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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Liars at hurricane relief. /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1728159472 Message started by Eegore on 10/05/24 at 13:17:52 |
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Title: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/05/24 at 13:17:52 I have 4 associates in the CO National Guard that are in the Helene relief zone and they are lying to me saying the NG is there, thousands of them, handing out tens of thousands of relief items. They even sent photos and videos. Crazy world we live in that I can verify this to be incorrect by looking at posts on social media or websites with insider info on secret government operations. Don't they know that their cellphone photos and videos are probably CGI by FEMA. Much more likely that the NG soldiers, their families and friends are also secretly in on this scheme than anyone on social media lying right? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/05/24 at 13:52:59 It's diabolical! :-? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by JOG on 10/06/24 at 10:05:02 Musk is lying? It's okay if you post some of those videos here,E.. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/06/24 at 11:40:12 Kamala is being wicked cruel to this poor little girl and her puppy made of pixels and the Right is really upset about it She's as fake as all those stories you're reading about the Biden admin bad response to Helene Feel manipulated yet? or just happily soaking up the fake news? THIS GIRL DOESN'T EXIST! She's an AI creation of the Right http://https://wordpress-assets.futurism.com/2024/10/trump-allies-fall-for-ai-slop.jpg |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by ThumperPaul on 10/06/24 at 11:47:16 What's really pathetic is that we send billions to foreign countries every year and our own people in need from a disaster have to file a claim with tons of proof of loss to get a lousy $750 check from FEMA if they are lucky. Let them eat dog! (I guess...) |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by JOG on 10/06/24 at 12:33:39 Yeah, Bot,,everything I think about the situation is based on that picture I haven't seen until now. When are you going to post links to victims who have been rescued and taken care of by FEMA? https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article293425164.html Who Does that? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by JOG on 10/06/24 at 12:39:14 Paul,,you know how it went in Maui.. Or maybe that was just internet lies,too? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by ThumperPaul on 10/06/24 at 14:09:24 The Ice Pick Bandit kinda looks like you, JOG (a few years younger). Is he related? ;D https://www.overdriveonline.com/channel-19/article/15704524/ice-pick-bandit-on-a-rampage-across-tennessee-arkansas Unfortunately a few bad eggs ruin disaster relief for those truly in need. But come on....a measly $750 when you do prove your need! Ridiculous especially when you consider the billions of dollars sent to foreign countries for aid and military support. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/06/24 at 14:16:10 Parroting the party line If Trump were in charge, everything would be back to ship shape by now He'd just snap his fingers All hail Trump Remember how he fixed the Covid pandemic instantly? Remember how nobody died, and mothers weren't scrambling to get formula, and store shelves were full? Sure you do |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/06/24 at 14:20:21 Hurricane Helene: Rumor Response https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response Tennessee mayor on FEMA attacks post-Helene: ‘Quit spreading those rumors’ https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4917387-tennessee-mayor-glenn-jacobs-fema-rumors-hurricane-helene/ Lara Trump Fumes as CNN Host Calls Out Donald’s Hurricane Helene Lies https://www.yahoo.com/news/lara-trumps-cnn-interview-takes-151621062.html |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/06/24 at 15:52:52 Musk is lying? He's repeating lies. There are indeed NG soldiers on the ground. Not one real person so far has stated their relief aid was confiscated. Other people have said they have heard of it. Bots on social media say they have seen it. But not real humans so far. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/24 at 04:15:30 The bigger issue is simply this. When it comes to spending money that the Biden Harris administration wants to spend, finding money is never a problem. Billions to pay off student loans even though the Supreme Court question their legality? No problem, stroke of the pen and it was done. Billions to Ukraine? Any time their president shows up and ask him for money, it appears. Maybe Harris should’ve just come out and said she was going to cancel all the debt it will take to recover from the storm damage. Presto-chango, problem solved. Cancel the debt. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/07/24 at 06:46:55 The $750 immediate cash help keeps getting harped on by MAGAnuts repeating Trump's own words and outrage. Let's be clear... the amount was $500 during Trump's tenure. Deep breath Feel better? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/07/24 at 08:30:49 Billions to pay off student loans even though the Supreme Court question their legality? No problem, stroke of the pen and it was done. This is still false. The Supreme Court had nothing at all, nothing, to do with the Biden/Harris stoke of a pen procedure. The Supreme Court never questioned the legality of that because it was for humans that already PAID their loans for 20+ years. You again are combining the loan approvals from decades ago by humans that PAID their loans, with the current loan forgiveness process that is being questioned for people that have NOT PAID their loans. The only reason people keep saying this is because they want to claim Biden/Harris defied the Supreme Court. They did not. Loan forgiveness can be bad policy without repeating lies about SCOTUS rulings. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/24 at 09:29:40 https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/08/supreme-court-temporarily-bars-latest-biden-student-debt-relief-plan/ |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/07/24 at 09:44:39 Another liar. The production value is astounding though. This guy obviously bought a helicopter and paid a group of CGI experts and paid actors to make it look like he is working with the FAA and FEMA to fly, privately, supplies into NC. Too bad for him we have social media and thegatewaypundit website to set us straight showing NC is getting "no relief" and the government is stopping "al private aid" from getting in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQAPEBKhMS8 |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/07/24 at 09:48:05 More liars. This time an entire pilot's association banded together to lie about their air relief. As you can see they even got Hickory Airfield staff involved on the ruse and invited paid camera crews to pretend they are seeing real helicopters. Good thing guys like Elon Musk are telling us the truth about the government prohibiting any civilian aid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1kXAkENZFE Air National Guard did their own media stunt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK2CxgeAD-E |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/07/24 at 10:02:25 Obviously this Fire Chief was under FEMA authority to stop this helicopter rescue. It was probably because he had insider information about the weather machine being re-activated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si9kPy7IffU |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/07/24 at 10:05:45 But Eegore,.. why would Trump lie about that? Why would Republicans be trying to make this sound so bad? Why are $750 cash payments so bad compared to the $500 Trump gave out? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/07/24 at 10:20:13 Why are $750 cash payments so bad compared to the $500 Trump gave out? Because when Trump did it the same people didn't pretend that was the ONLY aid, they accurately Observed it was the FIRST immediate payment. Why would Republicans be trying to make this sound so bad? To be fair most of the nonsense is from humans of no political preference just making up nonsense online to laugh at people who get mad over things that aren't real. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/07/24 at 10:44:48 634341495443260 wrote:
Fair enough |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by MnSpring on 10/07/24 at 10:49:06 527270786572170 wrote:
Did You have a Student loan to pay for Collage ? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by MnSpring on 10/07/24 at 11:00:49 5B4D5A475F4A475C280 wrote:
When was that ? What did a gallon of milk cost ? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by thumperclone on 10/07/24 at 11:58:28 $750 is a stop gap payment while applications for more relief are processed |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/07/24 at 15:15:18 Did You have a Student loan to pay for Collage ? No. Are you able to understand that the SCOTUS never ruled on the Biden/Harris directive on loans made 25 years ago that were PAID is not the same as the loans today that were NOT PAID? Some people refuse to Observe this. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/07/24 at 15:17:12 When was that ? What did a gallon of milk cost ? Lets say a gallon of milk costs $749.99 today. Does that change anything about people claiming humans impacted by the hurricane today only get $750 total and no other aid? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by MnSpring on 10/07/24 at 19:48:28 5F7F7D75687F1A0 wrote:
