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Message started by WebsterMark on 04/17/25 at 03:57:33

Title: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/17/25 at 03:57:33

This is what TDS will do to you.

On Wednesday, Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., flew to El Salvador to visit Abrego Garcia in prison and work to secure his release. His trip has been criticized by many, including the mother of Rachel Morrin, a 39-year-old Maryland mother who was raped and murdered by a Salvadoran illegal immigrant in 2023.

"To have a senator from Maryland who didn't even acknowledge, or barely acknowledge, my daughter and the brutal death that she endured, leaving her five children without a mother and now a grandbaby without a grandmother so that he can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador to bring back someone that's not even an American citizen. Why does that person have more rights than I do, or my daughter, or my grandchildren? I don't understand this," she said.


Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/17/25 at 04:36:52

I would say; A mind is a terrible thing, if you identify with it.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by Serowbot on 04/17/25 at 07:47:14

A brown person raped someone
Round them all up and send them to foreign Gulags forever without trial

Is that the logic?

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/17/25 at 08:45:23

Guys I just had a call wiht the whitehouse:


Look, folks, we need to be strong — but we also need to be human. That’s what people forget. You can have the strongest borders, the best justice system — like we did — but if you throw out the human side, you lose the whole thing. Totally.

The human touch, the decency — that’s the safety net. That’s what holds it all together. Without it, you’re not America anymore. You’re just angry. You're just pointing fingers.

Yes, we go after criminals. Yes, we protect Americans first. Always. But we don’t throw people into gulags without a trial. That’s not us. That’s not what made us great.

Strong AND fair. Tough AND decent. That’s how we win. That’s how we lead.

UTUS

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/17/25 at 08:52:30

I think we should trust Trump and where he makes mistakes we should put them right, but that is different from opposing a elected policy that has America's best interests at heart.

UTUS.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by Eegore on 04/17/25 at 10:08:18


 Anyone that used actual documents and not "the news" would have already known Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a criminal record.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/17/25 at 10:25:49


796F78657D68657E0A0 wrote:
A brown person raped someone
Round them all up and send them to foreign Gulags forever without trial

Is that the logic?

I didn’t know he raped anyone. Just beat the hell out of his wife. Where did you get that?

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/17/25 at 10:29:16

The point is how stupid, how obtuse do you have to be as a Senator in order to pretend this guy is Nelson Mandela or something. He’s another country’s problem. We’ve got enough problems of our own to take on more.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by Serowbot on 04/17/25 at 10:55:43

The point is we have a Constitution that requires legal representation and a trial before sentencing
Even then... we don't put them in foreign Gulags
Even prisoners have rights
Pub's used the pretend to care about that

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/17/25 at 13:47:02

You’re pretending now. You didn’t give a $hit a veteran was shot and killed protesting on Jan 6, did far less criminal acts that Antifa at their protest , her killer was never officially identified and was adjudicated in secret so spare me your fake outrage over an illegal who beat his girlfriend, blew off court and associated with MS13 and is most likely a member of a terrorist gang.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by MnSpring on 04/19/25 at 12:30:11

Gov. Katie Hobbs,, TOTALLY ignoring the PEOPLE who PAY TAXES !!!!!!!!!!
REMOVING the power for a town in AZ to manage their OWN Zoning/Area.
She is very good at, doing what she is told to do.
 (Wonder what her KICK-BACK was to do that ???)

““Hobbs signs bill allowing Axon to skip public vote on Scottsdale development “”

Of course, PROTECTING ILLEGALS, was included.

Then not a peep from her about the Elect rate for Homeowners RAISED,
Commerce rate RAISED (Yet only about half, the rate than homeowners)
And  LOWERED THE RATE, for her, “favorite entries” !

Yet a Mupper & a Clone, say,
the current POTUS is a dictator.

;D
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Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by Serowbot on 04/19/25 at 12:51:12


417374656273645B77647D160 wrote:
You’re pretending now. You didn’t give a $hit a veteran was shot and killed protesting on Jan 6, did far less criminal acts that Antifa at their protest , her killer was never officially identified and was adjudicated in secret so spare me your fake outrage over an illegal who beat his girlfriend, blew off court and associated with MS13 and is most likely a member of a terrorist gang.

While she was busting through a Capitol building door yelling "Kill Nancy!  Kill Pence!"?
No, not really
Vets are supposed to uphold the Constitution not tear it down

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by MnSpring on 04/19/25 at 19:16:10


7E687F627A6F62790D0 wrote:
"... While she was busting through a Capitol building door yelling "Kill Nancy!  Kill Pence!"? ..."


