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Message started by WebsterMark on 10/28/24 at 05:33:22

Title: What happens….
Post by WebsterMark on 10/28/24 at 05:33:22

….on Wednesday Nov 6 when Trump is President-Elect?

1) The left will begin blaming election procedures. Yes, it is of course hypocritical, but leftist have no hypocritical gene in their DNA as we’ve seen countless times, so they won’t recognize it as such.

2) Plans will be for in place to try to remove Trump somehow. I don’t know what that would be, but even if they did, that would mean we would have President Vance and I’m fine with that too.

3) Violence. That’s a given, an absolute certainty.

4) An actual, real insurrection, not a media created one. That’s a possibility.

5) Acceptances and self reflection on how they got here. The least likely outcome. This would be another recent election cycle where they inserted their favorite candidate and lost. Remember, Hillary was inserted over Bernie Sanders who was not allowed to campaign for the nomination against her. This time, Biden was stabbed in the back and thrown overboard. Harris, an unpopular VP ( and that’s being polite)  had to withdraw from her only presidential campaign because, she was gaining zero traction, was their preferred candidate.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by zevenenergie on 10/28/24 at 06:14:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV2wCXKgG1E

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Serowbot on 10/28/24 at 08:00:47


5A4556454E454E4552474945200 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV2wCXKgG1E

That was funny ;D

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by WebsterMark on 10/29/24 at 05:10:57

This is long and I doubt anyone will read it but it pretty much mirrors my 1, 2, and 3 predictions.

https://tomklingenstein.com/is-the-left-preparing-for-war-if-trump-wins/

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Serowbot on 10/29/24 at 08:23:49

Yup, that's long...     but what's up with Kerry's finger?  :-?

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by zevenenergie on 10/29/24 at 09:31:39

The text argues that the “left” political movement in the US is described as revolutionary and aimed at destroying the current order in order to establish a new regime and way of life. It is claimed that left-wing media and political figures portray Donald Trump as a dictator in order to legitimize a violent reaction and destabilization in the event of his re-election.

According to this analysis, Democratic party members and supporters use propaganda to spread fear and prepare for possible riots and political unrest after the election. This could even lead to a split within the US military, as some may refuse to follow Trump’s orders.

The author suggests that this rhetoric is not so much intended to influence the election outcome, but rather to steer public opinion and military loyalty in the event of a Trump victory.


Perceptual filtering, also called selective perception. This means that people often tend to ignore or filter out information that does not match their beliefs, expectations, or desires. When someone really does not want to see something, they may unconsciously not notice that information or interpret it differently, so that it does not feel threatening or uncomfortable.



In other words, if you don't want to see it, you can't see it.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 10/29/24 at 10:35:56


Perceptual filtering, also called selective perception. This means that people often tend to ignore or filter out information that does not match their beliefs, expectations, or desires. When someone really does not want to see something, they may unconsciously not notice that information or interpret it differently, so that it does not feel threatening or uncomfortable.


In other words, if you don't want to see it, you can't see it.




 Sounds like this thing I heard about once called Observed Reality.  Don't Observe it, then it's not happening.  Observe only one thing, then it's everywhere.

 This is my opinion, for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by MnSpring on 10/29/24 at 11:31:59


78585A524F583D0 wrote:
"   Sounds like this thing I heard about once called Observed Reality. " 


Seems like if a River is Flooding,
and a person sees it.
It REALLY is NOT flooding.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by JOG on 10/29/24 at 11:34:45


7757555D4057320 wrote:
Perceptual filtering, also called selective perception. This means that people often tend to ignore or filter out information that does not match their beliefs, expectations, or desires. When someone really does not want to see something, they may unconsciously not notice that information or interpret it differently, so that it does not feel threatening or uncomfortable.


In other words, if you don't want to see it, you can't see it.




 Sounds like this thing I heard about once called Observed Reality.  Don't Observe it, then it's not happening.  Observe only one thing, then it's everywhere.

 This is my opinion, for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.


Don't Observe it, then it's not happening.  

Never said that.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 10/29/24 at 14:34:53


Seems like if a River is Flooding,
and a person sees it.
It REALLY is NOT flooding.


 In your opinion.  My opinion is if a human Observes it by acknowledging it.

