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Title: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/21 at 13:41:22 https://fox17.com/news/nation-world/we-do-exist-some-americans-suffer-life-changing-covid-vaccine-injuries I'm SURE they are all lies. Covid was not ever the second coming of the black plague. The odds of getting it weren't that bad. The odds of dying from it were frikkin Low. People who died WITH it were put in the Died From it column. Soft soap applied That is standard operating procedure. When stupid is standard You get the government we have. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/24/21 at 14:00:46 People who died WITH it were put in the Died From it column. Saying over and over doesn't make it true. In CO we have an alternate counting system for this reason. Is it perfect? No more than the systems anywhere else, but this BS of claiming people that fell down a cliff are Covid deaths isn't fooling anyone. But as long as we refuse to look at actual death certificates we can keep claiming that people falling off cliffs are Covid deaths. Nobody here said side-effects weren't happening, or claimed anyone was lying about side effects. The lies are when people manipulate numbers hoping you will just go with it and not even read the source. In the first phase of vaccinations at one facility in our network we had 4 major side effects. 86,000 people were vaccinated in that timeframe. So we should just talk about those 4 side-effects, only them, not anything about the 86 Thousand that had no issues? This is like people trying to outlaw motorcycles by constantly bringing up all the motorcycle injuries and deaths. Literally every day we could post a new motorcycle injury or death. Of course it would be ok to leave out the thousands and thousands of people riding daily with no issues right? Motorcycles are dangerous. Every day proof of this could be provided. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 12/24/21 at 16:09:08 79595B534E593C0 wrote:
Yet, it is perfectly OK and Correct, when it is said about Firearms. (Or when, allowing the major brand mart-marts & Big Box Stores to stay open. When their can be NO SCHOOL, or gathering for, Weddings, Funerals, Reunions. No Mom & Pop businesses, etc. Because that will Stop the spread of the China Manufactured c-19) |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/21 at 17:22:00 I know you can't remember when The Jab was THE ANSWER. Safe, good stuff, effective, too! The JABBED are in hospital. We were told Get the jab! Safe and effective Not Yeah, you're still going to get it You will still be passing it on You will still go to hospital And die. You can bullshit YOU But You can't bullshit me. https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/athlete-collapsesdeaths-following |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/21 at 19:38:33 mRNA Vaccine Inventor Issues Warning To Parents: Do Not Give Children ‘Unproven Vaccines’ That May Permanently Damage Organs, Reproductive System, Immunity By Alicia Powe Published December 24, 2021 at 7:15am 717 Comments Share Tweet Gab Share Telegram Telegram Clouthub Share The physician who invented the mRNA technology contained in COVID vaccines is urging all parents to abstain from vaccinating their children with the “irreversible” inoculation that could permanently damage their critical organs, reproductive systems and immune systems. The public is being misled about the vaccine’s efficacy and effects, warns Dr. Robert Malone, the Chief Medical and Regulatory Officer for The Unity Project who invented messenger mRNA therapeutics in 1988. The proud inventor is urging extreme caution As in don't stick the kids. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/24/21 at 19:42:00 "Yet, it is perfectly OK and Correct, when it is said about Firearms." Incorrect. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/24/21 at 19:54:35 "I know you can't remember when The Jab was THE ANSWER. Safe, good stuff, effective, too!" Again - I present actual evidence. Data. Information. Not CNN stories, YouTube clips, press conferences etc. Who cares what Biden said on TV. The data I presented actually fully disclosed the usage of minimum grade probability statistics versus full scale clinical trials. Nobody there claimed the vaccine was 100% safe and effective and was the end all magic cure for all things Covid. SARS has no long term vaccine, no version in any form. the ratios predicted there are very close to what we have now. "The JABBED are in hospital." Billions are not. Billions. Billions of people didn't get hospitalized. Just keep ignoring that part though. Open discussion and search for truth, except for the Billions of people that weren't hospitalized - that part doesn't count. Ignore it. "You will still go to hospital And die." Incorrect. Again lets ignore the reduced mortality rates for infected. Pretend if you get a vaccine you die anyway. Don't look at the verifiable information because once we observe it then it might actually be part of observed reality. Ignore it. You can bullshit YOU But You can't bullshit me. But people making up lies about 1 in 100 dying or being hospitalized for cardiac issues can BS you just fine. They even give you information that directly contradicts that claim. Yes athletes are dying. Yes specific demographics should not be taking a specific version of the vaccine. But do you really think you are going to convince us that Billions of people aren't dying? They are in the hospital? 1 in 100 people hospitalized would have crippled the US medical system already with thousands and thousands of dead. Use the actual math, stop embellishing, nobody is fooled. Billions are just fine, we need to fix issues with the actual people at risk. This is the interesting part. Its terrible to enact lockdowns when only a small percentage of the population are at risk, and bad to inflate death counts to make it seem like things are worse than they are. How dare they not use facts. But it's also ok to inflate vaccination death counts to make it seem like more people are at risk, and blindly accept that 1 in 100 die or get hospitalized to make it seem like things are worse than they are. Facts not needed on that one. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/25/21 at 01:41:47 You're wasting your time. I actually don't care what you say about it. I'm posting stuff. Don't read it. YOU say what you believe is true. Believe what you want. You post information,, delivered up,, by Honest sources. According to You. I REMEMBER watching the Died OF Covid numbers being inflated. We saw how you worked so hard to make it seem like it was not so. You blew off VAERS Oh,Well, anyone can report on that. Well, who does? It's only illegal to file a false event. And it's hard,and the Establishment doesn't WANT IT DONE, so it is Under Reporting. Yeah, athletes are dying, but? But What, E? My wife works in a hospital and they are tight lipped about causes,but the stories about people admitted because of clots in their lungs? You mean that thing that was a two times a year thing is now something they are seeing regularly now, I'm supposed to not connect those dots? You seriously expect me to pretend, after watching the dead from covid numbers being inflated, and WATCHING the sheer desperation of the government trying to get everyone jabbed,,you think people should trust the numbers? You think anyone should listen to anything the government says? Why? Why would I? They aren't doing anything for me. Or you,. Nobody suffers when the jab kills or wounds, and even with VAERS, under reporting, it's THE WORST PERFORMANCE ever. So, you just run along and play cheerleader for Fauci and Brandon somewhere else. Because I don't believe the wonderful things you seem to believe. The odds of GETTING it weren't so terrible.. The odds of Dying from it were really low. So, they pretended it was the second coming of the black plague instead of Doing it smart. Targeting people to live according to their risk level. You Know, like some college professors, epidemiology, ohh,what do they know? And email between Fauci and others setting out to squash them, deny the CONVERSATION, tyrannical little pregnant dog.. BILLIONS weren't in the hospital dying from covid. You act like the ruined lives and the dead TODAY is okay, would have been worse without the jab. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. And I say it's a Damm tight race. And, because of the long term effects of the jab, the pain and misery in lives because of the lockdown being done So Hamfisted, medical issues not addressed, suicide, all the hurtful things from school closing, the economy, the way it was all done was, well, the worst way they could have done it. Everything they did was STUPID, You trust your government, you go ahead. I don't. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/25/21 at 04:30:11 "You're wasting your time. I actually don't care what you say about it. I'm posting stuff. Don't read it. YOU say what you believe is true. Believe what you want." The difference is I read what you post. How did I know the reference you provided actually didn't have a calculated value of 1 out of 100? Because I actually read your information and did the math. "I REMEMBER watching the Died OF Covid numbers being inflated. We saw how you worked so hard to make it seem like it was not so." What was referenced here were statements anyone could just make up. I provided actual documentation of actual death certificates. If I didn't think the provisional data was inaccurate why would I work on the alternate counting system in CO? I said it would happen, and now it exists. That's literally the opposite of working hard to "make it seem like it was not so". "You blew off VAERS Oh,Well, anyone can report on that. Well, who does? It's only illegal to file a false event. And it's hard,and the Establishment doesn't WANT IT DONE, so it is Under Reporting." Reporting on VAERS doesn't fall under 18 U.S. Code § 1001. It's a no fault program. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001 the inclusion of events in VAERS data does not imply causality You act like total reports are to be taken as fact. The number from VAERS is the numerator of a fraction. What is the denominator? You conveniently leave that out. Nobody is fooled by that. That's not an opinion, its math. "Yeah, athletes are dying, but? But What, E?" Stop omitting the healthy. Use both and create an accurate ratio. That's it. Expecting people to ignore the other half of a mathematical equation is ridiculous. Why are you leaving out the other outcomes? "You think anyone should listen to anything the government says? Why? Why would I?" No I've actually said the opposite of that. But since when do you use my actual words instead of imagining up things I didn't say? Provide one example of me stating Fauci, or whoever "Brandon" is, should be listened to. What I am saying is 1 in 100 cardiac events is highly unrealistic because no other evidence exists to support it, like humans with heart issues at that ratio. Plus the document you offered to show it - doesn't. All this trust in the Government nonsense, I never said that. I actually stated that I use a multiple-check system to verify on a minimum of 3 alternate sources. I promoted and used it when I worked in the ICS. That's the opposite of agreeing to what I am told by the Government. What I say is you cherry-pick information. You won't use CDC data... unless there's a CDC document that supports your opinion, then that one time, it's ok to use CDC data. You don't get that? You don't see that you criticize others ("Others" being all known humans besides JoG) for using CDC information, then you do it too. You expect us ("us" being all known humans besides JoG) to ignore some of the pretty inaccurate information you provide. You posted a video that says the exact opposite of the written documentation you provided. You want us ("us" being all now humans besides JoG) to just pretend that didn't just happen? I know this because I read the references you post. You don't know that because you don't read the references you post. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 12/25/21 at 10:27:24 The numbers say you are 15 times less likely. Nothing is 100%. I'll take those odds. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 12/25/21 at 11:52:56 624240485542270 wrote:
