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Message started by eau de sauvage on 03/21/24 at 05:34:44

Title: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dementia
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/21/24 at 05:34:44

@mnspring, this thread is for you, because you raised the point in my MEGATHREAD countdown to the Election, which I won't answer in that thread as I say at the top. So if you want to go to war about which one of Trump or Biden, has dementia. We can do it here, let's see what you got to back up your claims. I'll go first.

In this interview Dr John Gartner is interviewed by David Pakman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gartner_(psychologist)

Explains the difference between normal ageing, and actual dementia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuZw_8mM6xE

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/21/24 at 05:44:29

Let's talk about the MoCA which is the actual test that Trump has been boasting about acing.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/alzheimers-and-montreal-cognitive-assessment-moca-98617

The test is used for adults 55 to 85 with early signs of dementia (the progressive loss of intellectual functioning, especially memory and abstract thinking)

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-cognitive-test-how-to-take-moca-2020-7?op=1

Take the actual MoCA Test yourself... https://mocacognition.com/paper



Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by thumperclone on 03/21/24 at 08:28:25

I wonder if it is hereditary, that's what his dad died with

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by MnSpring on 03/21/24 at 10:23:53


Quote:

392B3F3C2B2D2F4A0 wrote:
"... Take the actual MoCA Test yourself...

         Excellent Advice !!!!!
When will you publish your results ?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by WebsterMark on 03/22/24 at 04:51:08

The idea of Biden lovers criticizing Trump for dementia is the ultimate frying pan calling the kettle black.

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/22/24 at 05:34:26

@Thumperclone I wonder if it is hereditary, that's what his dad died with

I did not know that, that is seriously possible, as the clear signs of dementia can be clearly seen if you look at clips from 20 years ago. He used to have a vocablulary, but now he just has a few superlatives, horrible beautiful, the biggest, no ones ever seen anything like it, ect.

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@MnSpring, seriously is that you going to war? So does that mean you can't back up your claim that Biden has dementia other than just asserting it. OKaaay, I was expecting a bit more from you, that was easy. Come back when you can offer up some proof of actual demential.

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@WM The idea of Biden lovers criticizing Trump for dementia is the ultimate frying pan calling the kettle black.

OMG, is that it, again just your assertion. Ya gotta come up with more than that. I went first you can even criticise that if you can't offer anything to shore up your opinion. Kettle black and all that. Is that really it. This is too easy surely you can find something objective.

Frying pan and kettle? I think you're confusing Pot and Kettle, and out of the frying pan into the fire, which is where Trump will be on Monday.

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by MnSpring on 03/22/24 at 07:42:26


Quote:

584A5E5D4A4C4E2B0 wrote:
"...offer up some proof of actual demential..."


LOLOLOLOLOLLLLOLOLOLOLOL

      Don't have to !!!

Your, 'proof', is a seriously TDS infected, CNN backed, poll taker, who has violated the absolute fundamental, rule, that without personalty examining a person, a diagnosis, can not be made.

He is ONLY stating his 'PERSONAL' opinion,
and, "SAYS" he has backers,
(WHO WILL NOT NAME THEMSELVES)

Stevie Wonder,
     AND
Ray Charles,

Can see,
only the LEMMINGS,
Are believing !!!

;D
;D
;D
;D
;D
;D ;D ;D ;D




Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/23/24 at 02:13:31

@mnspring, see what I mean about not bothering to argue with people like you. What do I mean by 'like you', well, I sometimes read the comments on the Breitbart forum because I find them fascinating, there's not much arguing there it's just well it's kinda... you'll need to see for yourself, I might do a post on it sometime.

But the similarity is that on the Breitbart forum it's just people making statements, and they all agree with each other, today they were having a go at Maga Mike he is about as right wing Christian nationalist, come to Jesus as it's possible to be, one would think. I mean this guy will do anything Trump says, he killed the toughest border bill in decades containing he harshest measures that's they never though they would get, Biden was ready to sign it, it was going to pass both houses, but as you know Trump thinks it's good for him (trump) to not fix the border.

Strangely enough Trump said, he's proud he killed the bill and to blame it on him. Which is kinda nuts because now the RNC is running fear mongering ads about the border, BUT, Trump said "blame it on me".?!

I don't bother trying to understand this the public are sick of it. But the point I was making was that this is how far Maga Mike is up Trump's ass. Yet because he did pretty well the same thing McCarthy did that lost him his job after coveting it for so long and then after 15 rounds of humiliation because he agreed that one person can call for a removal vote because that was the only way he could get the job. Then Gaetz pulled the trigger.