 I see a river flooding on TV, I refuse to Observe it, so now I can say that climate change does not cause flooding because flooding is not part of my Observed Reality.  Or even easier, refuse to look at any reports on flooding.

 This is also, in my opinion, "selective perception"
by using Observed Reality as a mechanism.    

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 10/29/24 at 14:37:54

Don't Observe it, then it's not happening.  

Never said that.


 No you just do it.  The only way you can keep repeating that insurance companies "SAID" that vaccinated humans died at a higher percentage is to refuse to Observe the document You referenced as "proof".  

 If you Observed the content of your very own resource, you would also Observe they never "SAID" anything like what you claim.  Instead you would Observe that you were lied to by the headline.  


 You Observe there aren't tons of dead homeless but do not Observe the lack of dead kids.  You claim you Observed two kids die "on live TV" (not sure what kid sports you watch "live")  but will not Observe your own reference had 7 kids dying before 2019.  That's selective perception using Observed reality as the mechanism to maintain it.

 Observe humans at a Trump rally, but do not Observe humans at a Harris rally, and definitely do not Observe the overall number of voting humans that never even attend a rally.  That's selective perception using Observed reality as the mechanism to maintain it.


 This is my opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by thumperclone on 10/29/24 at 15:54:07



Don't Observe it, then it's not happening.  

Never said that.
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 that may be so
you sure do practice it tho
prime example the NAZI rally at MSG



Title: Re: What happens….
Post by zevenenergie on 10/29/24 at 16:27:26

When you look at something and you get thoughts, what are you looking at?
Are you looking at your thoughts about what you see?

Those thoughts are the projection. Nothing more than a commentary on what is there.
Thoughts have nothing to do with reality.
It's that simple...

So, everyone has an opinion and it's always an obstacle.

I'll repeat it Because it's a completely different way of looking at it.

Thoughts and opinions that arise when you see something are actually a projection of reality and not reality itself. I argue that thoughts are a kind of "commentary", an interpretation or filling in of what is really there, and that these thoughts have no direct link to reality. Simply put: thoughts distort what we perceive.

Opinions or interpretations are an obstacle because they distract us from what is really there. Opinions prevent us from perceiving things purely and without judgment. Our thoughts are mainly a filter between ourselves and reality.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 10/29/24 at 19:45:23


Thoughts and opinions that arise when you see something are actually a projection of reality and not reality itself. I argue that thoughts are a kind of "commentary", an interpretation or filling in of what is really there, and that these thoughts have no direct link to reality. Simply put: thoughts distort what we perceive.

 If you really want to get into it we are technically not capable of accurately interpreting reality as we have limitations in our biology.  So even without thoughts or opinions our brains exist only in a projection of reality.  Thoughts help place that distorted existence into a semblance of order so to speak.  Otherwise we would get pretty much nowhere.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by MnSpring on 10/29/24 at 19:58:46


123230382532570 wrote:
"... we are technically not capable of accurately interpreting reality as we have limitations in our biology. ..."


Is that your opinion ?
  Or is it a Fact ?

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 10/29/24 at 20:28:04


Is that your opinion ?
 Or is it a Fact ?


 It's my opinion, for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by WebsterMark on 10/30/24 at 05:40:50

This opinion $hits getting old. 99% of what we waste our time on at this Tall Table is opinion, much of which is presented as fact when it’s obvious that it’s someone’s opinion.

The statement above is a fact.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 10/30/24 at 05:43:43

This opinion $hits getting old. 99% of what we waste our time on at this Tall Table is opinion, much of which is presented as fact when it’s obvious that it’s someone’s opinion.

The statement above is a fact.


 I agree.  My agreement is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 11/06/24 at 05:21:12


 The absolute certainty of violence.  I'm not seeing any in CO, NY, FL where my properties are.  This is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

 Anyone else?

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by JOG on 11/06/24 at 05:32:34


7050525A4750350 wrote:
 The absolute certainty of violence.  I'm not seeing any in CO, NY, FL where my properties are.


The Fact that You don't see any reports of violence is not your opinion.


 This is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

 Anyone else?


Title: Re: What happens….
Post by WebsterMark on 11/06/24 at 06:21:14

In retrospect,  I should have thought about the fact that you have to have passion for someone if you’re gonna fight for them. Kamala Harris elicited no passion. I don’t expect this to be Civil War day or antifa day or anything like that.