Would that be like, (“them”, being all known humans that want to ban firearms), ignoring the FACTUAL information about Firearms ? That banning a model of a Firearm because a crazy person used one will not stop that crime ? That ‘red’ laws will encourage Gun Haters to make up crap about someone they don’t like, just because they have a Firearm ? That more Firearms = less Crime ? That allowing Citizens to carry Firearms, reduces crime in that area ? That Banning Citizens to carry Firearms, INCREASES crime in that area ? And ON, and On, and on ! |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/25/21 at 15:27:42 Would that be like, (“them”, being all known humans that want to ban firearms), ignoring the FACTUAL information about Firearms ? That banning a model of a Firearm because a crazy person used one will not stop that crime ? That ‘red’ laws will encourage Gun Haters to make up crap about someone they don’t like, just because they have a Firearm ? That more Firearms = less Crime ? That allowing Citizens to carry Firearms, reduces crime in that area ? That Banning Citizens to carry Firearms, INCREASES crime in that area ? And ON, and On, and on ! Yes. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/21 at 03:51:49 https://jembendell.com/2021/12/23/lies-darn-lies-and-hospitalisation-statistics/ I didn't say I won't read it. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 12/26/21 at 07:24:19 " ... they prefer to use a ratio of vaccinated, to unvaccinated people, who show up at a hospital ... " Rather telling ! |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/21 at 10:57:22 The Follow the Science crowd are telling us the numbers. Pro pharma Scientists,, trust the numbers. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 12/26/21 at 11:16:39 Quote:
... and then there are those that find the facts to support what they want to believe. You don't see the hypocrisy in that? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/21 at 12:12:30 Nope. I FIND EVIDENCE to support what I believe. I don't get Told what to believe. I know what I see and when observed reality doesn't align with the narrative, I call the narrative bullshit. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 12/26/21 at 13:03:58 There are 800,000 people you didn't personally see die. Have you personally seen any? Did the moon landings actually happen? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/21 at 14:12:47 7563746971646972060 wrote:
Ohh,, it's That way.. How many Died OF Covid did You see? Of course we landed on the moon. The FUKKING Rover left tracks. Mirrors left reflect lasers. Keep pretending I'M the idiot. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/26/21 at 19:02:35 Nope. I FIND EVIDENCE to support what I believe. Obviously. This is why you are able to not see a problem with one person (one person being any one human that is not JoG) using a source as information, but then turning around and using that exact same source yourself. It wouldn't be so hypocritical if you argued against the information, but you argue against the source, then use that source yourself. This is how you can ignore over a Billion no-incident vaccinations. It isn't evidence that supports your view, so ignore it and now that it is not observed only bad outcomes are part of your observed reality. Vaccines are now bad for all ages, not just the ages your own source said. This is also how you can sit here and argue that people who do a job know less about it that people sitting at home that have never done the job. Border Patrol is wrong. TX power employees are wrong. Houston medical staff are wrong. ENT surgeons with thousands of ear surgeries - wrong. National Guard wrong. It's not because you know more than all these people who do the job, its because their evidence doesn't support your opinion. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/26/21 at 19:05:20 ... they prefer to use a ratio of vaccinated, to unvaccinated people, who show up at a hospital ... " Rather telling ! How exactly are they going to use numbers of unvaccinated that weren't in the hospital and then call them "patients"? You really think unvaccinated people that never went to a hospital would be called patients? I would not assume when I read a document about patient outcomes that they mean people who never went to a doctor. That doesn't mean the data won't be used inappropriately, but some degree of personal accountability has to exist. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 12/26/21 at 20:46:48 735351594453360 wrote:
Great Spin ! " ... That doesn't mean the data won't be used inappropriately ... " It has, and will be again. " ... some degree of personal accountability has to exist ... " Not going to happen ! Can you explain this ? "... Why have people who tested negative for Covid in hospital got anything to do with an assessment of vaccine effectiveness? ... ": |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/26/21 at 21:06:21 ...and then call them "patients"? ... " Great Spin ! It's "spin" to think people who do not go to a hospital or doctor are not patients? It's like saying a college does a count on "students" but doesn't include everyone in the city. The count is for Students, why would I think they included everyone else? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 12/26/21 at 21:07:16 6B7D6A776F7A776C180 wrote:
Does a armed Citizen, with a gun, Stop a Crime ? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 12/27/21 at 08:40:52 0A291437352E2920470 wrote:
Does a armed Citizen, with a gun, Stop a Crime ? [/quote] You must stir your morning coffee with a gun barrel. :-? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/27/21 at 09:29:07 Rather than expect someone to explain away the stupid. How about understanding that they are pumping bullshit. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/29/21 at 15:09:51 Because who wants to be pumped full of disinformation by someone who doesn't know what they are talking about? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/ready-just-twitter-permanently-suspends-mrna-inventor-dr-robert-malone-tweeting-evidence-showing-vaccines-cause-illness-prevent-just-one-day-set-app/ Dumbass!! What makes Him think His opinion is worth considering? Ohh,wait!!! He's THE GUY who Did the Sighunce. I'm starting to think that the Disinformation they are protecting us from is actually the truth, and they use their platform to LABEL it disinformation, because it doesn't agree with Their narrative. Gee,Wally, why would you think That!?? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/29/21 at 19:13:36 Yeah how dare Twitter have control over their own business. If you watch that video then reference the charts provided how do you come to the conclusion that it's doing the level of damage claimed? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/30/21 at 00:13:21 Was it this thread where I said I didn't care what you say? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 12/30/21 at 08:19:32 6646444C5146230 wrote:
So a Cake Baker, does not, “have control over their own business” ? So a Family Owned, multi state and store business, does not, “have control over their own business” ? So a Company, Family or Corporate owned, which employees over 100 people, does not, “have control over their own business” ? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 12/30/21 at 08:55:03 A cake baker is not allowed to say "No Ni**ers Allowed." There are protections against prejudice. Orientation is protected. Do you really want a segregated society? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/30/21 at 10:49:37 6375627F67727F64100 wrote:
That is RICH!! The left are creating one. Excluding whites is good. You don't know about that? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/30/21 at 13:18:37 So a Cake Baker, does not, “have control over their own business” ? Did the Cake Baker refuse to provide product because the Customer was spreading misinformation? I understand your point but we are talking two different legal avenues, and law is what allows these things to happen. The difference is refusal to provide service due to misinformation is legal. You don't like it? Change law. Complaining will achieve the following: |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/30/21 at 17:46:08 You think YOU or anyone else has the right to squelch someone saying what they believe, because, According to you,or them it's Disinformation? Who IS it that they censored? Some unreliable know nothing? Gee,how about Have the Conversation? Intelligent, educated, credentialed scientists proposed a different approach to dealing with covid. Rather than debate it and consider it, it got squelched. What some people call Disinformation Isn't It just goes against THEIR agenda. Rather than debate and win or lose on the MERITS of their argument They crush the debate. That is so very American. Coff Coff |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/30/21 at 17:47:58 https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg3Aha4IGk1n6NFoHGF09RdOChWTDO_XeASaBI-JpHOQ29pKns7PmhS1naTFTFzl1gIopzglfhwEhvjpoIFq4md6HOSDivt70vXsAXmieYcy112u3Mn55TdfwwoSK-7Uvbn0vDCAJW6Kw9fZgIIArpRgwLHlqfnTgCdD7rOI4Ixl_lrWmcgJMgScToHYQ=w520-h640 https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg3Aha4IGk1n6NFoHGF09RdOChWTDO_XeASaBI-JpHOQ29pKns7PmhS1naTFTFzl1gIopzglfhwEhvjpoIFq4md6HOSDivt70vXsAXmieYcy112u3Mn55TdfwwoSK-7Uvbn0vDCAJW6Kw9fZgIIArpRgwLHlqfnTgCdD7rOI4Ixl_lrWmcgJMgScToHYQ=w520-h640 Ooopsies! Disinformation!! Run Away! Run Away! How about Look AROUND and stop choosing to be a Dupe. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/31/21 at 01:03:14 You think YOU or anyone else has the right to squelch someone saying what they believe, because, According to you,or them it's Disinformation? If they are using My private business to do it? Yeah. Nobody is saying they can't go type anything they want at another business. Do you think this forum owner has to allow us to type anything we want? If the forum owner closed this section of the forum is that a form of oppression? Is it some form of human rights violation to ban a user here? This is why Twitter isn't something we should be using as a primary source of information. They call their business "Live Commentary" not a discussion and debate forum. Twitter is a private business and all people want to do is b!tch that they control what is on there. You think? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/31/21 at 01:34:00 You Know that is bullshit. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/31/21 at 02:02:46 What's bullsh!t is expecting Twitter to function like a public entity when it is a private business. If Twitter banned Biden I doubt the same people would be complaining. Liberal businesses will cater to their client base and limit Conservative activity within the control of that business. But Conservative businesses won't? That's supposed to be something anyone would believe? Why would anyone think Twitter of all businesses will refuse to act in a way that caters towards their largest source of income? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by WebsterMark on 12/31/21 at 06:50:02 Twitter survives solely because conservatives use it to argue against liberals who control the vast majority of the news and entertainment culture. Major conservative public figures complain about Twitter unfairly targeting them (which they absolutely do by the way) yet they will never leave it because it’s a platform for them to stay relevant. If conservatives banded together and abandoned Twitter, it would become largely irrelevant because it would simply become an echo chamber for prime time news. Twitter’s value is great for emerging news from sources on the ground at the moment. The fires in Boulder Colorado for example. It’s also a great source of what corporate news media calls disinformation but as time goes on, a certain percentage turns out to be absolutely true. The trick is figuring out what is crap and what isn’t , not easy. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 12/31/21 at 07:02:37 4565676F7265000 wrote:
Yes and No. The customer did spread misinformation. The customer was not refused because of that. The cake baker was sued because a small amount of vocal UL, Freedom hating, Socialists, took advantage of a small amount of people, pushing very hard to make the pendulum swing the other way. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/31/21 at 11:08:54 "Twitter’s value is great for emerging news from sources on the ground at the moment. The fires in Boulder Colorado for example. It’s also a great source of what corporate news media calls disinformation but as time goes on, a certain percentage turns out to be absolutely true. The trick is figuring out what is crap and what isn’t , not easy." Exactly. Just like everything else we have to do an amount of personal work to figure out what's BS. Twitter doesn't have to be some exactly equal source where they let everyone use their stuff and speaks nothing but truth. Saying OMG Twitter is biased is like saying OMG Infowars is biased. Gatewatpundit is biased! FOX is biased! Of course they are. Why wouldn't they be? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 12/31/21 at 12:39:58 6444464E5344210 wrote:
So when a Government, tells people and Corporate/Private businesses they MUST, and are REQUIRED to do, 'this or that', with NO authority from the people that Fund that Government. Is that BS also, or is it, OK ? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 12/31/21 at 12:51:16 Is this a hypothetical? ...or did some cake baker somewhere deny a MAGA hat fool a cookie? Race, color, gender, are protected by the Constitution. That's where the authority comes from. Maskless Maga hat morons are not protected. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 12/31/21 at 13:17:04 4553445941545942360 wrote:
Yep, True, and understandable. Is FORCING a person/company to do something, also 'protected', by the Constitution ? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 12/31/21 at 13:34:40 Is FORCING a person/company to do something, also 'protected', by the Constitution ? FORCING is not "protected" in the Constitution. Humans are. If a person/company is violating the rights of another human then multiple degrees of FORCE can be implemented to protect that human's rights. If FORCE is not required, then alternate means are acceptable. Is Twitter violating anyone's rights when they don't let them use their business tools? Depends on the situation, if they say its because of gender/race/etc. then yes they are. If it's because they say things Twitter doesn't like, then no they aren't. Twitter can be FORCED to comply or otherwise pay restitution etc. if they violate a Human's rights. They can not be FORCED to comply or otherwise pay restitution etc. if they don't like what a Human says. So while people sit around complaining and arguing the semantics of how the Constitution "protects" FORCE, etc., the real work gets done by people that work on establishing if Twitter, by law, could be considered a public forum where 1st Amendment rights actually apply. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 01/01/22 at 08:33:07 1434363E2334510 wrote:
I wonder if all bakers know that. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/01/22 at 12:03:11 I wonder if all bakers know that. It's not the same no matter how many times you try to tell us that Orange is an Apple. The Baker(s) were challenged on restricting service to a Human based off specific values that are protected by law. They also used their specific values protected by law to justify their position. Some succeeded, some failed. No baker was sued because they tried to keep a customer from using another bakery, or because they commented on the words another Human utilized to communicate. Twitter is not refusing service based off the specific values that the Baker(s) were. They are different. Not the same. Not similar, not kinna like, or sorta the same. Different. They used different things. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/01/22 at 14:24:28 Yeah, the doctor who invented the process is expressing his problems with what is going on, and someone, rather than have The Conversation, is labelling it Disinformation, and crushing it. That is how truth is discovered. Someone DECIDES what truth is and anything outside of it is censored. How about that? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/01/22 at 14:37:51 Yeah, the doctor who invented the process is expressing his problems with what is going on, and someone, rather than have The Conversation, is labelling it Disinformation, and crushing it. That is how truth is discovered. Someone DECIDES what truth is and anything outside of it is censored. How about that? Look at the places you get your information and tell me they provide an equal amount of information that is pro-vaccine. Where are you reading, watching or otherwise seeing a conversation where information is being equally accepted. We try to have a "Conversation" here but information that doesn't already support your pre-decided outcome is ignored or labeled as wrong - even without looking at it. It's an issue if others (others being all know humans besides JoG) present incorrect information but if you do it we are to ignore the wrong parts and just use the correct parts. If 1 in 10 people die or get hospitalized with heart conditions alone, where are all these people? How did the US Military dodge this statistic by hundreds of thousands? How did you even agree to the 1 in 10 statistic using the document you provided? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/01/22 at 14:50:03 How did the US Military dodge this statistic by hundreds of thousands? That escaped you? I'm not surprised.. But the heart attacks in athletes? Fugedaboutit |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/01/22 at 15:44:28 https://victorygirlsblog.com/in-the-ultimate-lockdown-researchers-in-antarctica-get-the-rona/ Good thing they got jabbed |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/01/22 at 16:36:57 How did the US Military dodge this statistic by hundreds of thousands? That escaped you? It did. Please explain. But the heart attacks in athletes? Fugedaboutit Incorrect, I very specifically outlined the statistical margin of confirmed athletes and indicated a specific demographic should avoid specific vaccine types and schedules. I did not try to claim that a huge percentage of the thousands and thousands of vaccinated athletes have died or been hospialized. If 1 in 10 had cardiac issues alone the NFL would have had over 150 dead or hospitalized players. Where are they? 94.6% of NFL players are vaccinated: https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/resources/press-releases/nfl-covid-19-testing-results-and-vaccination-rates-nov-28-dec-11-2021 Fantasy Football leagues track player injuries and outages religiously as it is integral to the success of the program. Why doesn't one single Fantasy Football organization acknowledge over 150 NFL players died or were hospitalized just for heart issues? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 01/01/22 at 17:28:33 " ... Good thing they got jabbed..." WOW, “Two thirds of the staff based at Belgium’s Princess Elisabeth Polar Station have caught the Omicron variant… All staff passed multiple PCR tests, quarantining, and being fully vaccinated with one having received a booster shot.” |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/02/22 at 19:46:57 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1477032151493267460.html cliff notes for the @joerogan podcast with Dr Robert Malone. Would still recommend listening to the full episode but if you don’t have time right now this is how it went down. [ch129525] Malone talks about becoming a MD and his early career working at the Salk Institute, specifically on RNA. Mentions his mRNA patents and his evolution from academic medicine into medical product development (clinical trials, drug development). Over the years he says he’s coordinated trials which have received billions in Government funding. Claims he has worked with and knows many people at the CDC, knew Anthony Fauci well, and has many friends in the US intelligence community. Now “a pariah”. Rogan brings up the Twitter ban. Malone says he’s probably the only person with his background without a conflict of interest - says he earns no money from this (unlike others). Malone also mentions his deplatforming from LinkedIn for pointing out that the head of Reuters is also on the board of Pfizer. According to Malone LinkedIn subsequently reinstated him and formally apologized for the ban. He surmises why exactly he was banned from Twitter - COVID Care Alliance video re COVID vaccines and/or a post about the World Economic Forum and their media management. Not completely understood or known at this time which was the offending tweet. Malone discusses getting COVID in February 2020 and describes his “lungs burning”. Says he took femotidine. Describes a trial he has helped design using femotidine and celecoxib to treat SARS-CoV-2. Further says FDA would not allow an ivermectin arm in the study despite data. Rogan wants to know why there is obstruction of these drugs (hydroxychloroquine & ivermectin). Malone describes the involvement of Rick Bright and Janet Woodcock in preventing the use of these drugs in the treatment of COVID. He won’t speculate on the why but says they’re wrong. Malone says it is bizarre that Merck would come out against ivermectin. He says billions of doses of both hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin have been safely administered as well as both being on the WHO’s essential drugs list. Malone says he got the Chinese protocols in February 2020 and these included hydroxychloroquine. Says he gave this information to the US Government. Rogan mentions the apparent success of ivermectin and asks what happened in Uttar Pradesh; high use of ivermectin & low deaths. Malone says he had ‘Long COVID’ and then also took the Moderna vaccine because at the time it was thought that it may help with this issue. Claims he had some adverse reactions to the vaccine but despite these was ultimately fine. Discussion briefly turns to natural immunity. Rogan mentions studies showing better effect of natural immunity versus these vaccines. Malone agrees. Malone discusses the Trusted News Initiative led by the BBC and their charge against misinformation/disinformation and the use of the term anti-vaxxer to suppress anything against approved sources (Fauci, Tedros). Discussion turns to cancel culture in the medical field. Previous example with Fauci vs. Duesberg and now leaked emails between Fauci/Collins aiming to ridicule Great Barrington Declaration founders. Malone talks about Israel with high Pfizer vaccine uptake (up to dose 4) and surrounding Palestinian More at the site |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/03/22 at 12:48:34 https://thenationalpulse.com/2021/12/31/vaccinated-21-times-more-likely-to-get-omicron/ EEEEK! |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 01/03/22 at 14:36:16 Funny,... to be rooting for a vaccine not to work. Especially since it's one of Trump's few lasting accomplishments. (Not that he did anything other than order someone else to make it) Anyway, out of 6.788 cases only 4 died. Were they vaccinated? The study it references is in German. ""the majority of people experienced virtually no adverse effects: Keep in mind, elderly and at risk are more likely to be vaccinated. The purpose of vaccination is to reduce severity and deaths, not 100% immunity. Vaccines are not working as well as first hoped, but they do offer decreased risk. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/03/22 at 15:46:12 "Anyway, out of 6.788 cases only 4 died." We are supposed to ignore that part. "The purpose of vaccination is to reduce severity and deaths, not 100% immunity." Ignore that part too. "Vaccines are not working as well as first hoped, but they do offer decreased risk." Ignore that part also. Only look at and accept information that shows how deadly it is. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/03/22 at 17:49:19 Jumped right on that.. Musta missed that stuff about Malone.. Strolled Riiight on by what the guy who figured it out says.. That is Disinformation Because he's not qualified. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/03/22 at 18:05:03 https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/south-africa-is-done-with-omicron-check-the-chart-compared-to-vaccinated-nations/ |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/03/22 at 20:32:03 Jumped right on that.. Musta missed that stuff about Malone.. I still have to have a team go over the information in the Podcast. I figured it would be removed so we had it recorded. The Mass Formation Psychosis was interesting. Considering the outcome of his last Alchem Covid study that got him fired because his outcomes were complete BS makes me question his ethical high-road approach. I don't have some delusion that politics and money are not involved in all this. But when I am told specific ratios die or are hospitalized for heart conditions alone and the document for reference doesn't actually show that, and no evidence exists that even gets remotely close to those numbers, I tend to choose to acknowledge that instead of ignore it. Cardiac issues are a thing, but not at the thousands and thousands that should be there if the numbers claimed are even close to happening. Where are all the dead and hospitalized? There should be hundreds of thousands of them. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 01/04/22 at 08:42:05 624240485542270 wrote:
So you admit: 'I The questions is, How Much, politics and money are involved? Every morning, that is EVERY MORNING, Numerous Segments ! (Especially the, 'Today' show) It is nothing but, broadcast FEAR ! |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/04/22 at 09:38:55 So you admit: 'I Incorrect. You altered my statement to say "I have some delusion" to which I very specifically stated I do not. I do not have some delusion, and that delusion would be that that politics and money are not involved. "The questions is, How Much, politics and money are involved?" Lots. I fail to have the delusion that money and politics are somehow exempt from this particular topic. Or as I already said before my statement was edited to mean the opposite: I don't have some delusion that politics and money are not involved in all this. I see little value in using lies to counter lies which is essentially what happens a lot of the time. That politician lied so I will post false infection rates. Yeah that helps. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/04/22 at 11:41:34 It's just one We will see https://insurance-forums.com/life-insurance/oneamerica-ceo-says-death-rates-among-working-age-people-up-40/ |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/04/22 at 13:22:08 The ACLI has similar data. https://www.acli.com/posting/-/media/acli/files/newsroom-news-releases-public/120821_deathbenefitsdiagram.pdf Chapter 12 of the ACLI 2021 handbook outlines more detailed statistics. https://www.acli.com/-/media/acli/files/fact-books-public/12fb21_chapter12_lifeexpectancy.pdf Obviously their information on people 19 and younger is very wrong according to people on Twitter. The number of people in the United States who are age 19 or younger has either declined or remained flat in every year since 2010 (Table 12.4). There are currently 81.3 million people in that age group, compared to 83.2 million in 2010. Similarly, the number of those age 65 or older has been rapidly increasing. There are currently 55.9 million seniors (those age 65 and over) in the United States. Since 2010, the number of seniors increased by 38 percent, or 15.4 million. When coupled with those approaching retirement (age 50 to 64), the percent of those in or approaching retirement totals 118.7 million, or 36 percent of the population |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/06/22 at 10:44:04 So we listened to the Rogan podcast in full. Malone presented no real evidence so there is nothing to actually go look into. I understand the mistrust in the politics of this, or anything really, but Malone's math simply doesn't ad up. It's like people claiming 1 in 10 US Marines died in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. Challenging that thousands and thousands of US marines didn't come back dead isn't agreeing that the war(s) were the right thing and that there were no political motivations. There can be bad policy, and poor politics, and also not 1 in 10 dead US Marines. Lying and exaggerating about how many US Marines died does nothing more than show you can lie too. Embellishing facts, like saying you "invented" mRNA, and inflating numbers doesn't help the case, it just makes Malone seem irresponsible and dishonest. https://www.usmcu.edu/Research/Marine-Corps-History-Division/Research-Tools-Facts-and-Figures/Marine-Corps-Casualties-1775-2016/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK220068/ |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/06/22 at 23:50:55 https://rense.com/general96/45-years-of-masks.php |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/07/22 at 05:49:24 Again another article relying on people agreeing with it, but not taking the time to read what they offer as evidence. Failure to read what is referenced reveals that a claim to protect one person is "backed up" by evidence that doesn't show that at all: Research reveals that prolonged use of Covid masks, homemade or N95, can cause anywhere from five percent on up to 20 percent loss of oxygen, leading to hypercapnia (excessive carbon dioxide in the bloodstream typically caused by inadequate respiration), panic attacks, vertigo, double vision, tinnitus, concentration issues, headaches, slowed reactions, seizures, alterations in blood chemistry and suffocation due to air displacement. We are killing our children! Wake up America and get these things off your children’s faces! The children! Except the very reference provided specifically states: some people with pre-existing respiratory illnesses may face health issues with improper or prolonged use of tight-fitting masks, such as N95 respirators. But people wearing cloth or surgical masks are in little to no danger of breathing in unhealthy amounts of carbon dioxide. Those respiratory deficient kids with N-95s wearing them all day are at risk. Normal kids wearing the cheap masks are fine. But lets ignore that part and say all kids are in danger. They are telling you the "research" says one thing, but the research the author links to says another. This means this article's author is lying to you about what the "research" they linked actually said. Now lets be clear because there is some misunderstanding about what I actually say and what I am later told I SAID - but nobody can reference the actual words claimed or a synonymous implication of those words. I am not saying that kids, or humans of any age, should wear masks all day. I am saying that the author of this article is inaccurate and misleading when they claim one thing and the research they provide claims another. Masks in the general public are to keep your spit near your face and that's it. Kids running around should minimize physical contact and wash their hands/faces instead of wearing masks. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/07/22 at 12:11:39 And, that said, when all this started the first thing I thought was The homeless will be stacked like cordwood.. And that has not been a headline. I absolutely don't understand. I'd like to see someone offer some explanation, cuz I don't get it. Unhealthy, undernourished, far from sanitary and not just dying by the dozens? How is that even possible? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 01/07/22 at 14:05:05 One thing I think, being an engine kinda' guy, is that the method of testing masks is illogical. We all know that if an air filter has any air gap around it's edges, all the air will be drawn from around the filter instead of through it, and masks seem to be tested by how much particles are blocked by the material. If a mask blocks micro particles, it can't be breathed through so you are getting your air from around it. That's why glasses fog up. So I tend to wear a light gator. It doesn't have much micro particulate filtering but I do breathe through it, not around it. I think it's got to help a little in reducing the distance of my exhalations and filter a bit on inhale. It's debatable,.. but you do what you do. :-? Admittedly, even this may be wrong,... it could be that the extra effort I put in breathing through a gator may make air exchange increase, but you have go with what seems logical. We wear masks when we paint or spray stuff, right?... and we cover our mouths when we cough or sneeze. Right?... :P |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/07/22 at 15:22:26 Absolutely agree. Based strictly on What Looks Reasonable A mask would seem like a good plan. I understand that particulate hitting a barrier is a good idea. But I also don't agree with the cashier behind a Solid Barrier required to wear one while the public are safe from her. I'm not saying Never wear a mask But I also think the hyperventilating panic stricken approach needs to stop. Some People Are At Risk.. Mask up if you are afraid. The article that was stomped on by fauci that pointed out, what everyone knew, that the risk is not the same for everyone and behavior to deal reasonably with the threat didn't look the same for everyone. The dangers were oversold, the who the why is for you to decide, but it is obvious that was done. It's time to weigh and measure the likely long-term consequences of how society approaches this. I know I mentioned suicide and other issues because of how they were demanding we deal with it. It's a good six pack conversation and I can't type out the complex things I think about this. We did it wrong. It was obvious to me. And the problems that we are creating won't be obvious for years. Children look resilient, but just how they will be affected by everything, from the isolation to the masks, not seeing the smile or whatever nonverbal communication they are missing. Just shrugging and pretending We did not have a choice? Nope,, choices were not discussed. And options were ignored and the people who proposed them were dissed. Just label an idea Misinformation Smear the people who offered them Anyone else have information on India? Notice what happened when they started using that horse medicine |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/07/22 at 15:42:27 E,have a look, okay? If you can boil it down to Readers Digest type stuff, that would be helpful. I'd have to read it with a notebook, take notes and Try to pull out the finished product. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2 Advertised as The study.. I'm going to post this and then go back and hope I can find how I got to this site. I've been looking at it, off and on, for long enough that I can't remember where I was when I clicked on the link that took me here. Probably somewhere between twelve and fifteen minutes.. Ahh! The Back Button! https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/ The link that I went to, well, I should have read down first Some Readers Digest level stuff may be others in recent times, but I'm aware of precisely one proper study of the effectiveness of cloth and surgical face masks, used as intended, using documented infected persons, in a study that lasted years, and controlling for the only variable that matters: does the virus get out? TL;DR: No mask - 100 to 1000 coronavirus viral particles land in a viral particle chamber in front of their face after 30 minutes. Bog-average surgical mask - 1 viral particle escaped. IOW, a 99.9% to 99.99% prevention of viral load down to 5 microns or less was achieved over 30 minutes' exposure. None of the studies referenced by The Federalist tested that. They tested whether the masks protect the wearer. [Pro-tip, crappity smacktards: they are neither designed nor intended for that, since ever. You could look it up.] This is like testing parachutes to see how many people wearing them didn't land on the earth. crappity smacktard Science 101 level error there, geniuses. They tested whether the masks stopped everything, for unknown long periods of time, e.g., during extended surgical procedures. In one "study" cited, they found that wearing a double t-shirt mask increased the level of virus expelled above the level transmitted by wearing nothing. [Pro-tip: if you can't figure out why this is prima facie recockulously impossible, try putting a t-shirt over the gas nozzle at the local station, and see if that delivers more gasoline into your car's tank. IOW, you can't exceed the results of no mask, under any circumstances, unless you're having people blow through a fully colonized petri dish of germs grown for days beforehand.] When a test succeeded exactly as expected, it was labelled as "apples and oranges". We could go on and on, as these assclowns have, but their point is pointless. When you keep pointing to retards, and bullshit studies, and then act like Little Jack Horner pulling a plum out of your ass, you're just an idiot. When you can't account for a thousand other things, like people wearing their masks on their chin, or touching everything with gloves, and then taking those gloves off with their teeth to touch their cellphones, or don't wash their nasty hands after they crap and rub feces all over them and then finger-bang everything they touch afterwards with their poo, the problem isn't masking or not, it's societal retardation. And dozens of variables you forgot to control out of the experiment. Masks Work - As Designed A surgical or cotton mask isn't something you wear to protect yourself. Write that on your hand with a Sharpie in case you're too stupid to remember that. You wear one to protect other people from you. For the same reason you put a diaper on a baby's ass. It's not there to protect the baby from shitting himself. If this needs further explanation, you're not smart enough to be let out in public without the chaperone from the short bus field trip, and you can probably tell the class what the glass on its windows tastes like. If your aim is self-protection, you need to be wearing a properly fitted and fit-tested N95, or better. Got facial hair that prevents a proper seal? You're f**ked. Haven't been fit-tested? You might be f**ked. Don't know how to put it on right and seal it properly? You're f**ked. That's why the surgeon general correctly told you not to bother with an N95, unless you're going to do the homework necessary. Only afterwards did CNN and Fauci retardedly conflate that down to "masks don't work". Anybody who was ever in a military or police tear gas training chamber exercise knows what I'm talking about here. People too stupid to understand that were very entertaining to those of us in those chambers who watched them spaz out and lose their nuts, choke, and puke, because they didn't pay attention. Don't be That Guy. What Masks Won't Do An N95 won't protect you from anyone if you wear it wrong, or it doesn't fit and seal. A surgical or cotton mask isn't there to protect you from anyone else. Any mask is pointless if you aren't in close proximity to the infected, and you aren't infected yourself. In your car, by yourself, wearing a mask? You're a crappity smacktard. Walking outside, or exercising, by yourself, with a mask on? You're a crappity smacktard. In a population that isn't infected with COVID, flu, or anything else, and wearing a mask? You're a crappity smacktard. The problem comes with that last part: knowing whether you, or anyone else, is infected. Want to go mask-free? ROWYBS. And so will everyone else around you. Which works fine (just like with VD and AIDS, and merrily sport-f**king people.) Until it doesn't. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I've been wearing masks of all levels, and putting them on people, professionally, for decades. They piss me off mightily. But if you cough or sneeze or spit, crappity smack your comfort. And if I have to be around you, and you could give me something nasty, or lethal, crappity smack my comfort too. Harden the crappity smack up. When enough people play stupid games, the professional jackasses in politics feel honor-bound to nanny them. When they have a spring-loaded crappity smack-with-everyone-and-control-their-every-waking-activity setting, then it becomes the shitshow we've lived for the last two years and counting. And when intelligence is a constant, but the population is increasing, the mean IQ is dropping like CNN's ratings. Bloggers and the usual gang of science-impaired idiots at The Federalist should probably stop hitching their wagons to the crappity smacktards at CDC and ABCNNBCBS. Unless you don't want people to be able to tell the difference. Related: GMTA. RTWT. POSTED BY AESOP AT 12:05 PM 5 COMMENTS: LABELS: ABCNNBCBS IS FAKE NEWS, KUNG FLU, SCIENCE, WHATEVER DOESN'T KILL ME REALLY PISSES ME OFF WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 5, 2022 WORD h/t Phil Go to Phil's blog, Busted Knuckles, Or over to the OP at 90 Miles From Tyranny. It's a short education in Everything You Need To Know. For the longer version re-watch this classic of wisdom from 2012: IANAL. But he is. POSTED BY AESOP AT 7:46 AM 6 COMMENTS: LABELS: COMMUNITY POLICING, WISDOM When You're In A Hole, Stop Digging Evidently, I'm not smart enough to know what I read over on Claire's blog the other day: "I hadn't even read Aesop's attempted takedown of me before I started writing this comment, but wow. He thinks I set up an idiotic either/or when I clearly stated in the post that that either/or was just the beginning of a conversation about other options AND when the main point of the post was to ASK READERS for other options and viewpoints??? Jeazy peazy, someone didn't bother reading before blarting." First, let's summarize where I agree with Claire: Her either/or absolutely was, as she said, idiotic. D'accord. We'll come back to that in a minute. And yes, she was