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Message started by MMRanch on 09/10/19 at 08:09:38

Title: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/10/19 at 08:09:38

I just replaced the Rear Tire on the V-7II . So I'm sharing information on how the old one did.
Now keep in mind : I usually beat what-ever is beside me away from any and all red lights .
I have been know to ride with the likes of Dave , Stew and the type on mountain roads.

So, your millage may vary .

here is a picture of a AM26 with 8,200 miles on it.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/10/19 at 08:12:14

Here is a picture of a me 888 with 7,000 miles on the same driving habits for comparison ..

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Serowbot on 09/10/19 at 08:32:50

That seems less than impressive for pretty expensive tires. :-?

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Dave on 09/10/19 at 09:57:49

I am slowly coming to the conclusion.......that I am going to have to accept that I will only get 6 - 8,000 miles out of my tires. Some folks can get far more - but they ride far slower and are not scrubbing rubber off the tire when they corner. I don't often break the speed limits or accelerate quickly....but I ignore the little yellow suggested speed signs when I corner and go around the curve at a brisk pace (while hopefully leaving some reserve for braking or steering if I need to avoid an obstacle or car in my lane).

On the bright side....it could be worse. I have friends that ride sport bikes very aggressively, and they can wear out a tire in a 5 day trip to the mountains....sometimes they mount 3 sets of tires a summer! The tires they buy are very sticky and wear quickly.

If you want to play.......you have to pay! ;)

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by springman on 09/10/19 at 11:56:36

Dang MM. I guess most anybody else would probably get at least 12K miles! ;)

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/10/19 at 13:37:40

How are those Shinko tires doing ,,, I like the looks of the 777 :-?

I put one of these on when the AM26 came off , but I suspect it won't last long. Nankang 5.10H

The profile looked flater in the picture and the middle always goes first in my world. ::)
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Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/10/19 at 14:12:27

this looks like a better profile.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Serowbot on 09/10/19 at 14:14:41

Never seen even a crotch rocket that didn't wear the center out first.
We either need harder centers or chewier outsides.
Maybe a candy maker could figure it out. :-?

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/10/19 at 14:31:08

That seems less than impressive for pretty expensive tires.

Yea Bot , I'm thinking the lower price don't necessary mean less tire !

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Dave on 09/10/19 at 15:03:40

7264736E76636E75010 wrote:

Never seen even a crotch rocket that didn't wear the center out first.
We either need harder centers or chewier outsides.
Maybe a candy maker could figure it out. :-?

When MM and I were at the Dragon earlier this year and I was getting a new tire, a couple fellows came in for tires and the rear had plenty of tread in the center.......but the sides were gone. He rides the Dragon aggressively and scrubs lots of rubber off the sides. (He and I should rotate tires and he can wear out the sides and I can wear out the center).

They do make sport touring and sport bike tires with a hard center compound and a soft side compound. The sport touring tires are a bit harder than the sport versions. When I use them they don't stay very rounded looking....the center gets a narrow flat spot and the sides wear in wide flat spots with a sharp angle where the soft and hard compounds meet.

MM does a very good job of wearing the back tires out evenly across the tread.....I never seem to be able to do that. The only tire I know of that will fit MM's bike that is a multi compound is the Bridgestone Battlax BT45, and I am not too impressed with it as the front tire has a diamond pattern on the sides and it wears crooked and gets noisy in the turns. The dual compound rear was evident on the one mounted on the Ninja 250 - both of them I had on the Savage Cafe never showed the hard/soft joint and wore the centers out at 6,000 miles.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Dave on 09/10/19 at 15:05:17

716371636E7D727F743C0 wrote:

this looks like a better profile.

That tire with the flat tread profile is not likely mounted on a rim and inflated. It is hard to ride on them without rims or air!

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Serowbot on 09/10/19 at 15:28:50

When I rode a dual-sport I used to buy IRC GP-110 tires, specifically because the knobs overlap down the center, giving more rubber down the point of heaviest wear.
Other tires would not only wear out fast but the center knobs would become cupped creating a shuddering ride.
http://https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/260888754941-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
What I like about the Shinko 712, is the solid rubber down that center strip... It's not an especially hard compound tire but at least the wear point has full rubber.
It's actually one of the lightest tires available so rubber is not as thick as say, Metzler,... but it's a lot cheaper and less unsprung weight.
http://https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/419X6oiEsHL.jpg.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/10/19 at 18:31:44

How satisfied with wet handling have you been?

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Dave on 09/10/19 at 18:42:16

233C3A3D20271626162E3C307B490 wrote:

How satisfied with wet handling have you been?

Serowbot lives in the Desert!

I wonder if he has ever ridden in the rain? :-?

