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Message started by Serowbot on 09/29/24 at 07:17:31

Title: Admit it now
Post by Serowbot on 09/29/24 at 07:17:31

You know as well as I, if Trump loses the election he will cry fraud, he won't concede, he won't admit he lost
This is a given

If you won't admit that, you are admitting that you are already prepared to deny the results without any evidence

Same as last time

All the evidence of fraud is on the Republican side
2020, and now 2024
Vote suppression,
Partizan electors refusing to certify results
Lawyers gearing up to dispute results
The machinery is all in place

Are you geared up to whine?
... or preparing for violence?
Can you accept a result that doesn't go your way?

Man up
It's takes a man to admit loss
Trump definitely won't

...and you know it


Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by JOG on 09/29/24 at 07:25:40

Why did the vote count go straight up at ,like, three am? Trump didn't lose. Look at the FUKKING support. Wake up. We're Voting for CHANGE?.The dumb beech has been in OFFICE for almost four years.. Of course he won't admit he lost. He has more support than anyone I've ever seen.

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by thumperclone on 09/29/24 at 09:27:40


1025362E3532362533570 wrote:
Why did the vote count go straight up at ,like, three am? Trump didn't lose. Look at the FUKKING support. Wake up. We're Voting for CHANGE?.The dumb beech has been in OFFICE for almost four years.. Of course he won't admit he lost. He has more support than anyone I've ever seen.


HE LOST BY 7 MILLION
we know you have a hardon for him just get over it

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Serowbot on 09/29/24 at 10:49:15

Since losing by 7 million last time. he has alienated women by overturning Roe v Wade, Jews by saying they are stupid if they don't vote for him, blacks by denying Harris' black father, LBGTQ in every way possible, legal immigrants by calling them rapists and murderers, educated voters by siding with racists, veterans by calling them suckers and losers, dissing the fallen, heroes, and POWMIA's.
Who's left?  The same poorly educated white male voters he had before, only fewer.

Most of his own former cabinet officials have spoke out against him, saying he's unfit for office and a danger to America.  You don't get that kind of mutiny without really earning it

He speaks about rounding up immigrants and political enemies and giving them numbers, putting them in detention camps, and rousting them or imprisoning them, maybe executing them
What former leader does that remind you of?
Even his own VP candidate has called him an American Hitler

Who is left to vote for an American Hitler?



Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by JOG on 09/29/24 at 19:26:56

Waltz got booed when he went to a game.
Here's how the People greet Trump..

https://wltreport.com/2024/09/29/president-trump-cheered-tim-walz-booed-crowds-recent/?utm_source=newsletter_ssp&_bhlid=68db48254592c7b241f918714c4f1187d8402898

https://wltreport.com/2024/09/29/president-trump-cheered-tim-walz-booed-crowds-recent/?utm_source=newsletter_ssp&_bhlid=68db48254592c7b241f918714c4f1187d8402898

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Eegore on 09/30/24 at 21:09:57


 Simple question:

 Can Trump lose by a fair, no-cheating vote?

 

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by JOG on 09/30/24 at 22:05:34

Not a chance

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by WebsterMark on 10/01/24 at 05:01:13


6D4D4F475A4D280 wrote:
 Simple question:

 Can Trump lose by a fair, no-cheating vote?

 


Sure. I have a bottle of Woodford Reserve that he will lose.

Now, fair? No-cheating? That depends on your definition of fair, of cheating.
Trump’s running against the Democrats, plus the news and entertainment industry. Now you can say you’ve trained yourself to gather data elsewhere but the most people do not. Trump was a hero when he was on SNL, invited to Clinton parties etc, but after he came out as a Republican, he was public enemy number one. See Elon Musk for public enemy number two.

He has to beat three groups.

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Eegore on 10/01/24 at 08:34:20

Now, fair? No-cheating? That depends on your definition of fair, of cheating.

 I mean no cheating.  No votes cast for Trump changed to Harris.  No votes cast for Trump that are not counted.

 Propaganda that gets humans to vote a specific way is called strategy, that is not "cheating" if the human casts a vote for Harris and the vote is counted for Harris.  That is called losing.


 Anyone that thinks they know how all other humans in the country will vote is simply delusional.  What tiny portion of the internet they choose to look at tells them, is not an analogue for the millions and millions of other humans out there.

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Eegore on 10/01/24 at 08:41:57

Not a chance

 I'm not surprised.  

 I think Trump could lose.  This is simply because I don't have the audacity to claim I can tell what all other humans that vote will do.  A tremendous amount, most actually, never attend a rally, say anything online, or otherwise state/show/signal their voting preference in a way we can identify online, through polling or even casual conversation.

 This "X-Candidate" can only win sounds like a middle school kid saying his basketball team wins because they are better but only loses when the other team cheats.

