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Title: How the English see Donald Trump Post by eau de sauvage on 03/21/24 at 07:05:41 https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/satire/why-do-some-british-people-not-like-donald-trump-135275/ Someone on Quora asked, “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote this response… A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief. Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty. Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, D!ck Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: * Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. * You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man. This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of nuts. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created? If being a tw@t was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.” |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by Serowbot on 03/21/24 at 08:25:24 Trump is the stereotypical uncouth American that many Europeans unfairly believe average Americans to be ... and MAGA's unfortunately love him for it |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by thumperclone on 03/21/24 at 08:25:41 "rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid" |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by zevenenergie on 03/21/24 at 15:25:52 There is no person in the world who has caused so much of a stir among people and who has faced as much negativity as Donald Trump. What even Nate White, who is seen as smart, did not realize was that it was only the negativity within himself that was triggered by Trump and which he then projected onto Trump. So it doesn't say anything about Trump, but it does say about what Nate White is provoked by and about the negativity that resides in him. And every person has a soul. It cannot be otherwise. Just look at how strong Trump is, no one else in the world has faced as much criticism and negativity as he has and at his age he still manages to become president against enormous opposition. If that power does not come from the soul, then where does it come from? |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by Serowbot on 03/21/24 at 16:14:18 Being an A-hole don't make you strong :-? |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by WebsterMark on 03/22/24 at 04:49:41 You guys are funny. When everybody thought Trump was a liberal, you loved him. The NAACP gave him awards, Hollywood fawned over him, all those Bela celebrities who get invited to parties because they trash truck now used to beg to be on the show. Trump had the potential to save this country for decades to come. But he blew it. He could not get out of his own way. He’s not the slimeball most of you make him out to be, and he’s not the savior many others make him out to be. He is who he is and I know exactly who he is. And he would be a better president than Joe Biden, but not a better president than Ron DeSantis. Far as how people in England see him, who gives a flying fxxx. |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by thumperclone on 03/22/24 at 06:39:40 724047565140576844574E250 wrote:
bestter president?? by being a dictator?? |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by Serowbot on 03/22/24 at 08:21:19 4B797E6F68796E517D6E771C0 wrote:
Did we change or did he? |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by WebsterMark on 03/22/24 at 09:24:40 475B465E435641505F5C5D56330 wrote:
bestter president?? by being a dictator?? [/quote] You do know Puddinhead is waving his hand and issuing executive orders such as “canceling” student debt don’t you? |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by WebsterMark on 03/22/24 at 09:26:50 2B3D2A372F3A372C580 wrote:
Did we change or did he?[/quote] You. If Trump had run and won as a Democrat and kept the same policies, you’d be wearing a blue MAGA hat and demanding a wall be built. |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by WebsterMark on 03/22/24 at 09:37:07 There’s very little you fundamentally disagree with Trump on. If Trump wore blue, you would say he’s not being Islamaphobic, he’s just limiting travel from those countries who don’t have proper passport control. and on and on…. Trump got the vaccine out in record time. Trump was forward thinking and wondering what other future technologies such as UV light and disinfectants could be used to control Covid once in the body. He was brilliantly calling for more research. At Charlottesville, you would’ve said Trump rightly called out the white supremacist, but also said those in favor of leaving statues up from a historical point of view and those who wanted to remove them from a historical point of view, are both fine people and their opinion should be respected. And you would’ve said that was a brilliant way to handle the situation. You would have said Trump didn’t start any useless wars for poor people to fight in and even ended the one handed to him rather quickly. |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by MnSpring on 03/22/24 at 09:47:04 263A273F223720313E3D3C37520 wrote:
How about Sending in the SS to STEAL proof of a crime, for HIS son. Removing a State’s Power to PROTECT itself. Bribe Silence, using BILLIONS of YOUR, Dollars, to cover up. Requiring a person to get an experimental substance. Approve an agency/s to fine/allow people to do things. Just like Biden has done. And ON, and ON, and ON, and ON !!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by Serowbot on 03/22/24 at 11:13:02 102225343322350A26352C470 wrote:
If Biden were a Republican and had created the lowest unemployment in 50 years, had the Dow, NASDAQ, and S & P at record highs, passed an infrastructure bill the Trump never managed, biggest job growth ever, booming economy, drilling more oil then anyone ever, saving Ukraine and draining Russia using just a couple of percent of out military budget and no troops, and stopped a pandemic... Would you be cheering him? You should be anyway |
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Title: Re: How the English see Donald Trump Post by eau de sauvage on 03/22/24 at 20:37:12 @Serow. This is the bit that resonated with me because I suddenly realised that this is what I find so bizarre about some of the posters on this forum. Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. |
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