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Message started by Jeremy Pavleck on 02/04/23 at 19:24:04

Title: Removed bike alarm and now...
Post by Jeremy Pavleck on 02/04/23 at 19:24:04

So there was some kind of cheesy bike alarm on my savage. It had 3 wires. Red, Black and Blue. Red and black are for positive and negative, and the 3rd wire wrapped around one from the key - a brown one - see the pic.

Well, someone leaned something against it and smashed the little box so I decided I might as well remove it - it's only got 3 wires what could it be doing?

Now that it's off, it won't start unless the kickstand is up and the neutral light won't come on at all so this must mess with the neutral interlock.

Any ideas how to fix this?

http://https://i.imgur.com/LDmlnNq.jpg

Title: Re: Removed bike alarm and now...
Post by Yoshi on 02/04/23 at 22:42:44

Your picture came out gigantic but I saved it and it's downsized
Where is the black and red connected to?

Title: Re: Removed bike alarm and now...
Post by verslagen1 on 02/05/23 at 06:55:21

I'd have to guess that the black and red are to the battery and the blue is a disarm wire.  

Remove the 3 wires then drop kick the box into the trash heap.

Title: Re: Removed bike alarm and now...
Post by Jeremy Pavleck on 02/06/23 at 10:15:11

Thats the problem!
Once I removed it the bike wouldn't start unless the kick stand was up. There's no neutral light anymore and I just don't understand why.

Now it's possible the 2 aren't related, but it's an odd coincidence that as soon as I took it off that it wouldn't start without the kickstand up.
Black went to battery ground, red went to positive and the blue wire went to that brown wire from the switch.

The only way something like that could work in my mind is if they cut the neutral interlock wire and then the alarm would supply the voltage or ground to make the neutral come on when it was disarmed, but the wire is intact.

Title: Re: Removed bike alarm and now...
Post by Ruttly on 02/06/23 at 12:32:56

Check fuses , often happens when cutting wires. Get a manual with a diagram , you’ll find it.

Title: Re: Removed bike alarm and now...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/23 at 14:47:06

something like that could work in my mind is if they cut the neutral interlock wire and then the alarm would supply the voltage or ground to make the neutral come on when it was disarmed, but the wire is intact.

Well,Poot,, I was thinking the neutral light circuit had been interrupted..

If you knew who made the alarm and looked up the installation insurrections that might help.

Seems like Something is up with the N light.. You Know it's Not burned out?
Times like this require checking connections.

Start with the basic stuff.

Connections, grounds,
The N light wire is good..
From where to where?
Where does the voltage come from?
Why is it not lighting the light?

Title: Re: Removed bike alarm and now...
Post by verslagen1 on 02/06/23 at 15:42:01

right, start with the basic stuff, most of the safeties are pretty simple.

The neutral switch goes to ground, pull the connector (blue wire up near the decomp solenoid) and check continuity with ground when in neutral.

Check the neutral light, they do burn out.

Hopefully one of these is the problem cause the last link in the chain is a diode buried in the harness.

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