So because Maga Mike was only 99% insane that was not good enough and the breitbarters... well here's a sample..

We are better off without a Speaker. They are all tools for the Left, and nothing can get done without a Speaker. Johnson gave a few hours to review this bill, which officially makes him a LYING DOG FACED WEASEL. Throw the bum out!

This is what it is like there, and as far as engaging with me you just repeat the same stuff that one sees on all the breitbart forums. Which is fine, but that was my point about not bothering to argue with trump voters.

So where were we, oh yeah I post a threat to show that while Biden shows signs of age, only Trump shows signs of actual dementia.

I mean you disagree, but you don't offer any proof, or even what you term proof even if it isn't. You just kinda assert it and that's the end of the matter. Like you say "I don't have to show it because it's true'.

Yes the psychiatrist being interviewed did mention the Goldwater rule that you reference, but he's not in practice so it doesn't apply to him. You then went on to discount him because he didn't examine trump personally.

And while that is true, that was part of the very point he was making, dementia is not like alzheimers, dementia is more subtle and the point is that it is usually diagnosed not by examination of the person but by observation, by interview his loved ones. So for people who know the signs it's pretty clear.

The signs are not getting a name wrong we all do that, the signs are a collapse of the centres of the brain that process words, and the inability to say words, one example he pointed to was trump trying to say the word "later" and he said, three times in a slurring way "lady...lady...layd.

That is just one.

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by zevenenergie on 03/23/24 at 02:37:16

Your text reflects a critical perspective on political discourse, particularly concerning Trump and his supporters. It emphasizes the importance of providing evidence and reasoning in arguments and suggests skepticism towards blindly following political figures. Additionally, it engages with the topic of mental health, specifically dementia, in relation to public figures.

But you are deeply emotionally invested in the forum's discussions and are quick to react aggressively to perceived disruptions. you prioritize maintaining order and controlling the conversation, even if it means resorting to insults and dismissals. This behavior may hinder productive discourse and contribute to a hostile atmosphere within the forum.

I suspect that you also did that on the Breitbart forum. And that you were no longer tolerated there?

What made you so active here al of the sudden?

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/23/24 at 03:40:35

Wot a fcking sad pathetic little troll you are. Fcuk off dips!t

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by WebsterMark on 03/23/24 at 05:41:38


2B392D2E393F3D580 wrote:
Wot a fcking sad pathetic little troll you are. Fcuk off dips!t


We’ve settled into regular sides on this, as E calls it, a complaint forum. And while we take pot shots at each other, you dropped a bomb. That comment is way out of bounds and you should be immediately expelled.

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by Eegore on 03/23/24 at 05:52:58

That comment is way out of bounds and you should be immediately expelled.


 You can't be serious, go back and look at what JoG used to call people, he never got "expelled".   Same goes for others.



Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by WebsterMark on 03/23/24 at 10:56:09

I don’t recall Jog going that far.

And for the record, I’m against booting people for that. I just know if I said that, I’d hear about it.

So if that’s the standard, fine.

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by Eegore on 03/23/24 at 12:39:25

And for the record, I’m against booting people for that. I just know if I said that, I’d hear about it.


 That sounds accurate.
 

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by zevenenergie on 03/23/24 at 14:17:23

I am one of the moderators on a Dutch forum where there is a friendly atmosphere, we are one of the few forums that are still lively and receive new members every week. I'm sure if we allowed this kind of behavior there would be a exodus.

I think eau has a bit of an issu, so I don't take it personally. And it's the political department. I understand that I'm not a saint either. But I'm also surprised that someone can let themselves go like that without being moderated.
But I also realize that this is America and that you can encounter all kinds of extremes here.

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by eau de sauvage on 03/23/24 at 15:53:05

Zev, don't flatter yourself. If this was a modern forum I could just disappear you with the ignore button. You're just taking advantage of that. If I was engaging with you in other threads it would be a different matter but I"m not, you can ignore me but I cannot stop you vandalising my threads. Posting lengthy quotes and then a single line non sequitur. This is how people carried on before the 'ignore' button was introduced, that's why it doesn't happen on your forum.

lol at WM suggesting I get expelled because you seek me out in my own threads to vandalise them. That is so not going to happen.

Title: Re: Professionals agree Trump shows classic dement
Post by Serowbot on 03/24/24 at 08:08:02

We're having a little uptick in participation. energizing the conversation, and I don't want to quell that.
Please do try to police yourselves and focus on topics rather than each other.

Peace
Serow

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