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Message started by eau de sauvage on 03/19/24 at 22:55:52

Title: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/19/24 at 22:55:52

Congress is rightly up in arms over TikTok, introducing bill to ban or force to divest any Chinese ownership. I know Trump wants to look tough on China, but this is a bit heavy handed no?

I mean are they really a national security threat. Trump seems to think so.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) told Fox News Sunday anchor Shannon Bream that TikTok was an “enormous threat,” even going so far as to admit that former President Donald Trump was “right” about the risks posed by the Chinese-owned social medial platform.

Chinese video-sharing app TikTok has gone to court to challenge a ban imposed by US President Donald Trump.
President Trump's executive order prohibits transactions with TikTok's owner ByteDance from mid-Septembe https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53894586

Biden reverses Trump order. But there is now bipartisan support.

Biden Revokes and Replaces Trump Order That Banned TikTok
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/09/us/politics/biden-tiktok-ban-trump.html

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by thumperclone on 03/20/24 at 04:09:26

trump is now a supporter
one of his cronies is an investor in tik tok

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by zevenenergie on 03/20/24 at 04:58:01

I think you are far too naive if you think that the Chinese government have not been bussy to take over world power since 1949.

But not only that, they are preparing a war against America.

Just look at all the military basses in America.

The Chinese have bought up all the land around military bases.
That's not to raise daisies.

You may want to elect a bribed government (the Democrats led by Biden), but then you know for sure that you have to learn Cantonese.

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by thumperclone on 03/20/24 at 05:07:28

You may want to elect a bribed government (the Democrats led by Biden), but then you know for sure that you have to learn Cantonese.[/quote]

B.S.

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/20/24 at 06:19:22

So you think trump was right to want to ban tik tok?

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by Eegore on 03/20/24 at 07:40:21

I'd say the chances of regaining this level of bipartisan support would require a decent amount of empirical evidence, not just conjecture and assumptions.

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by zevenenergie on 03/20/24 at 07:54:08

77657172656361040 wrote:

So you think trump was right to want to ban tik tok?

Yes, I think it is wise.

The Chinese CCP was mainly founded to conquer the world. They themselves never made any bones about it.
They do not have a government that uses a different strategy every 4 years.

They have set goals and know exactly what they need to do to achieve them and they have been working on them unchanged for 75 years.

They know exactly what they are doing and every Chinese company serves their purpose or is put at the service of that purpose.

This also involves digging for data and edit public opinion via social media.
All smart instruments from China spy on everything and everyone and can be controlled remotely, and I am also talking about industrial installations.

I do think that Trump is using this ban on ticktok for political gain, but it is also a very good idea to restrict China where they are working on their strategy.

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/20/24 at 08:06:09

@zevern,

Ha ha, it was a trick question that shows you that Trump says whatever is good for him at that moment and the GOP all go along with him because they are gutless sycophants.

When he thinks it's good to bash tiktok he does. But one of the investors in TikTok has 33 Billion dollars invested, and he also donates to Trump and said no more money.

https://time.com/6900348/tiktok-ban-donald-trump-congress/

The thing is Zevern, the people who Trump hates the most, are the people who love him the most. Trump craves the adoration of the Hollywood celebrities, because he considers himself one of them but they ridicule him.

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZMS8b3DGN8

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/20/24 at 08:18:41

Trump answered Kimmel reading his mean tweet, and he still keeps going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an0l0osfNF0

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by Serowbot on 03/20/24 at 08:23:42

We have a symbiotic relationship with China
They make cr@p and we buy it
Neither survives without the other

Military build-up just feeds the machine
It's a ruse

a Mexican stand-off

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by zevenenergie on 03/20/24 at 09:00:49

And in the meantime the sun is shining, the grass is growing, the birds are singing, the wind is blowing.

And the politicians consider themselves very important.

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by zevenenergie on 03/20/24 at 09:12:10

44564241565052370 wrote:

Well, I really won't go into all those opinions of others about Trump's actions. I don't watch those kinds of videos. And if you're trying to catch me, and I'm caught in your opinion, Fine, if that makes you happy, bless you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENzLb85b1Do

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by MnSpring on 03/20/24 at 11:21:07

"...Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group trying to cross into the U.S. from Mexico. Last year, U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported 37,000 Chinese citizens were apprehended as they illegally crossed the border; that's 50 times more than two years earlier. ..."

"...What I find most remarkable in these figures is the speed with which the number of Chinese migrants is growing. Nearly 10 times as many Chinese migrants crossed the southern border..."

"... There has also been a sharp increase in encounters with citizens of China ..."

"... An estimated 55% of Chinese asylum seekers are successful in making their claims ..."

"... Thousands of Chinese migrants have also made their way to New York, with many following on the heels of migrants from Central and South America and crossing at the United States-Mexico border. Once they reach the city, however, many are tapping into long-established family and social networks in Chinese enclaves ..."

"... The number of Chinese migrant encounters recorded by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents has seen a massive spike in the year to date. ..."

"... the number of Chinese migrants has soared. There were 52,700 Chinese migrants arriving without a valid entry visa at land borders, and on boats and planes, during the federal government’s fiscal year 2023, ... ... more than double the number just two years earlier, ... ... Those numbers did not include people who came in without encountering border officials or later overstayed their visas. ..."

"... there had been a massive surge in Chinese nationals crossing the southern border, many of whom are military-age men with known ties to the ruling Chinese Communist Party and the People's Liberation Army, ..."

"... 20,273 encounters were registered at the southern land border, of which 17,495—or around 86 percent—were single adults ..."

"... the overwhelming majority were unaccompanied adults. ..."

And on, and on, and on ... ... ...

So exactly how do you explain that,
especially when reports say,
most appear to be 20-30,
Military age males ?

(Info from Pages and pages of web reports)

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/20/24 at 15:15:09

@mnspring,

I only need to glance at your post to get the drift, it's the favourite GOP talking point. But here the thing, now I do not know if you really follow politics or you just read the headlines so what I'm about to write I do not know if you are even aware of it, but here goes.

James Lankford, R-Okla, he is a hard right on the border as you can get, he was in charge of the border bill negotiation, he is the one in the SOTU address who could be seen mouthing the words "all true" as Biden spoke about the border deal.

It was the toughest border deal in 40 years, because the border has been a failure on everyone's watch. The bill he negotiated that was passed in the Senate and the President, and had overwhelming support by the House republicans,

If you proposed a bill like that when the democrats held the floor, it would have be laughed out, the progressive democrats did not like it. But it died, because Speaker Maga Mike Johnson and his pr0n loving son Jack Johnson (you can't make this up) REFUSED to bring the bill to the floor, precisely because it would pass.

And what this revealed is the truth that Maga Mike is even weaker than Kevin McCarthy, he killed the bill that contained a list of Republican wet dreams about the border.

Which is why it's pointless to read your post because Biden called the bluff, the republican don't really give a rat's ass about the border if it means that they can use it to coerce the ignorant.

So complaining about the border and pinning it on the Democrats, doesn't work any more, Biden gave them what they wanted and they still rejected it.

So what is the point of still complaining about it. Did you read the bill that Trump ordered Maga Mike to kill?

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/senate-vote-border-bill-aid-02-07-24/h_3263c78238d0d2de96a203fad7fd9e94

Title: Re: TikTok must divest to a non Chinese
Post by MnSpring on 03/20/24 at 15:31:46

4A584C4F585E5C390 wrote:

"... I do not know if you really follow politics or you just read the headlines ..."

WOW
Coming from someone,
that believes Chicken Noodle News,
is not completely,
'ONE SIDED'

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