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Title: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by ohiomoto on 06/28/23 at 04:50:30 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCts-qNa2FI[/media] Speed 400 http://https://www.cycleworld.com/resizer/urzzCBk7ac8e7ySI8btuqORWvxg=/1440x0/filters:focal(719x576:729x586)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/octane/OQJ6G54GJBBRHGNKWPFCL2O7W4.jpg Scrambler 400 X http://https://www.cycleworld.com/resizer/XrRD4fpPH8CNAUzInW_iU0rrJmM=/1440x0/filters:focal(772x583:782x593)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/octane/VIJZLCZ7BNAU5FIVIJMLRGYZLM.jpg |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by ohiomoto on 06/28/23 at 05:03:17 I actually like these better than the Bonneville T100 which is really the only modern-era Triumph I would consider. Not as retro but I think the lines are more balanced. T100 http://https://cdp.azureedge.net/products/USA/TM/2023/MC/CRUISER/BONNEVILLE_T100/50/JET_BLACK/2000000018.jpg |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/23 at 08:14:29 While pricing has not yet been announced, Triumph says both the 2024 Triumph Speed 400 and Scrambler 400 X will be attractively priced versus the key competitors in each market. Dangitt |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Dave on 06/29/23 at 07:37:20 The specs show 39.5 horsepower. That is great.....I believe 30HP is a minimum to be able to keep up with traffic on the USA highways. The price is expected to be around $5,000. https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/triumph-speed-400-first-look/ |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by J Mac on 06/29/23 at 18:24:23 Cool. I like that price. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by MMRanch on 06/29/23 at 18:53:20 I think the rest of the story might show up in the torque figures: Versys 300 = 19.2 ft/lbs/10,000 40 HP. Over 11,000 rpm RE 350"J" = 20 ft/lbs/ 4,000 21 HP 6,100 Triumph 400 = 27.7 ft/lbs/ 6,500 39.5 HP 8,000 LS650 = 37 ft/lbs/ 3,400 31 HP 6,500 Seems odd that the one with the highest HP has the lowest torque. Thump - Thump - Thump ... Really , I'm thinking --- that Triumph is going to take a chunk of the market ! It's got some Torque and Some HP too !! https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/triu/triumph-scrambler-400x-2024.html |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by zipidachimp on 06/30/23 at 00:35:54 How come all these cool bikes are coming to market when I'm approaching the end of my riding days???? Timing has never been my strength, rats! Cheers! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Dave on 06/30/23 at 03:34:49 607260727F6C636E652D0 wrote:
That doesn't surprise me at all.....the Kawasaki is a parallel twin and all the other engines are single cylinder. The Kawasaki makes the HP by having 2 smaller pistons revving a bunch faster than a single. The twin would be a better engine for highway use where you want to maintain faster cruising speeds.......riding in the curvy mountain roads would require that you shift more often than a single. (My little Kawasaki 250 required you to shift down 2 gears whenever you came out of a tight uphill corner in the mountains - but it could go 80mph on the interstate all day long). |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 06/30/23 at 12:39:11 I think we are amidst a thumper renaissance , what was old is new , again. If your rode a thumper as a youngster it is very likely you will revert back to a thumper as you age. Most have other bike(s) too. Twins are fun but thumpers are satisfying , can’t explain the difference. I’m hard into the Thumper side of camp. Come on BSA get with the plan ! The longer BSA takes the smaller their market share is becoming. Triumph just stole BSA’s USA market , brilliant time to release the new thumpers.Very attractive bikes , if price point is a value they will sell a ton of those bikes. Getting the new thumpers to USA market before BSA , could be huge for Triumph and possibly crippling for BSA ! Snooze you loose ! |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 06/30/23 at 12:53:58 Just saw it in the pic , right there in my face ! The Triumph single is going to be a great , yup you guessed it One badas$ flat tracker ! Close your eyes an imagine some fiber glass bodywork on it with 19” hoops Some real sexy shapes and lines. This bike should sell real well. 8-) Honda will miss out on market share too by not importing the GB350 ! :-/ |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 06/30/23 at 22:45:50 Let’s hope Triumph isn’t dangling a carrot like BSA has been for years. Can they deliver ? To the US market ? RE with good bikes at a good price. Can they , will they try to compete in that same market , I think it would be great timing ( sooner the better ) for Triumph. I’m not gettin excited till the local dealer has a few on the floor. I noticed the tail section of the frame is a bolt on , what ever you want. Road racer , flat tracker , standard , just make a new tail section for the bodywork. I like that feature. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by MMRanch on 07/01/23 at 05:28:12 I think we are amidst a thumper renaissance Hay Zip , you are Soooo lucky ... now that your of the right age all these small and LIght (Old Man) Thumpers are showing up. !!! :) How LUCKY CAN WE GET ??? ;) The RE 350 "J" has a "Performance Cam" now that kicks the power level up about 20% , an air filter system 5% , exaust 5% , and a fuel modular thing 5-10% , Torque and HP numbers both. Makes it a different bike from what I understand ... :-? It's already Torque rich for a air cooled 350 single. Honda is going to have to bring the CB350 air cooled single to the USA now too ! It's even prettier than the Meteor is !! ;) |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Serowbot on 07/01/23 at 07:45:44 That looks like one heck of a bike! |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by ohiomoto on 07/01/23 at 17:33:29 Mag wheels, inverted forks, monoshock, and water cooling remove these bikes from the "Retro" category. But the "Retro" seat and tank have an allure. I think the frame is a little more traditional as well. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by MMRanch on 07/01/23 at 19:42:49 This needs to come to the USA in a 500cc bike. https://www.rideapart.com/news/491449/honda-cb350-wide-global-release-rumors/ |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/01/23 at 19:52:37 It's about at the top of my weight limit. It sounds like it's got everything I want in a bike. Have they said what the seat height is? |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 07/02/23 at 13:24:25 Haven’t seen a spec sheet on it yet. Only visual thing on the bike I absolutely can’t stand , totally makes the bike look thrown together without any prior planning or they were too far down the line to go back and change it. Gives it a Chinese like quality look to the bike , besides paint work. Most here know me pretty good by now. Who here sees what I’m seeing ? Clue : you rarely see it on any bike , let alone on a so called quality bike. So chime in , let me know what is that visual distraction that is just plain old crappy looking ! For me it could be a deciding factor not to buy it , shame on you Triumph ! Who can see it ? Let’s here it ! |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 07/02/23 at 13:32:16 I’ll bet it’s being built in India , the biggest market , makes total sense. India , Europe and then the US , that tells me 1 to 2 years before we’ll see it. I do like that it’s not a parallel twin and it is their engine not some Honda clone. Probably like the BSA , jointly developed , with Rotax. Real world is Triumph gives them a rough draft of engines looks and then Rotax does what it does best is build engines. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by ohiomoto on 07/02/23 at 19:33:54 The dingleberry horn Ruttly? I don't dig it but not many people will sit on a rock and stare at the bike for hours, so I'll forgive and forget. If I had a scrambler, I would pull the headlight screen. It's just too trendy for me. I'm pretty much fine with everything about these for the price point they are targeting. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by jcstokes on 07/02/23 at 21:06:27 Will apparently be sold in New Zealand from January 2024, price unknown. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 07/02/23 at 22:14:44 No , but I missed that I’ll have to go back and look. Are we knocking off more points ? |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 07/02/23 at 23:37:16 Hopefully they fix that pre production , definite eye sore. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Dave on 07/04/23 at 04:19:17 1C3B3A3A22374E0 wrote:
I don't believe I see what you dislike. Everything I see appears to be pretty common on modern motorcycles. I am not a fan of the rear fender extenders/license plate mounts or short front fenders that are on a lot of bikes these days, and I would prefer proper fenders that actually keep crap from being thrown on you and/or the bike. Even new sport touring bikes have front fenders that are really short and allow road debris/mud/water to be thrown up on the engine/frame. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 07/04/23 at 05:16:35 Clue : They did an excellent job of hiding it on both bikes , in plain view The first thing your eyes focuses on |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by TheSneeze on 07/04/23 at 09:25:46 The covers over the carb/intake area. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Dave on 07/04/23 at 14:30:02 I suppose the little emblems that say "SPEED" and "SCRAMBLER 400X" are a bit cheesy looking. I would likely remove those and paint or powder coat them to be a bit nicer looking. |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 07/04/23 at 15:30:12 Both Fuel tank use great colors that help hide imperfections. Big imperfections ! Both tanks are different capacity and don’t get me wrong I like both models , BUT ! The dimpled fuel tanks to me screams CHEAP and these bikes deserve better. Dimples for space relief for triple trees and fork legs is well hidden. I have to say it looks like crap , the graphics just continue the trendy cheap look. And the properly named Dingleberry horn. If I wanted cheesy graphics I’d buy a R/E. Let the YouTube reviews roll , see what they find out. Clearly not excited Yet ! |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Ruttly on 07/08/23 at 10:17:26 The Topic Terminator strikes again |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by Serowbot on 07/08/23 at 11:44:34 They could have made the tanks lower capacity... I'll take the dimples. In fact,... they look kinda' cool... |
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Title: Re: Triumph's 400 Thumpers Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/23 at 19:19:25 7C6E7C6E63707F7279310 wrote:
I'm liking that |
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