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/10/19 at 18:51:20

Dear MM

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746B6D6A7770417141796B672C1E0 wrote:

How satisfied with wet handling have you been?

Dave, you're just ticked off because you question my sincerity about my mourning the end of tiny pics and the resulting loss of your excellent posts.
hat over my heart..

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Dave on 09/11/19 at 07:09:44

Naaaaaawww....not ticked off.

Just trying to have fun with ya.....with Serowbot taking the heat (since he just experienced 110 degrees it seemed appropriate).

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/11/19 at 07:27:57

Raw text, no tone or inflection,.
I've seen people get in real, drama filled arguments after texting. Just because someone was unable to read in a friendly tone of voice..
Embarrassing..
I'm cool
I knew you were just having a bit of fun.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Serowbot on 09/11/19 at 08:33:35

You're right,...
I don't ride in rain much,.. and when I do it's by accident.
In my limited experience, motorcycles have very little grip in rain no matter what tires you use.
It's the two wheel thing.
A couple of square inches road contact front and rear then add water and you've got a recipe for extreme caution or disaster...
How much rain are going to redirect via a raingroove on a 2 inch contact patch of tire?...
Not much...

If I suspect rain,.. I take the car... ;D

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/11/19 at 08:58:03

How satisfied with wet handling have you been?

Those AM26 Avons are GREAT handling tires . On the front they seem to last forever . I was hope-ing they would last longer on the rear. The original Sport Demon (rear) only lasted 5,000 miles and wasn't any better handling than the 8,000 mile AM26. fact is : I'm not sure the Sport Demon was as good as the AM26 ???

This new Nankang is untried as of yet but I'm going two towns over to get a hair cut on it today ... ::)

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/11/19 at 10:40:38

Thanks MM.

PHHHT, Dave.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/11/19 at 15:19:31

OK , guys

The Nankang is NOT A RAIN TIRE . I ran into some light rain and wet roads on the way home.
Ya know how before a lot of rain washes to oils off but the surface oils just get wet and floats the oils a little. Well that was the case today .
I guess any tire would have been slipping and sliding around so maybe I shouldn't "Black-Ball" the Nankang so quick , but things sure were slippery on the way home. :-[

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/11/19 at 15:24:36

My metzler 880 rear delivered almost 8,000 miles, but it was spooky AF on wet roads. I found a wide sweeper and hit it a few times and had the rear out, playing With the gas,,, spooky..

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/11/19 at 19:33:49

You know , as long as the front tire stays planted good the rear don't have to behave so much. Today they both were sliding around a bit. I've got a Am26 on the front but we never did get enough rain to wash the oil off good.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by springman on 09/11/19 at 20:20:30

I don't have many curves to ride around here and try not to ride in the rain, but so far I have to say the Shinkos grip well in both dry and wet weather. I really do not know how may miles I have on my current rear 712 but it is holding up nicely. The front which is a 230 must have over 12K miles on it and it is also still looking good.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Dave on 09/12/19 at 04:54:40

There are a lot of tires available that have a solid center strip, and that does have a downside as it makes it hard to judge how much rubber is left.

This tire looked like it would last for a 4 day trip with MM....I likely would be riding less than 1,000 miles. Unfortunately it was down to the casing rubber in 1.5 days and 500 miles.

https://imgur.com/uTuQk7C

I tried to post a link using imgur - and now my work computer is being blocked by the forum. I had to type everything below the imgur link using my phone.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/12/19 at 09:29:57

Hay , I was all set for getting a Skinko 712 and while looking for the best $$ with shipping I came across the Nankang , so here I am giving it a try ? I remember OldFeller having a Nankang car tire on his that he just couldn't wear out , so on a spur of the moment thing . Well , "ya don't know till ya check it out " ;D

The V-7 being the "WE" bike , it might take a L O N G T I M E to wear it out. ;)

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/12/19 at 22:18:37

This thing is Not Holding Air. Even with 6 ozs of green slime in it it still goes down over night ???

I going to order a 712 ,

and give this tire to the first 17" rim that needs a tube that comes along.

>:(

I don't remember who I got it from ... but pay-pal will ...

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by badwolf on 09/13/19 at 04:21:26

Mike, Check the writing on the sidewall, if it says ''tube type'' it won't hold air without one. It's the way and materials it's made from. Old school !

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by Dave on 09/13/19 at 04:47:49

Soapy water.....see where the tire is blowing bubbles.

Might as well wash the bike while you have the soapy water in the bucket! ;)

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by MMRanch on 09/13/19 at 08:17:00

The add I bought it from said " Tubeless" but I didn't read the tire YET ?

I've got a 712 on the way , but still it takes about 2 hours to take it off and put a new one on.

Title: Re: AM26 R Tire
Post by springman on 09/13/19 at 13:02:52

Sorry to hear that.