What will happen today is denial. Instead of blaming who they should blame they’ll blame everyone else. It’s kind of comical to watch already.

But hey, Republicans have the Senate, which means Trump can appoint anyone he wants as long as there’s no defections, which given the popular vote total, I think a republican senator would be foolish to object, unless it was someone ridiculous. And I don’t think Trump will be ridiculous this term.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by JOG on 11/06/24 at 07:32:30

Kamala Harris elicited no passion.

And I knew she had few passionate supporters,
And failed to conclude This.
Excellent point

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by buster6315 on 11/06/24 at 07:49:45

Kamala picked the wrong running mate.  Wonder what Joe is thinking about the result?

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by MnSpring on 11/06/24 at 08:06:45


735351594453360 wrote:
"... The absolute certainty of violence.  I'm not seeing any in CO, NY, FL where my properties are.  ..."


So you have not observed any,
therefore none exist.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by JOG on 11/06/24 at 08:06:49

Who should she have picked?

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Serowbot on 11/06/24 at 08:09:39


7441524A5156524157330 wrote:
Who should she have picked?

Apparently Trump :-?

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by MnSpring on 11/06/24 at 08:16:35


4D5A5C5B4A5D191C1E1A2F0 wrote:
"Kamala picked the wrong running mate. ..."


LOL a yep !.
Timmy Tampon, the Power Hungry, Scardy-Cat, Bully.

Wonder if the Limousine Liberals in Duluth, The meat plants by Rochester, (who hire illegals), The Gimmy, Gimmy, Gimmy, Welfare group, and the Entitled, (never worked a day in their life).  Will vote for him again ?????







Title: Re: What happens….
Post by JOG on 11/06/24 at 08:17:44

While that would have been good for her campaign, I'm thinking he would likely have declined that honor.

Title: Re: What happens…. RIOTS !
Post by MnSpring on 11/06/24 at 08:38:58

RIOTS, by the Crying in the Street, and the Stealers, and Destroyers !

  (Just Because, they are TOLD TO DO IT)

https://abcnews.go.com/US/capitol-police-warn-post-election-violence-risk-jan/story?id=115538717


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dc-warns-potential-violence-election-uncertainty-ahead-jan/story?id=115031764

https://www.washingtoninformer.com/washington-alert-security-measures-inauguration/

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/trump-v-biden-2024-election-threat-violence.html

https://www.nbcwashington.com/decision-2024/dc-bracing-for-possible-riots-and-civil-unrest-around-election/3753468/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/decision-2024/dc-bracing-for-possible-riots-and-civil-unrest-around-election/3753468/

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-election-extremism-88457e7bf02a908fa2716047fc370cc6

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-election-extremism-88457e7bf02a908fa2716047fc370cc6

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/02/us/washington-oregon-nevada-national-guard-election/index.html

And On and On, and On ...




Title: Re: What happens….
Post by WebsterMark on 11/06/24 at 08:58:59


3B2C2A2D3C2B6F6A686C590 wrote:
Kamala picked the wrong running mate.  Wonder what Joe is thinking about the result?


Yes, she did but whomever she picked wasn’t going to make enough of a difference to stop that tidal wave last night.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 11/06/24 at 09:44:57


 I don't see any riots, are there reports of actual RIOTS! or just threats/analysis reports?  

 This post is an opinion-based question for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by JOG on 11/06/24 at 10:13:08


4F6F6D65786F0A0 wrote:

 I don't see any riots, are there reports of actual RIOTS! or just threats/analysis reports?  

 This post is an opinion-based question for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.



How is that Possibly an Opinion? It's a statement of Fact,, you don't See reports of violence..
Followed by a question..

You didn't express an opinion at all.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 11/06/24 at 10:38:01

 I assume it is calculating it off a flawed logic since the opinion thing makes no sense here to begin with.  I have a question and that question is based off the opinion that my eyes have not seen a specific thing.  

 I can't prove that my eyes are not seeing RIOTS!, another flawed logic consistent on this forums, so it can only be opinion and not fact.  

 Basically no post I can make can be fact since the challenges are typically to prove a negative.  I don't see RIOTS! anywhere, but I can not prove I do not, thus making the statement non-factual.  Since the only two possible outcomes presented are Fact or Opinion, any non-factual post must be Opinion.

