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Message started by Serowbot on 10/14/24 at 15:59:37

Title: I voted
Post by Serowbot on 10/14/24 at 15:59:37

It's a secret     :D

Title: Re: I voted
Post by thumperclone on 10/14/24 at 16:39:08

got our ballots Saturday still studying the propositions and amendments

Title: Re: I voted
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/24 at 04:28:19

Why do you vote early?  And by mail?

Title: Re: I voted
Post by thumperclone on 10/15/24 at 04:44:25

receive by mail, use drop box

Title: Re: I voted
Post by Serowbot on 10/15/24 at 06:42:12


586A6D7C7B6A7D426E7D640F0 wrote:
Why do you vote early?  And by mail?

In case of asteroids

Title: Re: I voted
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/24 at 09:43:44

How does the state of Colorado know it was actually you who made the selections and put it in the Dropbox?

Title: Re: I voted
Post by thumperclone on 10/15/24 at 09:46:20


152720313627300F233029420 wrote:
How does the state of Colorado know it was actually you who made the selections and put it in the Dropbox?

 fn magic

Title: Re: I voted
Post by Serowbot on 10/15/24 at 10:54:26

Mail in voting by definition has a paper trail
Some same day voting doesn't

Checks and recounts have shown mail-in to be super reliable
In fact... all voting has been shown to be super reliable
Trump demanded many recounts and dozens of frivolous lawsuits and turned up bupkis
Cyber Ninjas ultra partizan AZ recount found over 100 more votes for Biden
That must have hurt  ;D

AZ has a tracking system that you can call or use a QR code to know where and when your own vote is and when it is counted
Mail-in has been happening here since the 90's
They got this down, but you can count on Trump to create chaos when he loses
Mark Kelly is winning, Kari Lake is losing yuge against Gallego, we have a Dem Governor and Trump will still expect to win

Kamala will win the swing states and maybe even Florida
Texas will be close... Cruz may lose as well

... and Trump is inexplicably campaigning in California and New York
Go figure
He's not even trying to win... he's planning to steal

Title: Re: I voted
Post by MnSpring on 10/15/24 at 11:07:56


7167706D75606D76020 wrote:
"It's a secret"


Must have been Chase Oliver.


Title: Re: I voted
Post by Eegore on 10/15/24 at 11:16:02

How does the state of Colorado know it was actually you who made the selections and put it in the Dropbox?

 They don't.  It is plausible that any Colorado voter could intercept another's, cast votes, replicate their signature and return the ballot.  This is an opinion for those incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

 The problem is the volume needed and the spread.  For instance if I wanted to turn in 100 votes myself I would need to intercept 100 pieces of mail, from 100 humans that I already know will not vote, or care if they get a ballot and request another.  I would then need to match their signatures held in digital files.  This is an opinion.

 Surprisingly the signature thing is hard to beat, we among 3 other companies tried multiple times around 2006 - 2007.

 I would then need to turn those in in a sporadic non-pattern method near locations they would normally do this.  I would need to avoid the USPS as the sudden influx would trigger an alert.  

 My opinion is that it's doable for sure.  The biggest problem is securing ballots from people that do not care in my opinion.  It's not all that easy would be my opinion on this matter.

 This post has been an opinion.

Title: Re: I voted
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/24 at 12:51:12


4C504D55485D4A5B5457565D380 wrote:
[quote author=152720313627300F233029420 link=1728946778/0#5 date=1729010624]How does the state of Colorado know it was actually you who made the selections and put it in the Dropbox?

 fn magic[/quote]

Perhaps the only thing you’ve ever typed that made sense.

Title: Re: I voted
Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/24 at 13:03:52


4D6D6F677A6D080 wrote:
How does the state of Colorado know it was actually you who made the selections and put it in the Dropbox?

 They don't.  It is plausible that any Colorado voter could intercept another's, cast votes, replicate their signature and return the ballot.  This is an opinion for those incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

 The problem is the volume needed and the spread.  For instance if I wanted to turn in 100 votes myself I would need to intercept 100 pieces of mail, from 100 humans that I already know will not vote, or care if they get a ballot and request another.  I would then need to match their signatures held in digital files.  This is an opinion.

 Surprisingly the signature thing is hard to beat, we among 3 other companies tried multiple times around 2006 - 2007.

 I would then need to turn those in in a sporadic non-pattern method near locations they would normally do this.  I would need to avoid the USPS as the sudden influx would trigger an alert.  

 My opinion is that it's doable for sure.  The biggest problem is securing ballots from people that do not care in my opinion.  It's not all that easy would be my opinion on this matter.

 This post has been an opinion.


I agree. I’m not saying it’s easy to cheat. I’m just saying it’s doable.

In my experience, dealing with money and financial accounting, it’s amazing how clever people are when they want to steal money. And power is a much greater draw than money. I’ve been involved with four different people stealing company money and it’s amazing how people will figure out ways to scam you that never even thought of. As Donald Rumsfeld famously said there are things you know you don’t know, but there are things you don’t know that you don’t know.

I never believed the ridiculous 3000 mules thing for example. They showed a video of one person dropping off ballots and then tracked their phone back to the same spot over and over. However, they never showed another video of that same person dropping off ballots in the same box. That would’ve been a slam dunk. If you tracked my cell phone, you would find I go past the same places regularly like most people do.

I know what I know, and I know that the 2020 election was not legitimate. Covid voting rules opened up all kinds of avenues, and I know they were abused. There’s no way to ever prove that I made a difference. Honestly, I think the government’s partnership with Facebook and Twitter, with regards to Biden’s crimes as detailed on hunters laptop was far more effective.

But I know some shady stuff went down with ballots. And before the leftist on here cry like the fair and balanced moderators during the debates, that 60 cases were brought up and 60 showed nothing was wrong, that was false for the beginning. Many of those cases were dismissed on standing meaning the evidence was not reviewed. But again, even if it was reviewed, I’m not sure they would’ve had enough direct evidence to swing enough votes. Maybe they would’ve, maybe they wouldn’t have, will never know. All we know for sure is the 2020 election was definitely not the most secure in history.

Title: Re: I voted
Post by thumperclone on 10/15/24 at 13:12:30

our county trRumist clerk is now spending 9 years in jail for trying to screw with elections

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