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Message started by MnSpring on 10/23/24 at 17:11:16

Title: Even CNN
Post by MnSpring on 10/23/24 at 17:11:16

From Chicken Noodle News

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/14/politics/fact-check-harris-campaign-social-media/index.html

"Harris campaign social media account has repeatedly deceived with misleading edits and captions "


"...social media account run by Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign has been repeatedly deceptive."

The @KamalaHQ account, which has more than 1.3 million followers on the X social media platform formerly known as Twitter, has made a habit of misleadingly clipping and inaccurately captioning video clips to attack former President Donald Trump.

The Harris campaign deploys @KamalaHQ as a kind of irreverent attack dog, using jocular posts to draw attention to controversial, incorrect, or dubious comments by Trump and his allies. But the account, which the Harris campaign calls its “official rapid response page,” [b]has itself made inaccurate comments on multiple occasions.


examples of false or misleading video posts from the account since mid-August

...Deceptively clipping and misleadingly describing a Trump comment about immigration...

...Misleadingly describing a Trump comment about his supporters...

...Deceptively clipping and misleadingly describing a Trump comment about immigration...

...Deceptively clipping and misleadingly describing a Trump comment about his 2017 Charlottesville remark...

...Deceptively clipping and inaccurately quoting a JD Vance quote about veterans’ health care...

...Deceptively clipping and falsely describing a Trump quote about penalties for damaging monuments...

...Deceptively clipping and misleadingly describing a Trump comment about taxes...

...Cutting out critical words from a Vance comment about unions...

...Falsely describing a comment from a Trump ally...

     (Just the tip of the iceberg)


Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by Eegore on 10/23/24 at 17:16:35


 So pretty much all politician social media ever.

 I still don't get why anyone thinks social media, especially the campaign driven ones, would be anything but deceptive.

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by MnSpring on 10/23/24 at 18:21:54

Oh Yea,
 Forgot !

"...The Harris campaign declined to comment on this..."

For all of you that believe the, 'Harris campaign' has nothing to do with the, "@KamalaHQ account".

Contact me, for that Ocean Front property in NM.


Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by JOG on 10/23/24 at 22:54:14


1131333B2631540 wrote:
 So pretty much all politician social media ever.

 I still don't get why anyone thinks social media, especially the campaign driven ones, would be anything but deceptive.

Because they sell themselves as as essentially a forum where individuals are given a free platform to say what they want.

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by Eegore on 10/24/24 at 07:28:54


Because they sell themselves as as essentially a forum where individuals are given a free platform to say what they want.

 Again I don't see where that comes from.  I've never seen X or FB/Meta, Truth, any of them say they are an unmoderated property that you can say anything you want.  I think people just want to claim it as such as leverage to complain when they do something they do not like.  

 They very specifically say they moderate and remove inappropriate content.  Even Musk with his free speech rhetoric still moderates or removes content.  For instance you talk bad about Tesla, he removes your account.  Where's the outrage on that one?

 Telegram is a lone standout, and is now under lawsuit due to the unregulated and rampant crime on it.  Tons of child abuse, tons of drug deals, human trafficking etc.  I can totally see where Telegram would be construed as a platform where there are no rules.

 This is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by MnSpring on 10/24/24 at 20:45:10


2404060E1304610 wrote:
"  I've never seen X or FB/Meta, Truth, any of them say they are an unmoderated property that you can say anything you want. ..."


"... Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology...."

Was it not, the FACT that a 'site' said they DO TAKE OFF, the """wrong""" political opinion ?



Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by Eegore on 10/25/24 at 06:34:03

Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology

 And they still routinely remove content an block users.  Again they can say anything they want.  Truth Social has no obligation to protect your 1st Amendment rights, and as such you have no right to use their property.  They can take any post off their service they want.


Was it not, the FACT that a 'site' said they DO TAKE OFF, the """wrong""" political opinion ?

 Yes.  This is why I can't understand why anyone thinks Social Media is a Public Forum, or Open Forum.  It isn't, it's private companies letting you use their private property.  Claiming FB/Meta removing Trump as "abuse" is ridiculous.  He has no right to their service.

