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Title: 18 months Post by Serowbot on 08/28/24 at 09:41:57 Trump wants you to know, 13 soldiers died in the Afghan pullout under Biden, which he ties to Kamala And no one died the last 18 months of his Presidency Except 63 soldiers actually died, 45 were hostile deaths ...but, Trump never lies So don't believe reality https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-old-man-trump-slurs-212218978.html "Trump continued to falsely claim that the sheer fact of his presidency had kept U.S. military members safe. “We didn’t have one soldier killed—even shot at in 18 months. And then these guys took over, and uh, big lack of respect. But they had a lot of respect for us during that period,” Trump said, calling himself “the first president in decades who started no new wars.” Trump’s claim that no soldiers were killed for 18 months in Afghanistan is blatantly untrue, according to Reuters. During Trump’s presidency, there were 45 hostile deaths and 63 total deaths, with no 18-month gap in casualties, including when Trump was negotiating an Afghanistan withdrawal, according to the Defense Casualty Analysis System for Operation Freedom’s Sentinel database." |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by JOG on 08/28/24 at 12:54:01 Well,that means Not letting the sniper drop the guy with the bomb was clearly the right move then, right? And abandoning everything and evacuating instead of an orderly withdrawal was sheer military genius! Good Job,biden.. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Serowbot on 08/28/24 at 13:19:39 No... that means Trump lies his a$$ off and MAGA will believe anything he says and go along with it |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/28/24 at 13:49:54 1204130E16030E15610 wrote:
So glad Harris/Walz has Never That way you don't have to "... believe anything he (she) says and go along with it..." |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Serowbot on 08/28/24 at 15:56:16 They lie less Trump is the king of lies Alternate facts... and fake news... are phrases that didn't exist before Trump Birtherism too |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by JOG on 08/28/24 at 17:33:00 Trump is a dictator,, literally Hitler. So, when he left office and biden took over, all the rights that The Dictator had taken away from you were restored. Name them.. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/28/24 at 17:56:15 4B7E6D756E696D7E680C0 wrote:
Yea !!! NAME THEM. Name ALL the FREEDOMS, that a Dictator took away from you !!!!! NAME THEM !!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by JOG on 08/28/24 at 18:09:57 5147504D55404D56220 wrote:
So, Kamala wasn't lying herASSoff about Joetato ? Funny thing,, I didn't spend much time listening to him and watching him, but I was able to notice the decline. But the media and the Whitehouse all marched in lockstep, denying the obvious, even trying to spin video of him stumbling around lost as some kind of fakes. Who Is running the country? It's sure asPHUKK not Joetato.. Kamala? Phht.. She's practicing not letting today be burdened by what was. Too bad Today isn't burdened by the Sanity of the days before the science of all of history when men couldn't get pregnant. Still waiting on that first birth from a man. Duude! You just Thought that kidney stone hurt.. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/29/24 at 05:34:09 Yea !!! NAME THEM. Name ALL the FREEDOMS, that a Dictator took away from you !!!!! NAME THEM !!!!!!! This assumes the only outcome of a Dictator is to remove freedoms. This is incorrect and thus is a flawed argument. Trump wins and dictates by executive order that the entire country is now Constitutional Carry. Trump dictates there will be no taxation on tips. He dictates chrome gas tanks on motorcycles are legal. He would then be a "Dictator" by process, but can you name the freedoms he removed? |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Serowbot on 08/29/24 at 06:58:39 1A390427253E3930570 wrote:
Yea !!! NAME THEM. Name ALL the FREEDOMS, that a Dictator took away from you !!!!! NAME THEM !!!!!!! [/quote] Ask women They will turn this election The one thing polls don't show well is first time voters They usually look to likely voters... people have have a record of voting How many women, and men that care about women, are fueled to vote by what Trump has done to their rights? |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by WebsterMark on 08/29/24 at 07:47:02 Ask women They will turn this election Maybe. Killing unborn babies is a form of birth control seems to be a popular leftist position. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Serowbot on 08/29/24 at 08:04:36 Whatever Web... |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by JOG on 08/29/24 at 08:15:22 Lying about what Trump did doesn't change it. He did what dictators DON'T do. He Decentralized Powah,, he put the Decision Making back to the States, where it belonged all along. And has publicly stated that he doesn't want a national ban on abortion. So, your butthurtedness is manufactured in your own mind. Well, not really. It's what you have been told to believe. There are the facts, ignore them along with the others. Roll on with the Trump bad, took abortion away from the wimmenz! |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by WebsterMark on 08/29/24 at 08:43:58 697F68756D78756E1A0 wrote:
The truth hurts. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by WebsterMark on 08/29/24 at 08:46:19 And regarding politicians that lie, all politicians lie. The truth is, Trump is the most honest politician out there. Harris is going around saying she’s canceling student debt. Nobody’s canceling anything. She’s transferring student debt from one group, the students to another group, me, a taxpayer. That’s as dishonest as it gets. Trump could say 1 million things and it won’t even come remotely close to that lie. And that’s just one lie she says. So yes, I’ll take Trump lies. They’re more honest. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/29/24 at 10:22:15 6040424A5740250 wrote:
Yes your argument, is a flawed argument A 'Dictator', Dictates something. Like, 'you must only wear blue pants'. Which 'removes' the freedom to wear red pants. Lets move on to something more complicated. Is it a 'Dictator' who Dictates, 'you cannot not kill another Human, unless they are trying to kill you' Or is it the consensus of several people, over a period of time ? |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/29/24 at 10:27:38 " Killing unborn babies is a form of birth control seems to be a popular leftist position " 85-90% of Abortion, is because a Aspirin is not held between the knees. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/29/24 at 10:32:25 4452455840555843370 wrote:
Trump did that, All by himself ? I thought is was a group of highly rated Judges, that made a decision. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/29/24 at 10:46:58 Yes your argument, is a flawed argument A 'Dictator', Dictates something. Like, 'you must only wear blue pants'. Which 'removes' the freedom to wear red pants. A "Dictator" dictates that there shall be no laws enacted by a government, that governs the color of clothes any human can wear. What freedom does that remove? Is it a 'Dictator' who Dictates, 'you cannot not kill another Human, unless they are trying to kill you' Or is it the consensus of several people, over a period of time ? If a Dictator dictates that - then it is a dictation from a Dictator. If a Dictator does not dictate that - then it is not a dictation from a Dictator. My point is it is not a requirement that freedoms be removed for a human to be a "Dictator". Requiring someone NAME freedoms that were removed is not addressing Dictatorship. Addressing process is what one needs to do. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/29/24 at 11:21:33 4F6F6D65786F0A0 wrote:
The ‘POINT’ is, you are not always correct. A example. Two people, they both read from, learn from, interpret from, the same books/information/studies. Yet who is correct, is determined by one person, sometimes 6 people, sometimes 9 people, sometimes 12 people. And sometimes the input from several thousand people come into play. So one person is not always correct, even if they say they are. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Serowbot on 08/29/24 at 11:35:48 I can tell when Trump's lying... his lips move :-? |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by WebsterMark on 08/29/24 at 11:47:47 And you think Biden Harris canceled student debt, huh? Sometimes I really miss sales. It was hard work, but a lot of fun and made serious money off of people like you…. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/29/24 at 13:50:50 The ‘POINT’ is, you are not always correct. A example. Two people, they both read from, learn from, interpret from, the same books/information/studies. Yet who is correct, is determined by one person, sometimes 6 people, sometimes 9 people, sometimes 12 people. And sometimes the input from several thousand people come into play. So one person is not always correct, even if they say they are I agree. One person is not always correct even if they say they are. Also a Dictator can be in control without removing freedoms, so requiring freedoms be NAMED to address Dictatorship is not the appropriate method to define a dictatorship action(s). |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by JOG on 08/29/24 at 13:52:55 Play with the words. Sophistry is so fun. Trump,, Literally Hitler! Over and over,, just like Everyone, including the lefties, everyone was abuzz with the