achieving it.
I made a conscious choice to not become the participant that I found fault in others, even tho I could readily justify MY behavior, etc...... in my eyes, but that only feeds the adage, and reasoning behind, "doing the same thing over, and over again, expecting different results.
So in effect, I stepped off that merry go round, or lets say, I am trying too  ;D

I could go on, and on, and on....suffice to say, as I am stuck inside with little to do, as this dang snow just won't let up.

I shared once that I was a member of a fishing board, down in southern California, that had a politics board like this.
And like this, but with a much bigger and active membership, it would often spill out of control......with emotions.
Trying to solve anything, while under any emotional strain, influence, is just not a very solid platform to try and reach resolutions to any given issue or cause....

This place is tame, compared to it, honest!  :o

Long story short, and I will try and wrap it up with this.....
Some of the more level heads decided we need to get out from behind the keyboard, and meet face to face, and live life as it was meant to be shared, in person, where communication is best served....

We chartered a big fishing boat, 65 of us, more wanted to come, but it was first come, first served, or more like it, who really had a sack to face their own fears and preconceived notions, of others, while being revealed, yourself......

We had a great time, friendships that I still enjoy to this day, with LOSERS.....was the resulting.

You all can fill in the reasons as to why.

And finally, two things TT......maybe 3, and I hope you digest what I say before reacting to it.

1. If I hurt you in anyway that you believe I crossed a line, I am sorry, that was never my attentions, and hope you can release any animosity my actions have caused you to harbor.

2. I have shared this a lot, here in this form, and have defaulted to it many, many times, when I feel the hair on the back of my neck, starting to rise.....expectations are premeditated resentments

3. And mamma always told me, "if I can't stand the heat in the kitchen, then get the heck out" as she was not about to turn the stove off and let everyone starve, because I was hot...  ;)

OK, and lastly, I want to be a better person, simply put, and like flying in a airplane that suddenly loses cabin pressure, you must put on your own oxygen mask first.....before you can help anyone, WHICH....is why I think any of us, come here in the first place  :)


WHEW....... thanks all, be happy, its a choice each of us have control over!    



Again, good on you.  Thanks Ray - that was all I needed to hear.

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by raydawg on 02/11/19 at 17:13:02

awesome......

power is going off and on, seems they missed this forecast too, another 8 to 10 fell thus far today, with another 12 hours or so till this front is gone.
We so not do this sorta stuff.

I am starting to sweat my work shed roofs, etc, I did not build them for this sort of snow load....YIKES.

BE HAPPY  :)

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by verslagen1 on 02/12/19 at 07:20:49

I didn't know electricity freezes.   ;)

Title: Re: Watch yer mouth....I mean it!
Post by raydawg on 02/12/19 at 08:39:48


716275746B6660626936070 wrote:
I didn't know electricity freezes.   ;)


C'mon MJ.....who is moderating your moderators?  ;D

YES....the melt is on, FINALLY!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D :D

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