About the SAME as Bot saying Trump ONLY passed out 500.00 ! When it WAS NOT all they got ! |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/07/24 at 20:49:34 About the SAME as Bot saying Trump ONLY passed out 500.00 ! When it WAS NOT all they got ! I don't see anything from Serowbot saying it WAS all they got! Are you able to understand that the SCOTUS never ruled on the Biden/Harris directive on loans made 25 years ago that were PAID is not the same as the loans today that were NOT PAID? Some people refuse to Observe this. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by MnSpring on 10/08/24 at 13:38:07 4D6D6F677A6D080 wrote:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/02/21/fact-sheet-president-biden-cancels-student-debt-for-more-than-150000-student-loan-borrowers-ahead-of-schedule/ (The Link, from the, www.whitehouse.gov, page) …President Biden announced the approval of $1.2 billion in student debt cancellation for almost 153,000 borrowers currently enrolled in the Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) repayment plan. The Biden-Harris Administration has now approved nearly $138 billion in student debt cancellation for almost 3.9 million borrowers through more than two dozen executive actions…. … Already, the President has cancelled more student debt than any President in history – delivering lifechanging relief to students and families – and has created the most affordable student loan repayment plan ever: the SAVE plan. … … Thanks to the Biden-Harris Administration’s SAVE plan, starting today, the Administration will be cancelling debt for borrowers who are enrolled in the SAVE plan, have been in repayment for at least 10 years and took out $12,000 or less in loans for college. … … The U.S. Department of Education (Department) identified nearly 153,000 borrowers who are enrolled in SAVE plan who will have their debt cancelled starting this week, and those borrowers will receive an email today from President Biden informing them of their imminent relief. … … President Biden’s Administration has approved student debt relief for nearly 3.9 million Americans through various actions … … Since taking office, the Biden-Harris Administration has approved debt cancellation for nearly 3.9 million Americans, totaling almost $138 billion in debt relief through various actions. ... Guess things have changed. Use to be, one borrowed money, they repaid it. Today, one can borrow money, and someone else can repay it ! … Fixing the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program so that borrowers who go into public service get the debt relief they’re entitled to under the law. Before President Biden took office, only 7,000 people ever received debt relief through PSLF. After fixing the program, the Biden-Harris Administration has now cancelled student loan debt for nearly 800,000 public service workers. … (Wonder if, that has anything to do with, ‘who is kissing who’s’, ARISE ?) |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/08/24 at 14:44:12 Guess things have changed. Use to be, one borrowed money, they repaid it. Today, one can borrow money, and someone else can repay it ! Mostly true. Government loan forgiveness goes back thousands of years. It's in the Bible for instance. None of this changes the fact that the SCOTUS never ruled/questioned or spoke on the "stroke of a pen" directive that honored the loans made decades ago that were PAID. Webstermark is taking an Executive Order on one issue and claiming it applies to a totally different one that the SCOTUS reviewed. Complaining about today's loan forgiveness won't change the fact that it is not the same loans. Are you able to understand that the SCOTUS never ruled on the Biden/Harris directive on loans made 25 years ago that were PAID is not the same as the loans today that were NOT PAID? Some people refuse to Observe this. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/08/24 at 15:13:43 Just think of all the raging you can do once Milton hits A dream come true for you Best disaster ever! Withhold Will you watch it before you deny it? Or just deny it? :-? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL0g-9MfGuI[/media] |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/24 at 03:53:08 “The Supreme Court on Wednesday temporarily barred the Biden administration from implementing one of its latest efforts to provide debt relief to Americans with student loans. In a brief unsigned order, the justices declined to allow the Department of Education to put into effect a July 2023 rule, known as the SAVE Plan, intended to provide debt relief for lower-income borrowers while challenges to the rule continue in the lower courts.” My point is the supreme court justices obviously have red flags going up on this issue as all of us should have. I understand the Supreme Court is ruling on one specific issue, but the idea about student debt relief is more of a big picture issue and they clearly have constitutional concerns. My biggest objection is the whole idea behind using the phrase “canceling student debt” is ridiculous, it’s a lie, it’s purposely distorting the truth for political gain. The bigger political question is does executive office have the authority to take government funds and pay off financial institutions for loans taken out by students for education? I just heard Biden‘s press secretary say Congress control the funds, which is why they need Congress to come back to fix the immigration issue, FEMA funding, etc. However, if