 This post is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by zevenenergie on 11/06/24 at 10:46:39


6F4F4D45584F2A0 wrote:
 I assume it is calculating it off a flawed logic since the opinion thing makes no sense here to begin with.  I have a question and that question is based off the opinion that my eyes have not seen a specific thing.  

 I can't prove that my eyes are not seeing RIOTS!, another flawed logic consistent on this forums, so it can only be opinion and not fact.  

 Basically no post I can make can be fact since the challenges are typically to prove a negative.  I don't see RIOTS! anywhere, but I can not prove I do not, thus making the statement non-factual.  Since the only two possible outcomes presented are Fact or Opinion, any non-factual post must be Opinion.

 This post is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.



Its good the be on the save site...
By stating your opinion as such, you create an environment where opinions can be safely shared without it coming across as an attack or threat. People feel freer to explore and discuss ideas without feeling like they have to defend or attack the one true truth. This makes conversations more enjoyable, productive, and less stressful for everyone involved.
But I think it's a bit too much to say it every time.

You can also choose your words so that you don't sound absolute.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by MnSpring on 11/06/24 at 11:24:59


223D2E3D363D363D2A3F313D580 wrote:
"... You can also choose your words so that you don't sound absolute. "


    bing bing bing bing bing bing !!!!!

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by MnSpring on 11/06/24 at 11:36:59

A-Yep, the FDS, DFI, WOKE, Socialists have already started.

  (From VOX).
"... Donald Trump has won — and American democracy is now in grave danger ..."

AND, the NYT,
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/us/politics/election-takeaways-trump-harris.html

STILL Campaigning for Harris !

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by JOG on 11/06/24 at 13:54:17


2606040C1106630 wrote:
 I assume it is calculating it off a flawed logic since the opinion thing makes no sense here to begin with.  I have a question and that question is based off the opinion that my eyes have not seen a specific thing.  

 I can't prove that my eyes are not seeing RIOTS!, another flawed logic consistent on this forums, so it can only be opinion and not fact.  

 Basically no post I can make can be fact since the challenges are typically to prove a negative.  I don't see RIOTS! anywhere, but I can not prove I do not, thus making the statement non-factual.  Since the only two possible outcomes presented are Fact or Opinion, any non-factual post must be Opinion.

 This post is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.




I have a question and that question is based off the opinion that my eyes have not seen a specific thing.  

That you have Not Seen something is a statement of fact. It's not an opinion.


o·pin·ion
[ch601][ch712]piny([ch601])n]
noun
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge:
"I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance" · "that, in my opinion, is dead right"
Similar:
belief
judgment
thought(s)
school of thought

the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing:
"the changing climate of opinion"
(opinion of)
an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something:
"I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved"
a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter:
"seeking a second opinion from a specialist"

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 11/06/24 at 14:20:25

I have a question and that question is based off the opinion that my eyes have not seen a specific thing.  

That you have Not Seen something is a statement of fact. It's not an opinion.



 I would think so too, this is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is, but like I said, there's a few flawed logics that are consistent here, that need to be sorted through, which is an opinion.  Like the regular requests to prove a negative and the two alternative method of only allowing Fact or Opinion.  If a post is not Fact, it can only be Opinion.  This is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is. 

 This post is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.  The previous sentence indicated an opinion.

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by JOG on 11/06/24 at 15:02:01

Wow! You really are losing it! T&T got scrambled after trying to prove me wrong, too. How much longer until they replace you?

Title: Re: What happens….
Post by Eegore on 11/06/24 at 19:30:20

Wow! You really are losing it! T&T got scrambled after trying to prove me wrong, too. How much longer until they replace you?

 You do a pretty good job proving yourself wrong on a few things.   I don't need to do that.  This is my opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.  Typically I point out one small portion of an overall broad topic that I think is incorrect and you act like I am saying everything you ever said is wrong, and anything you disagree with is right.  This is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.  

 How many times have I tried to tell you I think (that indicates an opinion) BOTH your statistics AND ALSO environmental alarmist statistics are wrong.  But you insist I am saying they are right and giving them "an out".  Incorrect.  I can think you are BOTH wrong at the same time.

 This post is an opinion for any human incapable of understanding what an opinion is.  The previous sentence indicated a human opinion.

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