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by JOG on 10/25/24 at 06:44:21

I'll waste another minute.
Having No Obligation to Protect is one thing.
That ONLY statements that contradict the government or lefty narratives be removed is alarming. And EVERYONE should be against it.
It's WHY the lefties Believe They are the majority. Because everyone who disagreed was censored. You want to SEE the difference?
Look at rally attendance.
WE are the overwhelming majority. The election was stolen.

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by Eegore on 10/25/24 at 07:00:32

That ONLY statements that contradict the government or lefty narratives be removed is alarming. And EVERYONE should be against it.

 Sure.  But to say FB/Meta broke the same LAW that CBS did is fundamentally incorrect.  FB has no such obligations, and considering they literally tell you all the time they moderate and remove content - one should never think it's an open forum.  It's not, because FB/Meta have no obligation to protect your 1st Amendment rights on their private property.   This is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.



Look at rally attendance.


 Rally attendance is less than .04% of the population that already voted.  Over 20 Million humans voted already.  Trump would need over a million people at every event he has had in 2024 to make up just 33% of the voting population.  

 How are rallies supposed to represent 51% of what voted now, let alone the hundred million more to be counted?

 Oh wait, whatever one human Observes is an analogue for all things they never will Observe.  So if I only Observe rallies and ignore a hundred million other voters then rallies represent the "majority" by Observation.  So Observed Reality is based off rally attendance and not off the actual number of humans voting.


Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by JOG on 10/25/24 at 07:56:05

Everywhere he goes
YUGE crowds
NOWHERE she goes
YUGE crowds
The best she can manage is a Temporary crowd.
When the Free Concert is over
POOF
So is the crowd.

%of voter base is immaterial.
You know that. You're not being honest. Gaslighting,,

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by Eegore on 10/25/24 at 08:17:40

%of voter base is immaterial.
You know that. You're not being honest. Gaslighting,,


 You cant be serious.  Elections are decided exclusively on percentage turnout.  Then again you think death rates before Covid vaccines aren't material in calculating a percentage increase of how many more humans died after the vaccine. 


 20 Million people have voted.  How are you assessing that Trump rally volume is a direct analogue for voter decision?  

 This is like saying one car dealer sells nothing but Teslas and the dealership next door doesn't sell hardly any Dodge pickups, so Teslas are what over Fifty Million other humans will buy.  The sample size is too small, even a hundred car dealerships can't indicate accurately what a hundred million humans will actually purchase.

 This is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by JOG on 10/25/24 at 23:21:24

I'll waste another minute.

That minnit is over.

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by Eegore on 10/25/24 at 23:38:58


 20 Million people have voted.  How are you assessing that Trump rally volume is a direct analogue for voter decision?  

 The sample size is incredibly small.  My opinion, based on math, is over a hundred million humans won't attend rallies but still vote.  Do we just ignore those Millions of voters?

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/federalelections2020.pdf

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by thumperclone on 10/26/24 at 02:26:00

crowd size doesn't mean sheet
votes count..

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by JOG on 10/26/24 at 06:42:13

There ya have it folks.
People can't grasp the obvious.

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/24 at 06:46:50

Why is the,
Talking about About 'fake ballots' for Trump being tore up,
NATIONAL news.
With all sorts of people up in arms about it.
And being investigated by 2 & 3 letter agencies.

Yet the "KamalaHQ account", is hidden under a rock.

And BOTH, are on social media.


Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by thumperclone on 10/26/24 at 10:37:25


0E3B28302B2C283B2D490 wrote:
There ya have it folks.
People can't grasp the obvious.


obviously
what you think is obvious has no bearing on the vote count


Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by Eegore on 10/26/24 at 12:06:03


Yet the "KamalaHQ account", is hidden under a rock.

And BOTH, are on social media.


 Probably because they are privately owned businesses that can decide what goes on their private property.  This is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by MnSpring on 10/26/24 at 12:27:08


2505070F1205600 wrote:
"... BOTH, are on social media. ..."


Perhaps the point was missed.

One,
(putting Trump in a compromising situation)
is front and center, and National News.

One,
(putting Harris in a compromising situation)
is HIDDEN


Title: Re: Even CNN
Post by Eegore on 10/26/24 at 12:33:20


Perhaps the point was missed.

One,
(putting Trump in a compromising situation)
is front and center, and National News.

One,
(putting Harris in a compromising situation)
is HIDDEN



 They have no requirement to report "news" or events equally.  They are privately owned businesses.  They will report most likely, and this is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is, based off profit potential.

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