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Title: Canada responds Post by Eegore on 01/16/25 at 14:11:52 McGuinty, flanked by the head of the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and a senior RCMP official, said Wednesday the government has already deployed 60 new drones and is setting up surveillance towers near the 8,891-kilometre border. Idiots. Don't they know that dropping billions on a physical wall staffed 24/7 with thousands of Border Patrol staff with binoculars is better than modern technology? I mean prisons do it, and there's really no difference between a single parcel of property and miles and miles of border over all kinds of variable terrain. Maybe we do need to invade Canada. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by MnSpring on 01/16/25 at 16:08:48 4060626A7760050 wrote:
Your take on: Hillery says; 'DEPORT' it was good. Trump says: 'DEPORT', it is bad. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by Eegore on 01/16/25 at 16:35:05 Your take on: Hillery says; 'DEPORT' it was good. Trump says: 'DEPORT', it is bad. No different than when I quote Obama policy and say Trump did it and it's all good. Many humans don't care about what actually is in policy, they care if the human they like said it. My opinion in this thread is that Canada obviously has no idea how to reliably patrol a border since it has been established here that a physical wall manned by thousands 24/7 is superior to all other known forms of surveillance. The logic being prisons do it. These drones and helicopters are obviously a waste of time. Canada needs to drop billions on a wall and make some other country pay for it. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by MnSpring on 01/16/25 at 17:16:48 59797B736E791C0 wrote:
Rather different, when you quote Obama. then say trump said it. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by Eegore on 01/16/25 at 17:49:05 Rather different, when you quote Obama. then say trump said it. No different, to me, in regard to humans only caring who said it. Not what was said. My opinion in this thread is that Canada simply does not know how to secure a border. They obviously need to dump billions into a wall and stop with this modern technology business. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by WebsterMark on 01/17/25 at 03:52:13 Canada is not going to become to 51st State but I imagine there will be much greater cooperation between Canada and the US starting next week. Let me modify that and say cooperation in a good direction. That will only get better after they get rid of Fidel Castro’s son. The only way they would become the 51st State is so they could get rid of their healthcare system and bring US hospitals and insurance north of the border. I know a lot of people in our Canadian office and they just accept the fact they have substandard healthcare unless they have enough money to pay it out of their pocket. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by MnSpring on 01/17/25 at 06:33:38 5A686F7E79687F406C7F660D0 wrote:
The City of Rochester Minn. (Where the MAYO Hospital is) Over 1/2 the License plates are from Canada. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by JOG on 01/17/25 at 16:56:16 My wife was in Scott and White, here in Texas. It's called the Mayo of the South. They have an RV parking lot. It was about 40 years ago. The plates on the majority of the RVs were from Canada. Their care has sucked for a long time. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by WebsterMark on 01/18/25 at 03:58:33 That’s what I’ve heard from the Canadian people. They just learn to deal with it. One of my motorcycle riding buddies has lupus and he went up to the Mayo clinic last week. Did all kinds of work on him and now he’s got a new experimental medicine that’s gonna extend his riding for a few more years. No way that happens in Canada. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by JOG on 01/18/25 at 09:14:26 You gotta Problum, Eh? We've got antihistamine, aspirin, cough syrup and if none of those sound good We offer a very peaceful suicide. What'l it be mate? |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/19/25 at 23:25:44 I have heard many times from people who live South of the border how terrible the health care is in Canada, but nothing could be further from the truth. Some doctors are a waste of time, but whenever I have come across that problem I just got another one, there are lots to choose from, and they are free. There are big fat unhealthy people everywhere, but I have no doubt that the vast majority live in America. No matter how good the health service is we all snuff it, and that includes the doctors. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by WebsterMark on 01/20/25 at 05:28:11 3836353E5A0 wrote:
I’ve not spoken to a single Canadian who has experienced both who says the Canadian healthcare system is better from a healthcare point of view, thr only benefit they cite is the cost. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/20/25 at 05:39:35 1E2C2B3A3D2C3B04283B22490 wrote:
Having experienced the free health care systems in England, Scotland, France, Saskatchewan, Sweden and Ireland, I can say without doubt that none of them are better that the health care system in Saskatchewan. I could have paid for private health care in any of the above countries ( As I would have no choice but to do in America ? ) had I so wished, but did not find it necessary. :) PS, Come to think of it, the only time I have ever had to pay for healthcare was when I first came to Canada and was still not a Canadian citizen. I damaged the epididymis of my left testicle when splitting logs, which caused it to swell to the size of an extra large egg. It was well worth the $160 it cost to get it sorted. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/20/25 at 05:52:44 Another American misconception I encounter all the time is that Canadians have no guns.. I can honestly say that I have so many guns I don't even know how many guns I own, even my old woman has guns. ;D http://https://i.imgur.com/YhFIAvkh.jpg |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by MnSpring on 01/20/25 at 07:42:57 76787B70140 wrote:
My experience, with what I was told, by a Canadian Citizen, about his daughter could NOT get care. After he tried for a YEAR, then he came to Mayo., and it got done !!!!! |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/20/25 at 09:13:32 13300D2E2C3730395E0 wrote:
My experience, with what I was told, by a Canadian Citizen, about his daughter could NOT get care. After he tried for a YEAR, then he came to Mayo., and it got done !!!!![/quote] I don't think that is your experience, I think it's someone else's bs. I have heard of Canadians getting specialized care in the US which was funded by Canadian healthcare . |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by MnSpring on 01/20/25 at 09:50:58 5856555E3A0 wrote:
You would be WRONG !!! |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/20/25 at 11:50:25 Just 5 minutes ago I got a call from the hospital in Moose Jaw. My Nurse practitioner ( doctor ) booked me in for a CT scan , whatever that is lol. I got the appointment changed to the 30th.. And its free ! :) |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/20/25 at 11:51:37 6744795A5843444D2A0 wrote:
You would be WRONG !!![/quote] I could also be right !!! ;D |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/20/25 at 11:55:55 It looks like a CT scan is quite a complex thing. I bet it's expensive. I'm glad I don't have to pay for it. https://www.healthline.com/health/ct-scan |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by MnSpring on 01/20/25 at 13:54:35 2E2023284C0 wrote:
Ya you do. It's called TAXES ! |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/20/25 at 14:22:01 5B784566647F7871160 wrote:
Ya you do. It's called TAXES ![/quoteI am 70 years old and retired. I live on pensions and don't have to worry about taxes any more. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by MnSpring on 01/20/25 at 14:44:00 "... I live on pensions and don't have to worry about taxes any more. ..." A Yep, not now. (Someone else is paying for you) Just think how much more 'Pension" you would have, IF you did not have, 'Free Healthcare' LOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOL |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by JOG on 01/20/25 at 15:35:39 [ch128514][ch128514][ch128514][ch128514][ch128514] |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/20/25 at 17:32:36 01221F3C3E25222B4C0 wrote:
I don't make the rules, I just live with them like everyone else. Nevertheless in this case they make me very happy. Saskatchewan Canada is a wonderful place to live.:) ;D 8-) It must suck big time to live in the USA, I feel sorry for you. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by JOG on 01/20/25 at 18:11:18 [ch128514][ch128514][ch128514][ch128514][ch128514] Yeah, the last few years it's been ugly. Hopefully, things will turn around. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by Serowbot on 01/21/25 at 08:13:22 Canadians, and other countries with universal health, have longer lifespans and better health outcomes than the abysmal results in US Facts are not up for debate If tax breaks are worth your health, that's an option, but facts are not disputable Few Canadians would trade their healthcare for a tax break |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by JOG on 01/21/25 at 10:35:04 4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
So you've changed your stance on gun control? |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/24/25 at 11:02:32 I just canceled my CT scan as it will apparently give me 400x the radiation of a normal chest Xray ! That's almost as dangerous as getting a Covid-19 injection . |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by Eegore on 01/24/25 at 11:32:43 0.1 millisieverts (mSv) of radiation is something a normal human walking around on the planet will receive in less than 2 weeks. That's a standard chest X-ray. A chest CT is about 6.1 mSv. People that go on a beach vacation regularly will get hit with about that much. Then again people say millions of kids died from the vaccine so CT scans must be killing hundreds of millions of people a year. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by MnSpring on 01/24/25 at 11:41:58 414F4C47230 wrote:
A-Yep ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D “… as with many Canadian misconceptions, this is a case of them mistaking themselves for Americans. …” “… There’s also the other part of the Charter where provincial governments can steamroll any freedom they want, provided they publicly announce that they’re doing so. …” “… The Supreme Court said in 1993 that “Canadians, unlike Americans do not have a constitutional right to bear arms. …” "... the first vaccine mandates were introduced in Canada. ..." "... The federal government imposed mandatory vaccinations on federal public servants. ..." |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by ThumperPaul on 01/24/25 at 13:08:32 Did somebody say “Free Healthcare “? Bwahahaha. Bwahahaha! Just because you aren't paying for it anymore, the younger generations sure are. And just wait until they start rationing care. In 2024, Canada spent an estimated $372 billion on health care, or $9,054 per Canadian. This is expected to be a 5.7% increase from 2023. Proud and happy to say I live in the USA despite our issues. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/25/25 at 03:11:37 1434363E2334510 wrote:
I don't believe in taking any risks with my life, I only have the one. Feel free to do whatever you want with yours though. ;D |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/25/25 at 03:19:52 1A390427253E3930570 wrote:
A-Yep ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D “… as with many Canadian misconceptions, this is a case of them mistaking themselves for Americans. …” “… There’s also the other part of the Charter where provincial governments can steamroll any freedom they want, provided they publicly announce that they’re doing so. …” “… The Supreme Court said in 1993 that “Canadians, unlike Americans do not have a constitutional right to bear arms. …” "... the first vaccine mandates were introduced in Canada. ..." "... The federal government imposed mandatory vaccinations on federal public servants. ..." [/quote] Canadians mistaking themselves for Americans ! LOL. You have no clue, typical clueless American on every point raised. ;D |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/25/25 at 03:21:40 477B667E6376614372667F130 wrote:
Yet another dimwit American !! ::) |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by ThumperPaul on 01/25/25 at 05:25:43 5F5152593D0 wrote:
Yet another dimwit American !! ::) [/quote] What a miserable, pathetic, and sad life you must live to be so ugly and negative about everything - from the USA to any motorcycle with technology after 1970. I’d pity you, but you’re not worth it. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by Eegore on 01/25/25 at 05:45:52 Why do any of you care if a Canadian is getting free Canadian healthcare? Even if that healthcare is free from the US? Because he said something bad about the US? Who cares. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by ThumperPaul on 01/25/25 at 07:53:55 7A5A58504D5A3F0 wrote:
I’m not sure whom you are talking to, but I kinda take offense to being called a dimwit American for finding it ignorantly laughable that someone calls it “free healthcare”. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by Eegore on 01/25/25 at 08:07:50 I’m not sure whom you are talking to, but I kinda take offense to being called a dimwit American for finding it ignorantly laughable that someone calls it “free healthcare”. By comparison to the US healthcare system, it is more "free" than "paid" when receiving services by my logic simply because a human is not charged for the direct medical service. Like a buy one get one free item at a store. Not free, but I wasn't directly charged for it, so it's more "free" to me than explaining how percentage markups on other items mitigate the non-charged item by passing cost through other items. Technically nothing is "free" when it comes to Government services, so in that regard there is no "free" anything if a human has ever paid any taxes. Like how I can freely travel from State to State. Technically I can't because I don't use private property to do it. I have "free" speech, but technically 1st Amendment violations are handled in US courts so I pay for that right. I'd say just about anything can be challenged in that way. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by ThumperPaul on 01/25/25 at 08:29:31 Your logic and analogies are merely rationalizations. Just because you don’t physically hand over a dollar for something at the time of service doesn’t mean it’s free. You’re playing mind games with yourself. There is nothing inherently better about a single-payer system than a multi-payer system. And it’s a joke if you think any government can be more efficient than a free market system. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/25/25 at 09:26:03 58787A726F781D0 wrote:
I don't care, but quite a few people here seem to care a lot, I hope they explain why. :) |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by Eegore on 01/25/25 at 10:36:01 Your logic and analogies are merely rationalizations. Just because you don’t physically hand over a dollar for something at the time of service doesn’t mean it’s free. You’re playing mind games with yourself. That's what I am saying. I literally said buy one get one free is not free. Nothing really is "free" when dealing with transactional interactions. The difference is the Canadian system doesn't cripple the sick individual with outstanding medical debt. It's not "free", but you also don't rack up hundreds of thousands of dollars of personal debt. So Canadian healthcare is more "free" than US healthcare when it comes to personal funds used to mitigate cost. There is nothing inherently better about a single-payer system than a multi-payer system. And it’s a joke if you think any government can be more efficient than a free market system. The tradeoff being a multi-payer system rarely plummets the individual into irrecoverable lifetime debt, many times even passed on to the family after death. However there is the consequence of less innovation and efficiency. The question is why does anyone care if a Canadian gets Canadian healthcare? |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/25/25 at 11:05:55 5A7A78706D7A1F0 wrote:
They care because they don't get Canadian healthcare. ;) |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by blod on 01/25/25 at 11:32:51 I think the vast majority of healthcare is a waste of time, Canadian healthcare included. The only time it's worth having healthcare coverage is if you get in an accident and need to get your injuries fixed. The healthcare industry does not want to cure anyone, there is no profit in that, they want to keep you sick. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by TheBabyDerp on 01/25/25 at 11:54:26 I'll add my opinion. I am a Trump voting Republican btw. I agree with blod. I get a lot of scoffing from my peers but oh well. I do think healthcare should be cheap/free for all citizens and permanent residents. I don't think Democrats have a good solution though. They are all talk and no action. Democrats all of a sudden forget about healthcare once they have power. The rest of their platform is just straight insanity to me. Republican politicians simply ignore the problem. Screwed by both sides. I could rant on about other topics too. My views completely changed once I got hired by a European company operating in the US. The difference between working for a European ran company vs an American company is absolutely staggering. I actually feel human rather than just another number. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by Eegore on 01/25/25 at 12:37:20 I could rant on about other topics too. My views completely changed once I got hired by a European company operating in the US. The difference between working for a European ran company vs an American company is absolutely staggering. I actually feel human rather than just another number. You want a good culture shock, jump over to a Japanese company. I've never seen so many people dedicated to work and sacrificing their personal lives. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by TheBabyDerp on 01/25/25 at 12:50:09 The Japanese are dedicated to work a little too much. Europeans have a better understanding of work-life balance. |
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Title: Re: Canada responds Post by Serowbot on 01/25/25 at 13:47:27 Jumping out a window on the first floor It's not so tuff :-? |
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