Where is that recorded that she did that ?


Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by Eegore on 04/19/25 at 22:06:56


Where is that recorded that she did that ?

 Nowhere.  

 The due-process argument in regard to the El Salvador deportations has lead to a situation where everyone is wrong.  Also everyone is right, in one way or another.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/20/25 at 02:38:20

Deportation is much less bad than the genocidal/ethnic cleansing that is happening in gaza.

We are ok with it, so it is ok.


We want peace in Ukraine and a fair trade balance. That shows that we are morally good and that Israel can do whatever it wants because yes, in the end it is about money and America is in the hands of a few very rich people and they have a Jewish background and they control the world.

Yes, I bet China wants that too because power is power and who doesn't want power?
Well, that a few people are the ones who suffer from that is just secondary. In the meantime, the air is polluted, food is polluted, drinking water is polluted, the oceans are full of plastic, and environmental measures are a new profit model.
The government has taken too much power and wants absolute control.
All houses are bought up by large investment companies and poverty can be found on every street corner.
Everyone numbs themselves and is stuck in their habitual patterns.


But no worries, as long as we can depot enough people and offer gender reassignment surgery, we will be fine.

http://https://i.imgur.com/nn4HEyKm.jpg

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/20/25 at 03:52:59


2630273A22373A21550 wrote:
[quote author=417374656273645B77647D160 link=1744887453/0#9 date=1744922822]You’re pretending now. You didn’t give a $hit a veteran was shot and killed protesting on Jan 6, did far less criminal acts that Antifa at their protest , her killer was never officially identified and was adjudicated in secret so spare me your fake outrage over an illegal who beat his girlfriend, blew off court and associated with MS13 and is most likely a member of a terrorist gang.

While she was busting through a Capitol building door yelling "Kill Nancy!  Kill Pence!"?
No, not really
Vets are supposed to uphold the Constitution not tear it down[/quote]

I’ve seen the video of her being shot and killed and I don’t recall hearing that. You’re either purposely lying or inadvertently spreading a false story. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but you tell me which it was.

Point is, don’t pretend you and the other leftist are living and dying on principle regarding this case because you’re not. The left has decided to treat this wife beater like Nelson Mandela. The bottom line is he’s in the country illegally and he shouldn’t come back. He’s got more than suspicious activities during his time while being here illegally that reinforces the fact he shouldn’t be here.

Is it fair to his wife and child? Not really, but lots of unfair things happen to people. The difference here is leftist are desperate to gain ground on Trump but someone foolishly picked this guy as a poster child.

Leftist are politically blind. You thought you could fool everyone into believing Biden was fine and then thought you could convince everyone VP Cackles was a better choice.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/20/25 at 04:25:18


180714070C070C0710050B07620 wrote:
Deportation is much less bad than the genocidal/ethnic cleansing that is happening in gaza.

We are ok with it, so it is ok.

Let’s get one thing straight. There is no ethnic  cleansing going on in Gaza. Israel is being compassionate given the circumstances. The responsibility for what’s occurring there is spread among a number of groups but Israel is not on that list.

We want peace in Ukraine and a fair trade balance. That shows that we are morally good and that Israel can do whatever it wants because yes, in the end it is about money and America is in the hands of a few very rich people and they have a Jewish background and they control the world.

Yes, I bet China wants that too because power is power and who doesn't want power?
Well, that a few people are the ones who suffer from that is just secondary. In the meantime, the air is polluted, food is polluted, drinking water is polluted, the oceans are full of plastic, and environmental measures are a new profit model.
The government has taken too much power and wants absolute control.
All houses are bought up by large investment companies and poverty can be found on every street corner.
Everyone numbs themselves and is stuck in their habitual patterns.


But no worries, as long as we can depot enough people and offer gender reassignment surgery, we will be fine.

http://https://i.imgur.com/nn4HEyKm.jpg


Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/20/25 at 10:49:29

Dictionary:

Compassion is the natural ability to feel involved with pain and suffering, with the desire to alleviate this pain and suffering in yourself and others and to take responsibility for it.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/20/25 at 16:10:48

I have compassion for those in Gaza who wish to live in peace and coexist with Israel. But like civilized Germans, they needed to be freed from Nazi rule. Wipe out any and everyone associated with Hamas. Cleanse them. Rebuild Gaza and populate it peaceful people.
That’s compassion.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by MnSpring on 04/23/25 at 18:50:58

"... You’re either purposely lying or inadvertently spreading a false story ..."