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Serowbot on 10/01/24 at 09:14:04

I personally don't know anybody that has ever attended a political rally.. for either side
Therefore, logic tells me

VOTES AREN'T REAL

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by WebsterMark on 10/01/24 at 10:27:57


4666646C7166030 wrote:
Now, fair? No-cheating? That depends on your definition of fair, of cheating.

 I mean no cheating.  No votes cast for Trump changed to Harris.  No votes cast for Trump that are not counted.

 Propaganda that gets humans to vote a specific way is called strategy, that is not "cheating" if the human casts a vote for Harris and the vote is counted for Harris.  That is called losing.


 Anyone that thinks they know how all other humans in the country will vote is simply delusional.  What tiny portion of the internet they choose to look at tells them, is not an analogue for the millions and millions of other humans out there.


I have no idea what the whole story is but I just saw a brief story, what’s up with Arizona and a couple hundred thousand voter registrations?

It’s not just about changing votes, it changing rules. That’s what happened last time. States used Covid as a cover to change rules to make it easier for people who otherwise would’ve never have voted to vote. Now, you could say that’s playing within the rules and maybe it is. On the other hand, maybe it’s isn’t.

Hillary, and the leftist lunatics on here, cried, and cried for a couple of years that Russian influenced voters by using Facebook and other advertising techniques and that’s why Trump won.

The only thing all of us know for sure is that whenever money and more specifically power is up for grabs, people cheat, lie, steal, kill, do whatever they need to to gain it. The idea that we can say the last election was the most secure in history is absolutely ridiculous. Of course it’s impossible to say that.

We saw what Facebook and Twitter did. We know that if the laptop story was reported as the truth (which everyone knew it at the time) that could have swung enough votes in the other direction that Trump would’ve won. And think about the whole Russiangate story. It was a lie from the very beginning. Everyone knew it was false, but it was pushed repeatedly to the point where a special prosecutor got involved, and it was a daily news story. It was all a lie, and everybody knew it was a lie.  The 51 national intelligence members who signed that letter were lying. They knew it. We know that for a fact.

Now, if you call that cheating or not, it’s up to the individual.



Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by JOG on 10/01/24 at 11:21:17

Wherever he goes, rain or shine, he has YUGE crowds.
He is cheered at football games.
Where she goes, she has to bus people in and/or hire entertainment.
Where TamponTim goes, he gets Booed. He flips off the people.
It's not Arrogance to CONCLUDE, based on Observed Reality
Who the People support. It's common sense.

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Serowbot on 10/01/24 at 11:27:27


0020222A3720450 wrote:
 Simple question:

 Can Trump lose by a fair, no-cheating vote?

 

He already did  2020

Dozens of recounts, dozens and dozens of lawsuits
Zero evidence
Loser

If you can't find a single iota of provable evidence that millions of votes were stolen, in 4 years of investigation
You don't deserve to be President

More than year of investigation by partizan Cyber Ninja morons paid millions of dollars in Az,... and they ultimately found a few more votes for Biden
MORE! 99 more
Final report from partisan Arizona review confirms Biden defeated Trump in Maricopa County last November
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/politics/arizona-election-review-results/index.html
http://https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/bac1715b5352d3024f6ef1611dfbbbcd6cd6f27f/0_211_3505_2103/master/3505.jpg?width=445&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by MnSpring on 10/01/24 at 13:22:02


1107100D15000D16620 wrote:
"... Zero evidence ..."


Then you totally believe that JFK was not boinking MM,

Then you totally believe that Teddy did NOT drive drunk over a bridge.

Then you totally believe that a former President had nothing to do with any persons suicide, when they were about to 'blow the whistle' on his doings.

In 16 the UL Socialists Failed.
In 20 they did not.

(Officially)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Serowbot on 10/01/24 at 14:09:06

Ms you do this a lot... as if what I think of JFK or Teddy has anything to do with anything

There was zero evidence of voter fraud by the Left in 2020
Trump on the other hand did plan a fake elector swap, incite a riot, and ask Pence to discard his duties and not certify the results
This is proven fact
He tried to cheat but failed
As is his way

Now, he wants to do it again
He knows it's the only way he can win
and the only way to avoid jail

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Eegore on 10/01/24 at 14:28:21

It’s not just about changing votes, it changing rules. That’s what happened last time. States used Covid as a cover to change rules to make it easier for people who otherwise would’ve never have voted to vote. Now, you could say that’s playing within the rules and maybe it is. On the other hand, maybe it’s isn’t.


 What I see is people complaining about an increase in voting numbers, but only because their side lost.  

 If Trump would have won would you share the same concerns about increase in voter turnout from "people who otherwise would’ve never have voted"?


 For instance if I know 99% of a nursing home will vote for the human I don't want to win, should I consider it cheating if they allow the elderly to mail-in ballots?  Would it be cheating if the nursing home voted 99% in favor of the human I wanted to win an election?

 The problem I have is I do not see anyone address a universal problem with voting procedures in the US.  They only have issues of cheating where their preferred candidate lost.  Anywhere the candidate won, well that area, using the exact same laws and voting procedures, they didn't cheat.
 

