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Message started by MnSpring on 09/22/21 at 16:38:39

Title: Liberties lost
Post by MnSpring on 09/22/21 at 16:38:39

"Tell me, just what liberties have you lost?"

Was the question by a member here.
(In Essence)

So I found this.
Well written, and I also found out,
that phrase;
"just what liberties have you lost?"
Is one of the standard talking points,
used by Socialists when trying to convert.

" ... for one thing, it is impossible to describe erosion in precise terms. It is like asking a sexagenarian, "Just what abilities have you lost?" "Well," he reflects, "I can see, hear, smell, taste, feel, remember, think, walk, run, play golf - why, there are no lost abilities. I can do everything I could do in my youth." Yet, further reflection will reveal an erosion of most abilities. He has to wear glasses; his false teeth aren't quite as efficient as the teeth he once had; his walk isn't as spry; if he runs, he runs out of breath; his golf swing takes more out of him but puts less on the ball; and, frankly, his memory has lost some of its keenness. But how to be precise in describing these erosion's? ..."

" ... However innocently asked, "Just what liberties have you lost?" is a trick question. ... "

" ... A logical and sensible response would be in the form of a rebuttal question, "Do you happen to have at the tip of your tongue a list of all the restraints to productive and creative action imposed by the federal government, the fifty state governments, and the more than 200,000 other units of government during the last thirty years? If you will recite these restraints, you will accurately answer your own question."

The list, is enormous.

Never mind the recent,
'Mush for Brains', proposal to hire TWICE as many,
IRA agents than are currently employed.

To TRACK your every financial move.
Under another common 'Socialistic' talking point.
"For The Good Of All"

Title: Re: Liberties lost
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/22/21 at 19:13:41

Sometimes it's really hard to explain the obvious.
That was good.

Title: Re: Liberties lost
Post by Eegore on 09/30/21 at 07:22:46

Ahh the old "Clichés of Socialism" from 1970.

I think part of the issue is that people at some point resist change and the selected portion, while proving a point that most everyone does not actively maintain a memorized log of every law action in the country, it also allows for a more specified question:

"Do you happen to have at the tip of your tongue a list of all the restraints to productive and creative action imposed by the federal government, the fifty state governments, and the more than 200,000 other units of government during the last thirty years?"

What are "restraints to productive and creative action" to you?

What of those liberties, in your local, State or Federal Government has within your lifetime, been removed?

So now we have a way to clearly answer that. Take your definition of restraint to productive and creative action and apply it to laws enacted within the span of years you are alive. Then apply it to your complaint. Post here what laws have done this to you, and then the question is answered.

To pretend anyone can, on the tip of their tongue, recite all law in the US is purposefully combative. People should be allowed to research and provide reference to answer such questions.