Na, Just repeating,
what they were,
TOLD TO SAY !

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/24/25 at 01:55:07


112324353223340B27342D460 wrote:
I have compassion for those in Gaza who wish to live in peace and coexist with Israel. But like civilized Germans, they needed to be freed from Nazi rule. Wipe out any and everyone associated with Hamas. Cleanse them. ????That's genocide Because all the people in Gaza sympathize with Hamas.Rebuild Gaza and populate it peaceful people.???? That's ethnic cleansing.


That’s compassion.


No...It has just the tiniest hint of compassion.(In your mind(Opinion))
As thin as the colored, wafer-thin layer of oil on a puddle of water.

http://https://i.imgur.com/8Yntx1km.jpg


Compassion is a spiritual wealth that has nothing to do with opinions but everything to do with unconditional love.

Buddhism, Christianity, came from two ordinary people like you and me who loved unconditionally.
(Just to show how powerful spiritual wealth is).

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/24/25 at 04:46:31


180714070C070C0710050B07620 wrote:
[quote author=112324353223340B27342D460 link=1744887453/15#18 date=1745190648]I have compassion for those in Gaza who wish to live in peace and coexist with Israel. But like civilized Germans, they needed to be freed from Nazi rule. Wipe out any and everyone associated with Hamas. Cleanse them. ????That's genocide Because all the people in Gaza sympathize with Hamas.if you sympathize with killing children in front of their parents, cutting a woman’s achilles tendon so she can’t run away and brutally raping her before you cut her head off, tossing another woman’s body in the back of a pickup with her arms and legs, so broken, she look like a ragdoll, and then driving around town so people could spit on her remains, if someone supports and sympathizes with that, why should Israel let that person live next door?.Rebuild Gaza and populate it peaceful people.???? That's ethnic cleansing.


That’s compassion.


No...It has just the tiniest hint of compassion.(In your mind(Opinion))
As thin as the colored, wafer-thin layer of oil on a puddle of water.

http://https://i.imgur.com/8Yntx1km.jpg


Compassion is a spiritual wealth that has nothing to do with opinions but everything to do with unconditional love.

Buddhism, Christianity, came from two ordinary people like you and me who loved unconditionally.
(Just to show how powerful spiritual wealth is).[/quote]

Someone once said there is a time for peace and a time for war, a time to kill and a time to heal. Wipe out terrorist Hamas throughout Gaza and give it to those who wish to live in peace with their neighbors.

There’s only one group responsible for this and it ain’t Israel.



Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/24/25 at 05:08:11

Wait a minute Web...

Before the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, the area that is now Israel was under British rule. This area was called the British Mandate for Palestine and was established after World War I. The mandate was approved by the League of Nations (the forerunner of the United Nations) in 1922, after the Ottoman Empire was expelled from the area by the Allies in 1917.

During the period of the British Mandate, Palestine was a mixed society with both Jewish and Arab communities. The Jewish population had grown over time, mainly due to the Zionist movement, which sought a Jewish state in Palestine. This led to tensions and conflicts between Jews and Arabs in the area.

Before the British Mandate, Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled the area for more than four centuries, from the early 16th century until the Ottoman Empire's defeat in World War I. Ottoman rule in Palestine was relatively loose and there was a mixture of different ethnic and religious groups, including Arabs (Muslims and Christians) and a smaller Jewish community.

So how does your so called "compassionate reset" end the conflict?

Because your way of thinking has a name.
"Zero-sum thinking": This is the belief that there can only be one winner in a conflict and that the interests of the other side must be completely sacrificed to realize one's own interests.

But there are many ways of thinking. Why do you choose this one?

Without judgment. It is a selfish way of thinking and without any form of compassion (That is thinking always)

While Compassion is a much more subtle force, it is much more powerful as an instrument to resolve conflicts or suffering.

And you break through the vicious circle of inflicting trauma.
And Trauma energy is what veils people's compassion.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by MnSpring on 04/24/25 at 06:29:06

North America was once occupied by Dinosaurs, Inca, Aztecs, people crossing the bearing straight, Vikings,  then, … then … then … etc.

It is not relevant who lived in an area in the past, it is relevant who is now, and how they interact with each other.