asking for input on the following question: "The question: What will you do -- or what do you think you and your neighbors should do --if the unvaxxed, or the previously"fully vaxxed" but now insufficiently boostered, are forbidden to access basic life needs? I'm thinking groceries especially." Firstly, contrary to her assumptions, I read every word in her piece. Secondly, there are two problems with her pique in response to what I wrote back: 1) It was an exact answer to her very question, which I had obviously read, and without any trouble understanding same. 2) When the author asks a question, and then posts their own answer to that very question, they own that answer. You can't walk it back, or feign faux surprise that someone thought you actually meant what you said, when the words you're quoting are literally and explicitly your own. So unless Claire meant to illustrate how little thought whatsoever she's given to her own question (which she nonetheless describes having discussed with her unidentified friend for some good time): "We went back and forth, coming to no particular conclusions,..." then she absolutely owns her answer to her own question. Which was "Fully vaxxed and boostered friends or black marketeers will make food runs for us and we'll continue to quietly refuse to bow to Faucism no matter what pressures are brought to bear." Riiiiiiight. And food-pooping unicorns will sprinkle cheeseburgers, surf and turf platters, and haute cuisine box meals over the homes of all the sincere boys and girls too, I suppose. This answer has all the seriousness of a conversation with a 3-year old girl having a tea party with her dolls and stuffed animals. When that's your answer to "What will you do...?", you can't come back and gaslight me or anyone else for being so gauche as to take you at your word, and noting in reply that such a proposition is farcical and idiotic. It would be different if she'd posted both answers as two other people, without making any suggestion herself, but that's not what she posted. My apologies for understanding the ridiculousness of her reply so succinctly and rapidly, but there it is. It's her reply to her own question. And it's frankly childish and preposterous, prima facie. If you're going to call something a "think piece", might one suggest doing some first? We took that for granted as bog-obvious, but tasked for the observation now, we shall belabor the point. Show the class where and when you've noted any spirit of solidarity present in America between the vaxxed and the unvaxxed? Show all work. What evidence leads anyone to presume that any such "food runs" will be blithely tolerated by TPTB, their teeming hordes of Karen Vaxxhole minions, or the erstwhile Jell-O Sheriffs at the local foodmart? Once again, show all work. What experience in smuggling food long-term, in any appreciable quantities, leads Claire to believe random folks will do that any better than they'll wash their hands during flu season? I ask this because the average American consumes nearly a ton of food per year. That's over 5 pounds a day, per person. So who do you - anybody out there - know, who's vaxxed, that will happily sneak a family of four 20 pounds of food, day in and day out, indefinitely? Where are they going to put it? How will they buy it? How will it be handed off? IAN007, but I'm guessing putting 140 pounds of groceries for the week in a dead drop isn't going to cut it, unless your tradecraft expertise includes a vault of galleons from Gringott's Bank, Ron Weasley's flying Ford Cortina, and Harry Potter's Cloak Of Invisibility. So for those of us not mentally living in Harry Potter World, howzat gonna work, exactly, IRL? Once again, show all work. Now tell me how it's going to work for 100M of us. And in what universe do "black marketeers" operate pro bono? So, needing ducats to pay for their efforts, in perpetuity, are you independently wealthy enough to pay the 1000 or 10,000% mark-ups for a box of corn flakes, and everything else? And what about the bien peasants unable to afford such custom? "Let them eat cake"? You're going to "continue to quietly refuse to bow to Faucism", all right. Delirium and coma will set in after a couple of weeks of extreme hunger, and after three to four weeks, the only sound you'll issue will be naught but the escaping gasses of decomposition, and the munching of thousands of ants and maggots on your festering corpse. Well-playe |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/07/22 at 15:56:17 IDK why or how stuff I didn't highlight gets pasted. I went back to cut it out,but, effort was frustrated. Read the applicable places and ignore the rest. It's basically just common sense. Of course a mask inhibits the overwhelming majority of crap riding along on moisture. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by WebsterMark on 01/08/22 at 06:50:29 485E49544C59544F3B0 wrote:
Sound logic. There are two components to a filtration system and a mask on your face is a filtration system. One is the particle capture efficiency of the mask against a certain particle size. The other component is the sealing which in this case is the mask against your face. An N95 mask, brand new, is rated 95% efficient against particles that are .3 micron or larger. That’s just the efficiency of the mask fabric tested in a laboratory setting with zero bypass. However, from a system point of view, a 2% gap in sealing can reduce particle capture efficiency of the system (mask against face) by up to 60% on the smallest particle sizes. If you have a heavy beard, forget it, the hair prevents sealing and much of the air, which, always seeks the path of least resistance, escapes and enters that way. But yes, mask do offer filtration against airborne aerosols, but not nearly as effective as believed. And, one reason suggested why there is not a significant difference in areas with mask mandates vs areas without, is because of the false sense of security they offer. Couple the false belief they offer protection and you have large groups gathering in poorly ventilated areas passing aerosols back and forth to one another. Like all sciences, there’s a lot of detail to particle capture efficiency that matters, but it’s complicated and boring so it’s easier for bureaucrats to insist on masks mandates and imagine they’ve accomplished far, far more than they have. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 01/08/22 at 11:36:12 427077666170675874677E150 wrote:
Sound logic. [/quote] How dare you... |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/08/22 at 14:41:25 https://twitter.com/i/status/1474946202714079236 |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/08/22 at 15:47:38 So are they saying they "Didn't" say those things or are they saying they change their minds, or just being contradictive? The video didn't show anyone saying that they never said the earlier nonsense. Like if I were to claim Men's bathrooms have tampons in them for Men that think they are Women, then later learn those tampons are for Women that think they are Men - did I lie? Or did I change my mind based off evidence? I would be lying if I said I never claimed tampons are in Men's bathrooms, but am I lying if I was wrong? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/10/22 at 18:17:56 Brazilian reporter Rafael Silva collapses on live TV after bragging about getting his third CCP booster shot, then goes on to suffer five heart attacks on the way to the hospital. Silva is 36 years old, healthy, with no known prior medical conditions. We have officially hit the limit for coincidences. Brazilian reporter Rafael Silva collapses on live TV after bragging about getting his third CCP booster shot, then goes on to suffer five heart attacks on the way to the hospital. Silva is 36 years old, healthy, with no known prior medical conditions. We have officially hit the limit for coincidences. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/10/22 at 19:43:33 What is the limit for coincidences? This guy does sit in the demographic of people that should not get a booster, and should have wider intervals of only one type of the vaccine. Or none at all. But one thing is for sure, Billions did not die from heart attacks. Would those exceed the limit for coincidences? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/11/22 at 11:15:21 Whatever it takes to avoid seeing, I'm sure you can manage. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/fireworks-gop-senator-confronts-dr-fauci-project-veritas-expose-video/ As if We didn't know.. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/11/22 at 13:25:22 We discussed Project Veritas already. We have also gone over the tremendous amount of obviously false information The Gateway Pundit posts. Of course it only matters if its a lie if it says something we don't like. Otherwise its ok. The creator of the Project Veritas videos edits some of them so the answers are not in order. As in if I ask you if you are pro-vaccine and you say "No" and then I ask you if you are over 40 years in age and you say "Yes". I then release a video of you responding like this: JoG are you pro-vaccine? "Yes." JoG are you over 40? "No" Would you be ok with me posting that and then telling people to just ignore the inaccurate parts? Oh but since Project Veritas says what we like lets just ignore the blatant lies and just focus on the parts we agree with, accuracy unimportant. If CNN released this type of footage I doubt the same people that ignore the PV lies would be as forgiving. Its ok for Gateway Pundit to lie, PV to lie, but it's a big deal if a politician does? You want real info on Fauci go read his emails. That's enlightening and true. Read the info you posted, it shows the real numbers. Read the actual EcoHealth documents. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/11/22 at 15:40:32 https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/antifa-terrorist-bomb-gets-bond-january-6-political-prisoners-languish-jail-no-bail-no-bond-no-equal-justice/ |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/11/22 at 16:20:46 My understanding between getting bond and a no-bond rule regarding a homemade explosive device is the magnitude or volume of explosives and if it was placed or not. This doesn't equate any reasoning for why some non-violent trespassers did not get bond, but I am not surprised that anyone with any affiliation received bond with that size of a pipe bomb in a backpack. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 01/11/22 at 16:52:27 5C7C7E766B7C190 wrote:
Can you point to the Proof of that ? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 01/11/22 at 17:02:56 436361697463060 wrote:
I Disagree, If someone gets something, or not. It totally depends on their Political affirmation, and/or their skin color. Like a White Skinned Cop, Restraining a Black Felon, like he was taught to do, gets 22 Years. In Solitary Confinement. And a Black Skinned Cop, Kills a White, unarmed, woman, in cold blood, and gets 4.5 years. In a Country Club Prison. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/11/22 at 18:17:54 "Can you point to the Proof of that ?" This discussion is already on the forums where I point out specific videos on specific topics. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/11/22 at 18:36:41 Disregard everything from veritas . Got it. CNN? Keep watching. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/breaking-house-gop-oversight-members-release-emails-fauci-nih-officials-concealing-information-wuhan-lab-leak-theory-american-public/ Fauci is a criminal https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/breaking-house-gop-oversight-members-release-emails-fauci-nih-officials-concealing-information-wuhan-lab-leak-theory-american-public/ |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/11/22 at 19:26:57 Got it. CNN? Keep watching. No, I said the exact opposite of that multiple times for years. But what I SAID isn't relevant, we will just make up things and pretend I SAID it because actual words aren't important. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/11/22 at 20:21:13 You keep pretending that heritage has Zero credibility. It's obviously not true. And from Pfizer It all started with a simple admission. Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla joined Yahoo Finance’s Anjalee Khemlani to discuss vaccines, boosters, and Omicron. He admitted what we already know based on the results we’ve been seeing, but in doing so he opened up a can of worms. Here’s what he said, emphasis added: “So — and we know that the two doses of the vaccine offer very limited protection, if any. The three doses, with the booster, they offer reasonable protection against hospitalization and deaths — and, again, that’s, I think, very good — and less protection against the infection.” This slip was intended to try to get more people to take the booster shots, but as it spread across social media it had the opposite effect. Those who have been following the regimen offered by Big Pharma and promoted by out government started asking questions about the actual efficacy of the drugs they’ve been injecting into their bodies. Meanwhile, those who are among the dreaded “anti-vaxxer” crowd were highlighting the idiocy of the admission. Biden Expected to Make 'Forceful' Push for Voting Rights in Georgia Keep Watching Sports and political commentator Clay Travis was among many people to share the video clip. He claims he was hit with a copyright claim by Pfizer or someone associated with them to have the video taken down. ***Support The Liberty Daily and Mike Lindell -- use code TLD at MyPillow.com and get up to 66% off!*** When admitting the truth is so damaging that you need to stifle it before more people hear it, what does that say about your agenda? Those who are still defending Pfizer’s and Big Pharma’s profits by parroting their lies need to wake up immediately |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/12/22 at 10:05:49 https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/double-vaccinated-18-year-old-brazilian-model-dies-developing-blood-clots-due-covid-complications/ Remember boys and girls Get your shots! They are Safe and Effective! |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 01/12/22 at 10:35:08 I'll bet there have been thousands of double vaxxed Covid deaths,... but out of 5 million that is insignificant. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/12/22 at 10:36:11 Didn't go unnoticed.. The fight against Raaycism must go on! If people Daah from the Rona, so be it! But, starve out! Go bankrupt! WE will decide For You what you can do. WE say Tis Okay, No!! Tis desirable, Tis the socially Responsible thing to go destroy, burn,loot, in anger over WHAT THE SCIENCE SAYS IS NOT HAPPENING. the CDC lost the faith of the American people last year when business owners were forced to stay home and parents were forced to pull their kids out of school, yet social justice protesters and leftist activists were permitted to flood the streets in protest. You weren’t allowed to open your business, but they were allowed to burn it down. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by WebsterMark on 01/12/22 at 12:54:41 the CDC lost the faith of the American people last year when business owners were forced to stay home and parents were forced to pull their kids out of school, yet social justice protesters and leftist activists were permitted to flood the streets in protest. You weren’t allowed to open your business, but they were allowed to burn it down. Absolutely correct. That statement should take the award for the single dumbest thing to ever happen during this “Pandemic of the Unwell” which is what it should be forever known as. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 01/12/22 at 13:24:33 4161636B7661040 wrote:
So glad to know, that a discussion, where you pointed out specific videos, is now Proof. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 01/12/22 at 14:44:26 [quote][/quote] "You weren’t allowed to open your business, but they were allowed to burn it down" |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/12/22 at 16:07:09 So glad to know, that a discussion, where you pointed out specific videos, is now Proof. As usual the information people won't even look at is somehow not accurate. Watch the full videos, then watch the O'Keefe releases. He even admits he did it. He states he posted the videos with the responses "out of order". Not all or every or any known synonymous English word but the ones I was referring to. That to me is proof. When there is a source video, a released video and the person who made the video says the video is presented "out of order" I am ok with that as reliable evidence. Of course O'Keefe could have been lying and the source video was the actual edited one and he somehow thought is best to re-edit to reduce his credibility - but there is no evidence of that. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/12/22 at 16:17:41 Absolutely correct. That statement should take the award for the single dumbest thing to ever happen during this “Pandemic of the Unwell” which is what it should be forever known as. I agree. I do recall statements about how it's higher safety risk to go break-up the protests than to let them go on, but that was strictly disease related. The physical damage however I think was just completely dismissed. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/12/22 at 18:18:17 https://truthbasedmedia.com/2022/01/12/autopsy-confirms-26-year-olds-death-from-myocarditis-directly-caused-by-pfizer-covid-vaccine/ Whether or not more or less covid came from the Mostly Peaceful riots Doesn't change the fact that the Big Mouths were SUPPORTING the Riots and SAYING it was More important to protest the racist killing of black people by cops, when the statistics show that is bullshit,than to behave in accordance with the Avoid the Rona mandate. I know, few of us remember the actual story. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/12/22 at 22:12:55 https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/12/11/report-shows-4-in-5-covid-deaths-fully-vaccinated/ Hmm,,,interesting |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/13/22 at 02:24:48 Hmm... Did you even read it, or just look at the headline? There's no way you looked at the week 37 bar graphs and think any of this is true. This was shown incorrect a day after it came out because the math is so wrong. But obviously its ok to lie if your lies say what we want to hear. Just as long as the people we don't like don't lie. But lets just look at the math in this article and see what we come up with: 92,029 cases of the Delta variant confirmed in the timeframe covered in the provided PHE reports. 7,235 received two doses of the vaccine. 53,822 cases in those who had zero vaccinations. But if we wordsmith it we can turn that into 4 out of 5 for people that refuse to read. Using the numbers in this report we would have seen 40 million dead within a week. 40 million in one week. Did that happen? Do the math yourself, I provided the full reports here used in that article. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018416/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_37_v2.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1025358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1032859/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_45.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1039677/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_49.pdf Oh and lets take a look at the redacted portion of the 4th section of their "research". https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vaccines-highly-effective-against-hospitalisation-from-delta-variant I wonder why that had to be removed. This one is so off the mark that it is apparent at this point that you do not care about truth. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 01/13/22 at 08:48:45 624240485542270 wrote:
I spent some time looking, and your, 'reliable evidence', comes from web sites that are decidedly far left of center. But somehow, it's OK, now ? (Project Veritas) |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 01/13/22 at 12:21:12 Overall, we rate Project Veritas Right Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of misleading videos, propaganda, conspiracy theories, and several failed fact checks. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/ |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/13/22 at 13:14:39 So they just created the email and everything.. The fact that What they say Sounds like what I'm seeing Unlike the Safe and effective horsecrap. I accept information that aligns with observed reality. We WATCHED every treatment option that Trump unfortunately mentioned be stomped into the dirt. Now, it's finally getting harder to ignore Ivermectin and a couple things. The jab is a failure. Failure. It's The most destructive jab ever. But somehow the Experts just keep screaming it's The Answer and the brainwashed just keep believing. How many heart attacks in young, healthy people do you people need to see? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/13/22 at 13:26:25 "I spent some time looking, and your, 'reliable evidence', comes from web sites that are decidedly far left of center. " I don't care what websites tell me something says. I watch the actual videos. I look at O'Keefe's material, I follow his Twitter, I watch and see what PV releases in full. Websites telling me what something says only gives them power to tell me what is going on. When you watch the NPR video in full then watch O'Keefe's release you think those are in order? The Medicaid video's when you watch the full video then the edited one, those answers line up? The edited video shows the answer to question A being from question A? The USPS series, those are all in order? No edits out of sequence to show reactions to things that weren't part of the USPS investigation? Weird O'Keefe would admit to it. I wonder what spin justifies this. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/13/22 at 13:41:01 I accept information that aligns with observed reality. That's why you refuse to acknowledge Billions of people, even kids, have taken the vaccine with zero side-effects. Once you observe it then your observed reality will have a drastic mathematical change. So only look at heart issues, ignore the healthy. Don't observe the Billions of healthy. The audacity to say what you observe in the one little section of the planet you live in is an analogue for Earth is admirable. How many kids in the hospital have you observed? Oh let me guess, the internet said it. Not the local hospital - the internet. "How many heart attacks in young, healthy people do you people need to see?" How many healthy do you need to see? I ran through the math you refuse to read while believing the lies from a single comment - you do know the "1 in 10" came from a commenter right? Not from the study - and we should have seen over 800,000 heart attacks by now. Where are all these dead kids? But if you observe that there aren't thousands of dead kids, then you can't claim that tons of people are dying. Billions. Billions of people are fine. Why do you ignore that? Maybe because if you include the healthy you can get a percentage and that will ruin that Observed Reality thing. The problem is you are using lies to speak truth. Why are you ok with that? Why are you ok using lies to call other people liars? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/13/22 at 21:03:56 I DON'T CARE HOW MANY. Answer the question. Who gets to decide For me? I say Nobody. You ignore the numbers on the vaers. And THAT number is Seriously reduced. People are DYING, and you shrug and act like it is okay. You pretend that because someone used a number you don't believe is possible, and it probably isn't possible, but shrugging and continuing to act like everyone needs to get the jab is unconscionable. Targeted response was suggested. It got stomped on by fauci and friends. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/13/22 at 22:32:21 "I DON'T CARE HOW MANY." Obviously. You want to cherry-pick what is used but the real world has to use every component of a situation not just selected parts. If you claim 1 in 10 the real world can't ignore that there aren't 2000 dead kids per-day in 2021. You can, but coroners across the country can't jump on board with that. "Answer the question. Who gets to decide For me?" Who is deciding for you? As far as I can tell you still have freely decided to not take the vaccine. So nobody has decided for you, which seems to be exactly what we both think should happen. "You ignore the numbers on the vaers. And THAT number is Seriously reduced." You ignore that I did not do this. I use the component averages of VAERS and the associated verified medical records and death certificates and even that is a sh!tshow due to the unverified nature of every single report. I've used VAERS for over a decade, you read articles about it. I am well aware of how data in that thing is skewed, you think one can be criminally charged for false reporting on it and I can lay out the legal reasons down to the specific sentences in US criminal code as to why you can't. VAERS literally says it is unverified and unsubstantiated and for a reason. This is like someone reading about driving rigs for an oil company and telling you how it really works. https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/does-vaers-list-deaths-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines "People are DYING, and you shrug and act like it is okay." I refuse to use lies to combat lies. I instead broke down for you the exact demographic and the specific vaccine strain types that impact that demographic negatively and at what ratios. No matter how many times I say there is a cardiac issue BUT only among a specific demographic, you will claim I SAID things I never did. I never said vaccines were completely safe, I said we need an accurate percentage because you can't get things done by using lies and hack-math to justify your stance. "You pretend that because someone used a number you don't believe is possible, and it probably isn't possible, but shrugging and continuing to act like everyone needs to get the jab is unconscionable." I never said anything like that. Not even close. I have never said everyone needs to be vaccinated. What I have said is using lies to fight lies is useless and hypocritical. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/14/22 at 10:31:28 You may not have Said everyone gets the jab But you seem very comfortable with people having to choose Risk vax injury Lose your job What happens to people who are dependent on their paycheck to feed and house their family? Who told Them to get the jab? Were they forced to take it? Were they forced to take it? Or did they voluntarily take it? How Would you describe that? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/14/22 at 11:04:15 You may not have Said everyone gets the jab But you seem very comfortable with people having to choose Risk vax injury Lose your job I never said it was comfortable with it - I said it was coercion. Multiple times. What I choose to do is not exaggerate and instead use factual information using terminology that accurately portrays an event. "What happens to people who are dependent on their paycheck to feed and house their family? Who told Them to get the jab? Were they forced to take it?" They were not forced. They chose to keep their job instead of taking alternatives. Yes some of those alternatives are sh!tty, like being homeless. They chose to not be homeless, lose their kids, etc. it's still, to me, a choice. Like if a company moves it's operations to another State and you pack up and go - did the Company "force" you to move or did you choose to go and not stay in a town with no jobs and no future where you lose your house and kids? Some people will think they were "forced" to move and some people will think they "chose" to move. State mandates are a type of force. There is coercion, and people can still choose to take the vaccine or not. In some cases those people have very little options and choose to take the vaccine over the more damaging options. They may feel there is only one option, and that to me is coercion. Somebody is not going to get what they want either way this works out. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by MnSpring on 01/14/22 at 11:12:42 0424262E3324410 wrote:
Disagree. Ya see if I, CHOOSE, not, to take the jab, I cannot CHOOSE a certain Job, I cannot CHOOSE to go into a certain building. I cannot CHOOSE a certain thing. Basically if I CHOOSE not to be oppressed, then I will be Oppressed. And STOP with the total BS, of ‘have to to protect others’. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/14/22 at 13:05:27 Its just a definition issue. I think this is along the lines of not being able to defend oneself if you can't carry a gun. If your choice to carry a gun is removed on private property the interpretation is that the property owner "Took away" your ability to defend yourself. Did they though? Did they remove the ability to defend yourself? You can't run, spit, kick etc. unless you have a gun? I agree they "limited" or "reduced" your ability, but not "removed". So this is where the semantics start to muddy the waters. Your definition of "defend" is different than mine. Our definitions of "choose" are different. I think the option between two bad situations is still a choice. I have to "choose" between one bad outcome and another bad outcome. I can also be "forced" into those choices. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/14/22 at 13:56:04 They were not forced. They chose to keep their job instead of taking alternatives. Yes some of those alternatives are sh!tty, like being homeless. They chose to not be homeless, lose their kids, etc. it's still, to me, a choice. Taking rights and freedoms slowly really is the right way, innit, E? The bully on the school yard ,offers you choices. Hey! You Get a Choice! Uhh,,excuse me!? When is it time to tell the people who offer us choices, and each choice is destructive to my life, that They can pound sand. The bully NEVER STOPS until someone makes him regret his actions. Calling it a choice when the options are Risk death or injury, short term. Nobody has a Clue what long term effects will be. Homeless,, REALLY? I'm supposed to take you seriously? That you can't call it being forced, Until someone tackles you and jams the needle in.. Based on what I've seen, I'm not comfortable about the future for the jabbed. I wish my daughter was not. |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Eegore on 01/14/22 at 15:28:50 "aking rights and freedoms slowly really is the right way, innit, E?" As long as people continue fabricate words I never SAID. When have I said anyone should be required to take the vaccine? "The bully on the school yard ,offers you choices. Hey! You Get a Choice! Uhh,,excuse me!?" Yes. That to me is what a choice is. If a Bully holds you down and forced a worm into your mouth you did not have a choice. If the Bully says eat the worm or I put a blade in your gut, you have a choice to eat that worm or not. Both are sh!tty, choices, but you have a choice. You were forced to make a choice between two sh!tty outcomes. That's life. Manipulating it to sound like there was "No choice" is nonsense. There is coercion, I have always said that. But because I am not using the word "forced" exactly like you do, and "choice" exactly like you do that can only mean, to you, that I am pro-vaccine mandates. And so we go the circle again where you claim I SAID something and I use actual references of my actual words written here to show I did not say those things, and attempt to clarify again that having a different opinion on one word is not equal to saying "I think every man woman and child in the world must be forced to take a vaccine against their will and Freedom should not exist and should only be removed at a very specific low-value intervals." I think if you have the option of choosing between two outcomes, sh!tty or not, you have a choice. You can be forced into making a choice. Why does that have to mean anything other than what my words actually say? |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/15/22 at 01:18:13 Bachelorette’ contestant Clint Arlis dies suddenly at 34… Hmm,it does not Say.. Wasn't a wreck,,or gunshot,, I Wonder what it was..... |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/22 at 17:41:29 Eeeek! |
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Title: Re: I'm Goin to be posting stuff Post by Serowbot on 01/28/22 at 08:27:01 Okay,... Eeeek! |
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