the executive office can move tax money from one account and pay off loans totaling in the billions of dollars, why can’t they take funds and hire 1500 border agents? Why can’t they take funds and give it to FEMA? Why do we say Congress controls the purse strings? |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/09/24 at 08:43:57 Yeah, that's who you want in charge The dumbest man ever Trump Criticises Harris For Not Using Sharpie To Change Hurricane’s Path http://https://www.news4jax.com/resizer/_0NnHMN-OsR6AOfXmxUiYyRtmhQ=/800x533/smart/filters:format(jpeg):strip_exif(true):strip_icc(true):no_upscale(true):quality(65)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gmg/3GRI5IPOUBH6TON4QZSYICHHWY.jpg |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/24 at 09:11:44 Between the two, yes I’d rather have Trump. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Eegore on 10/09/24 at 10:25:17 My point is the supreme court justices obviously have red flags going up on this issue as all of us should have. I understand the Supreme Court is ruling on one specific issue, but the idea about student debt relief is more of a big picture issue and they clearly have constitutional concerns. I agree with this however implying the Biden /Harris did it anyway after the SCOTUS said no is false, especially when using the actions in a totally different loan program made decades ago. I think it is appropriate to work off a portion of a loan. Humans that paid for 20 -25 years, with a written agreement, are not in the same category of humans that have paid one year with no agreement. The steps being taken in the SAVE act should be questioned. They should not be compared to the older loans from decades ago. Biden had every right to tell the Dept of Education to honor those loan agreements. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/09/24 at 10:29:33 Very helpful Donny :P Fact check: Six days of Trump lies about the Hurricane Helene response - Monday: Trump falsely claims Biden hasn’t answered calls from Georgia’s governor - Monday: Trump cites baseless ‘reports’ about anti-Republican bias in the North Carolina response - Thursday: Trump falsely claims the Biden-Harris response had received ‘universally’ negative reviews - Thursday: Trump falsely claims Harris spent ‘all her FEMA money’ on housing illegal migrants - Friday: Trump falsely claims $1 billion was ‘stolen’ from FEMA for migrants and has gone ‘missing’ - Saturday: Trump falsely claims the federal government is only giving $750 to people who lost their homes - Saturday: Trump falsely claims there are ‘no helicopters, no rescue’ in North Carolina |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by WebsterMark on 10/10/24 at 04:17:29 Vice President Kamala Harris told us Joe Biden was a sharp as a tack, one of the most competent man she’s ever worked with. She repeated that lie up until the moment she joined with others to stabbed him in the back because not even a corrupt media could hide the obvious any longer. He had lost a massive amount of his cognitive function due to age which everyone could see despite her standing there and telling us the opposite. The most powerful man in the free world was, at best, operating at half capacity meaning an unnamed group behind the scenes was actually the functioning executive of the United States and your crying about “claims”. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by MnSpring on 10/10/24 at 06:05:46 Where is Henry Ross Perot ? (Or like) |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by Serowbot on 10/10/24 at 07:02:55 Did you watch Biden's comments on Milton today Sharp as a tack and ripped Trump a new one for dangerous lies |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by WebsterMark on 10/10/24 at 07:12:40 Yea….sharp as a tack. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by WebsterMark on 10/10/24 at 09:53:28 Speaking of liars and hurricanes, I just saw Biden answer a couple of questions at two different press conferences, where he was praising the governor of Florida. I wonder as his days are coming to an end in office, is the agreement he made to be voluntarily stabbed in the back is starting to irritate him more and more and he’s letting his true feelings about Harris come out. Remember, she called him a racist before she had to drop out the 2020 race because she was so unlikable. Something to watch in the next week or so. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by thumperclone on 10/10/24 at 09:54:01 sharp as a tack and NO LIES STUPID LIES are all the orange FELON and JD have |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by MnSpring on 10/10/24 at 11:16:30 477572636475625D71627B100 wrote:
I believe that is also true. However, The Puppet Masters will NEVER, let that happen. |
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Title: Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Post by thumperclone on 10/10/24 at 13:10:24 you spread more STUPID lies name the puppet masters your and the other lemmings master is the orange FELON |
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