And it is Cristal Clear that Hamas, does NOT play well with others !

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/24/25 at 06:49:15

So you're turning the tables?

It's crystal clear that the Jewish people in Israel (the Israelis) are anything but a hair better than the people in Gaza.
One reacts to the other.

A "compassionate reset" that everyone can follow in the news is a disgrace to humanity.
But it is a good gauge if you want to see how humanity is doing.

No matter how you look at it, it's wrong.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by MnSpring on 04/24/25 at 07:32:43

 Just a few remarks from a UL FDS Web sight.

“… Even before sweeping to power in Gaza in 2007, Hamas openly sought the "obliteration" of Israel as a matter of policy.

has been sealed off since 2005 by both Israel and Egypt over fears of an attack, though smuggling tunnels have long left it notoriously porous.

Hamas has said it was motivated to launch the attack essentially as the culmination of long-building anger over Israeli policy,

there's no "moral equivalence" to draw between Hamas' attacks on Israeli citizens — including the slaughter of families in their homes and hundreds of young people at a music festival —

Iran has denied any role in Hamas' attack on Israel, but Hamas could not exist in its current form without Iran's financial and political support. 
Neither the Palestinian faction nor the Iranians have attempted to hide their close ties.
Hamas believes that the normalization of relations between Israel and the surrounding Arab states and the integration of Israel into the region is a significant threat

told CBS News that Hamas' objective was "to not just relieve Palestinians of the occupation of the West Bank and Israel's blockade of the Gaza strip, but in fact strike at the heart of Israel."  …”



    Again, who attacked who ?




Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/24/25 at 08:09:07

Your point is beyond dispute.

But wisest is he who stops it,  (not by a compassionate reset).

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by Eegore on 04/24/25 at 08:27:31


Your point is beyond dispute.

But wisest is he who stops it,  (not by a compassionate reset).


 But who attacked first?

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/24/25 at 09:27:27

It was you Eegore.
About 800.032 Incarnations before this one. We where al having a good time till you showed up.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by thumperclone on 04/24/25 at 09:34:10

[quote author=455A495A515A515A4D58565A3F0 link=1744887453/15#22 date=1745496491]Wait a minute Web...

Before the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, the area that is now Israel was under British rule.

you forget the Jews have a 3,000 year history in what is now called Palestine long before there were any Muslims

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/24/25 at 09:52:10


5D4251424942494255404E42270 wrote:
Wait a minute Web...

Before the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, the area that is now Israel was under British rule. This area was called the British Mandate for Palestine and was established after World War I. The mandate was approved by the League of Nations (the forerunner of the United Nations) in 1922, after the Ottoman Empire was expelled from the area by the Allies in 1917.

During the period of the British Mandate, Palestine was a mixed society with both Jewish and Arab communities. The Jewish population had grown over time, mainly due to the Zionist movement, which sought a Jewish state in Palestine. This led to tensions and conflicts between Jews and Arabs in the area.

Before the British Mandate, Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled the area for more than four centuries, from the early 16th century until the Ottoman Empire's defeat in World War I. Ottoman rule in Palestine was relatively loose and there was a mixture of different ethnic and religious groups, including Arabs (Muslims and Christians) and a smaller Jewish community.

So how does your so called "compassionate reset" end the conflict?

Because your way of thinking has a name.
"Zero-sum thinking": This is the belief that there can only be one winner in a conflict and that the interests of the other side must be completely sacrificed to realize one's own interests.

But there are many ways of thinking. Why do you choose this one?

Without judgment. It is a selfish way of thinking and without any form of compassion (That is thinking always)

While Compassion is a much more subtle force, it is much more powerful as an instrument to resolve conflicts or suffering.

And you break through the vicious circle of inflicting trauma.
And Trauma energy is what veils people's compassion.


Here’s the definitive statement that answers all your issues.

If Hamas, supported by the Palestinian people as you say, withdrew lay down their weapons and never attacked Israel again, there would be peace in the region because Israel would not attack.

If the Israel military withdrew, did not set up any kind of security and relied on the Palestinian and Hamas people for peace, Israel would be destroyed because Hamas and the Palestinian people would attack.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/24/25 at 11:34:20

I,m not so sure about that. As I see it happening now, Israel is now the perpetrator.

I don't know if you see what is going on, but there is a hardening going on in the world. That means people are getting further and further away from their essence.
You saw it happen in Germany before the Second World War. People in Germany became unconscious at a high rate. People who saw it coming fled the country.
Unconsciousness is very contagious and before you knew it, the Second World War was there.