excitement,, Kamala is The New Border Czar.. She, when Asked Why she hadn't yet Been to the border,rather than Counter with Why should I? I'm not the border czar... She deflected with I've never been to Paris,either.. Or some such Bullschitt.. So, E,who was very quick to try to spin it and pretend she never was, was fullaschitt,, again. Whatever the Definition of dictator IS is not nearly as important as How it is Meant when tossed out by the TDS crowd. Talk about Liars,, they refuse to even explain how it is that the Verrry Same guy who is in pictures, with awards FROM the Leaders of the black community, for His SERVICE TO the black community, became a Racist the moment he announced his candidacy.. And they try to accuse Me of being Intolerant of FACTS.. The black community is moving toward Trump. Unlike the white guilt laden ,they REMEMBER how much better off they were. Hell, they have such good memories, I've seen a few of them being interviewed and the invaders come up. THEY remember Kamala was the border czar.. I'll be generous,, I'll use Incorrect, too.. I wouldn't want TC to have to tell me I'm a Piece of Schitt Again. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/29/24 at 13:59:53 Or some such Bullschitt.. So, E,who was very quick to try to spin it and pretend she never was, was fullaschitt,, again. She wasn't. Mainstream media called her that. Should we call Trump a Dictator because mainstream media calls him that? If someone says I'm a commercial pilot because I can fly a plane, I will say I am not a commercial pilot. You will say I am spinning it to say I've never seen a plane in my life. Accuracy is not equal to support. You seem to have trouble understanding that. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/29/24 at 15:01:55 1636343C2136530 wrote:
Which is, Your, Opinion. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by JOG on 08/29/24 at 16:11:58 Yes, by her own admission. Border czar. You can pretend whatever you want. It wasn't JUST media, and it wasn't Only Mainstream media. Every conversation in America that included Border Czar was about HER. Who do your handlers Say it was? |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/29/24 at 16:54:44 Which is, Your, Opinion. Sure. So if a dictator says there shall be no law written that restricts the color of clothing humans can wear. What freedom is removed? |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/29/24 at 17:01:48 Yes, by her own admission. Border czar. So when you say this, do you mean she actually said she was the "Border Czar" by using those words? What does "her own admission" mean to you? To me that means she said the words Border and Czar to describe herself. When people say Trump is a Dictator, I would say he is not, even though he said he would be "for a day". But someone could say by his own admission he would be a Dictator. So is Trump a Dictator by his own admission? I say no because there is no Dictator position in US Government. Again, accuracy is not equal to support. Being accurate and Observing no human has been a Border Czar in the US government is not supporting any human's political affiliation or actions. Something you have a hard time understanding. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/29/24 at 17:25:36 6141434B5641240 wrote:
I am not going to play your games. It is simply, YOUR OPINION. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/29/24 at 18:00:00 I am not going to play your games. It is simply, YOUR OPINION. Yes. My opinion, based off evidence and objective truth, is that a Dictator does not always have to remove freedoms. Dictator is a position, not an action. One can prove Trump is not a Dictator without naming freedoms he took away, as that is not a requirement anyway. You asked people to name the freedoms Trump removed. NAME THEM !!!!!! with 7 exclamation points if I recall. I think it's fair to ask my own questions. Avoiding them changes no more than the people that ignore yours. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by JOG on 08/29/24 at 21:00:22 Great,, Show examples of Trump being a dictator. He improved the lives of so many lower income Americans. And not one hater can explain How in the Fukk Trump became a racist when he announced his candidacy. Did the people who gave him the awards get conned? How? It's okay, you lousy commies can lie to yourselves, you can pretend he's a racist and manufacture inside yourselves all the righteous indignation that would reasonably accompany that,, but you are just engaging in mental and emotional masturbation. Let's see someone show his racist ways. Kamala is a FUKKING sleeper,, Who can demonstrate one of those statements? I probably should have said Sukking, I know,, Owell. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by thumperclone on 08/30/24 at 02:32:10 Let's see someone show his racist ways. [/quote] just some: Mexicans are rapists as landlord avoiding renting to non whites,preferance to whites [per the feds] laziness is a trait in blacks Pocahontas |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by JOG on 08/30/24 at 03:35:32 223E233B263324353A393833560 wrote:
just some: Mexicans are rapists I'm going to rethink everything I know about him based on that? Where did that come from? That is the whole sentence and that was the message? Or is that what your butthurt heard? as landlord avoiding renting to non whites,preferance to whites [per the feds] Is that really racist? Or being smart? I WATCHED an apartment building go up,I threw papers near the site. It was Low income housing. In two years they had destroyed it. laziness is a trait in blacks You disagree with that? When they complain about the idea of Being on time is White Supremacy? It's bad to Say it,yeah it is UnGood, but it's true. Not ALL, but,you Know it's true. And plenty of whites are lazy. It Requires the ability to be reasonable in your thinking. You haven't demonstrated that. You know what percentage of the population blacks make up,right? Around 15%. And do you believe the reason prisons are so heavily loaded with blacks is because they are innocent? Pocahontas Shiit dude,that dumb bichh brought that on herself. She falsely claimed to be something she isn't. She made a laughingstock of herself. He pilloried her,she had it coming. You don't think it's Racist to claim to be a race you aren't? Naah,, you don't even understand it's Racist to Exclude Whites from places. Against White people isn't racist,, Except for the fact that Any decision that is based on race IS the definition of Racism. Arguments to the contrary are just sophistry. [/quote] So, how did he manage to be given the awards for doing things for the minority population if he isn't Niice to them? Come on,, you surely don't mind defeating a Piece of Schitt like me. He has given business loans to people who couldn't get any help anywhere else. When one guy came to pay him,according to the contract, Trump took the check, tore it up,told the man, Good,, now go run your business. And let the guy walk. Yeah, he hates blacks alright.. UhHuhh.. Cling to your Bullschitt, hate the best president this country has seen in a hundred years,, maybe ever. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/30/24 at 05:52:07 Great,, Show examples of Trump being a dictator. He wasn't. Removing freedoms has nothing to do with that. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by thumperclone on 08/30/24 at 06:21:56 jog feel free to research any of it your failure to see the racism of his statements goes to show your racism you can try to defend the orange felon all you want I'll let the FACTS speak for themselves attempting discussion with you is a waste of time |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/30/24 at 06:51:55 "... as landlord avoiding renting to non whites, ..." Wonder what the governor of CO thinks ? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/armed-venezuelan-gang-take-over-colorado-apartment-complex-in-shocking-footage-its-been-a-nightmare/ar-AA1pFRlh https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Venuswhaling+taking+over+housing+in+CO&ia=web And I wonder where they got (gasp) GUNS. When CO has such a handle on GUN CONTROL. OH YEA: " Denver — a sanctuary city — has received over 40,000 migrants to the suburb of 390,000 since December 2022. " |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/30/24 at 07:01:57 And I wonder where they got (gasp) GUNS. When CO has such a handle on GUN CONTROL. CO is open carry so it's cool. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/30/24 at 07:38:07 What about: "...The 8 gun bills passed by Colorado’s legislature this year and signed into law by the governor ..." https://coloradosun.com/2024/06/12/new-colorado-gun-laws-2024/ Wonder why this gun bill did NOT pass ? "...Stolen weapons A measure that would have increased the penalties for stealing a gun valued at less than $1,000 was rejected ..." |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by Eegore on 08/30/24 at 08:21:25 What about: "...The 8 gun bills passed by Colorado’s legislature this year and signed into law by the governor ..." That's all accurate. Wonder why this gun bill did NOT pass ? Overcrowding within the confines of facilities designed for the incarceration of criminals. They have been using this for years now to shoot down all kinds of in-facility penalization on any crime type under a specific percentage frequency threshold. |
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Title: Re: 18 months Post by MnSpring on 08/30/24 at 10:42:16 7656545C4156330 wrote:
Excellent reason for not having to increase penalties for stealing a gun. |
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