We saw what Facebook and Twitter did.

 When Trump used it to win, where were the concerns?  The Trump campaign literally made up hundreds of thousands of targeted ads in real time, false ones, to increase voting.  It was superior strategy then.  But now when the opposition takes that power away, it's cheating?  I'd call it losing that battle.  Should have done better on that front.

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Serowbot on 10/01/24 at 16:16:08


5E6C6B7A7D6C7B44687B62090 wrote:
I have no idea what the whole story is but I just saw a brief story, what’s up with Arizona and a couple hundred thousand voter registrations?

Very simply, the goal of election officials is not to be sticklers for rules above all else... it's to fairly account for every legitimate vote
That's the intention of the rules, and if some technical issue of those rules has the unintentional effect of cancelling a legitimate voters vote, they will try to correct that.
That's a good rule to live by
Respect for every voter
In Arizona, a 100,000 voters submitted their valid drivers license to register to vote.  They did nothing wrong.
..but,.. it has come to light that licenses issued some 20 years ago did not prove citizenship, so Republicans wanted to cancel their vote.
They went to court to get them removed from the voter register
In the process of doing so they found out that these voters were 60% Republicans and that changes their minds.

Now,... the want rightful voters votes protected
Sure
..but I agree.
These people should have their rights protected
Call them, contact them, get the ID needed to to keep them registered. whatever is needed, but don't just throw away their rights
Republicans seem motivated by voter suppression, election officials are motivated by protecting all voters rights
 

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by WebsterMark on 10/01/24 at 16:19:46

When Trump used it to win, where were the concerns?  The Trump campaign literally made up hundreds of thousands of targeted ads in real time, false ones, to increase voting.  It was superior strategy then.  But now when the opposition takes that power away, it's cheating?  I'd call it losing that battle.  Should have done better on that front.


No, no, no…. Every politician runs hundreds of thousands of targeted ads, false ones, to increase voting.  Facebook and Twitter removed posts by users in order to use their considerable influence to sway an election. That’s not even in the same ballpark.

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Serowbot on 10/01/24 at 16:34:49

Clarify... I have no idea what you're talking about
Facebook/Meta and Twitter/X are not branches of government
They can do what they want as long as it's legal
US fed's will interfere if it''s illegal

Fox News is currently paying the price
as is Giuliani
The list goes on
..but they're all Republican leaning because they're the crooks

Justice shouldn't be politically equal
It should be politically neutral
That don't work out 50/50

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by MnSpring on 10/01/24 at 16:39:49


283E29342C39342F5B0 wrote:
"... as if what I think of JFK or Teddy has anything to do with anything ..."

It has everything to do with the three things mentioned. (and your 'view' of 20)

After all the "OFFICIAL" stand is,
JFK was NOT Boinking MM,
Teddy did NOT drive Drunk over the bridge,
Clinton NEVER caused any harm to anyone, for any reason.
Just the same as the, 'Official' stand is no Voting Fraud in 20





Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by thumperclone on 10/01/24 at 17:13:38


05261B383A21262F480 wrote:
[quote author=283E29342C39342F5B0 link=1727619452/15#15 date=1727816946]"... as if what I think of JFK or Teddy has anything to do with anything ..."

It has everything to do with the three things mentioned. (and your 'view' of 20)

After all the "OFFICIAL" stand is,
JFK was NOT Boinking MM,
Teddy did NOT drive Drunk over the bridge,
Clinton NEVER caused any harm to anyone, for any reason.






official in the air in your cranium

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by Eegore on 10/01/24 at 19:10:04

No, no, no…. Every politician runs hundreds of thousands of targeted ads, false ones, to increase voting.  Facebook and Twitter removed posts by users in order to use their considerable influence to sway an election. That’s not even in the same ballpark.


 It's called strategy.  Had Trump not alienated those private companies that were instrumental in his victory then he wouldn't have had this problem.  His own team warned him of this back in June of 2017.  

 This is no different than using NBC to broadcast winning commercials and then telling NBC to go F-themselves when they don't want to keep running commercials for you that make no sense.  Later NBC says "No commercials for you." and people say the competition "cheated" because NBC, a private company, decided to side with someone else in secret.  

 Trump used social media to win, and lost when he couldn't keep them on his side.  Instead he had this delusion that he could do it better with Truth Social.  A typical Trump flaw, thinking anything he imagines is automatically going to be superior.  

 In either case, would you be concerned about an increase of voters that otherwise would not have if Trump would have won?  

Title: Re: Admit it now
Post by MnSpring on 10/01/24 at 20:04:06


0626242C3126430 wrote:
. "...    a private company, decided to side with someone else ..." 


Yep, the big letter, 'News' Companies, are Private companies.
They can support whoever they want.
They can say/replete/spin/ any 'news' story they want.

Problem comes when most people actually believe them when they say they are 'fair and balanced',  Which they are not.

They, 'IMPLY', that they are neutral sided.







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