Wir haben es nicht gewußt ("We didn't know") was an ironic saying in the years after the Second World War about the attitude of the German population around the Holocaust.

But it was also true that they didn't realize that their consciousness was narrowing. If that happens to you, you don't realize it either because you think you're right.

Now, however, there is no escape possible. This will be a world war in which everyone will be involved. I know when you last went to war but look at the veterans who have been on the battlefield for a long time and what it has done to them.
I would be careful what you wish for because a compassionate reset broadcast on television is triggering total unconsciousness worldwide.
And it has been going on for a while.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by MnSpring on 04/24/25 at 12:14:58


514E5D4E454E454E594C424E2B0 wrote:
"... As I see it happening now, Israel is now the perpetrator."


So if someone Kills, Rapes, Steals, Lies,
 (And there is no doubt those things, were/are, done)

And a person that does something to stop that behavior, is a, 'perpetrator'.

Good to know that is your opinion.


Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/24/25 at 14:57:29

Ok but how far do you go?

There is such a thing as proportional violence. And Israel has gone way beyond that limit.

Sometimes it's good to step out of your world for a while. And drink something completely different than the gut feelings you get from the Mainstream media.

So here's the invitation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlH77IPKyps
start at 54:14


Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/24/25 at 16:03:04


5F4053404B404B4057424C40250 wrote:
I,m not so sure about that. As I see it happening now, Israel is now the perpetrator. Israel has decided (correctly I believe) that trusting the Palestinians and by default Hamas, will be peaceful is never going to happen. So to protect themselves, they are seeking out anyone associated with Hamas. If there’s a rabid dog who only wants to attack and killed me, I’m not going to pretend otherwise. I’m going to take it out.

I don't know if you see what is going on, but there is a hardening going on in the world. That means people are getting further and further away from their essence.
You saw it happen in Germany before the Second World War. People in Germany became unconscious at a high rate. People who saw it coming fled the country.
Unconsciousness is very contagious and before you knew it, the Second World War was there.

Wir haben es nicht gewußt ("We didn't know") was an ironic saying in the years after the Second World War about the attitude of the German population around the Holocaust.
Maybe, maybe not but there is zero in common with Nazi Germany and modern day Israel. Zero.
But it was also true that they didn't realize that their consciousness was narrowing. If that happens to you, you don't realize it either because you think you're right.

Now, however, there is no escape possible. This will be a world war in which everyone will be involved. I know when you last went to war but look at the veterans who have been on the battlefield for a long time and what it has done to them.
I would be careful what you wish for because a compassionate reset broadcast on television is triggering total unconsciousness worldwide.
And it has been going on for a while.


Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/24/25 at 16:09:24


253A293A313A313A2D38363A5F0 wrote:
Ok but how far do you go?

There is such a thing as proportional violence. And Israel has gone way beyond that limit.Israel has not brutally raped and murder civilians and posted the videos for their family members to see them dying in horror.  

Sometimes it's good to step out of your world for a while. And drink something completely different than the gut feelings you get from the Mainstream media. I’m saw the videos. Have you? Did you see the woman with blood stained crotch, limboing because they cut her legs so she couldn’t run and did you see hear they found her head after they cut it off, hopefully after she was dead. You need to wake up.  How can you defend that?

So here's the invitation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlH77IPKyps
start at 54:14


Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by zevenenergie on 04/24/25 at 16:23:25

I've seen it Web, I've seen it all.
And I don't defend it.

And don't tell me I do, because I don't.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by WebsterMark on 04/25/25 at 04:05:36

Then explain to me how someone who obviously spends time digging into, what I’ll call for lack of a better term that coming to my mind right now, the spiritual side of things, even hint at some type of equivalency between:

Israel’s response to the Palestinian/Hamas murderous rampage?

How you can mention Hitler and Israel in the same breath as if they’re on the same side of any equation?

How every coin you toss on this topic ends up on the “Palestinians good / Israel bad” side?


And don’t tell me I can’t understand because I’m an America, narrow minded and living in a bubble cause that’s not true.

Title: Re: TDS-a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Post by MnSpring on 04/25/25 at 12:08:52


657A697A717A717A6D78767A1F0 wrote:
"... Israel is now the perpetrator. ..."


People, that support Hamas and what they do, are called ?

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