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Message started by JOG on 04/20/25 at 18:30:05

Title: I've read about this stuff before.
Post by JOG on 04/20/25 at 18:30:05

The system is not like a gyroscope, with the planets locked into a perfectly stable orbit. The planet goes through cycles that require more to understand than a trip to the planetarium.

https://thelibertydaily.com/nuclear-scientist-says-co2-is-not-causing-rising/

The CO2 comes Out as temperature rises. It's not the cause.

Title: Re: I've read about this stuff before.
Post by WebsterMark on 04/21/25 at 04:43:43

This topic was part of the Steyn/Mann lawsuit over the infamous hockey stick graph. I’ve read competing view points over this and this is clearly a topic with a lot of moving parts but for what it’s worth, my take is CO2 obviously increases temperature in a closed system. That’s not even debatable, but the dynamics of an entire planet seem like they would be infinitely more complicated however. The global warming religious zealots have hitched their wagon to CO2, but there are other gases and mechanisms at play as well.

The bottom line, however, is climate change, is not an immediate threat that requires billions of people around the world to be enslaved to a lifetime of energy poverty. There’s no reason for leftist wackos to throw paint on museum pieces or lay down in front of a roadway. Spend R&D funds on nuclear energy sources and practical EV vehicles without forcing a technology that’s not ready for prime time onto society’s back.

Title: Re: I've read about this stuff before.
Post by Serowbot on 04/21/25 at 07:32:13

98 say this and 2 say that
Do you give them equal credence?

Title: Re: I've read about this stuff before.
Post by MnSpring on 04/21/25 at 07:38:47


2234233E26333E25510 wrote:
98 say this and 2 say that
Do you give them equal credence?


In the case of climate change.

The 98 people,
are the LEMMINGS who are told what to say.  

Title: Re: I've read about this stuff before.
Post by Serowbot on 04/21/25 at 08:04:54

You're not a lemming?
I'll trust the lemmings with PhD's

Title: Re: I've read about this stuff before.
Post by MnSpring on 04/21/25 at 08:18:00


7C6A7D60786D607B0F0 wrote:
"... I'll trust the lemmings with PhD's


Especially when  those PhD's say what they are told to say.

(AND WHEN THAT IS THE SOURCE OF THEIR MONEY)

Title: Re: I've read about this stuff before.
Post by WebsterMark on 04/21/25 at 09:40:40


5C4A5D40584D405B2F0 wrote:
98 say this and 2 say that
Do you give them equal credence?


99 said the world was flat, but 1 didn’t.

But, be that as it may, I don’t agree that the number is 98 versus 2. And I’m not sure what you’re saying I’m in the 2% group about.

Are you saying 98% say CO2 is a greenhouse gas? If that’s your contention, I would agree and I would have to say 100% of reasonable people would agree with that. That’s not really debatable.

Are you saying 98% agree that 100% of observed temperature increased is caused entirely by the additional CO2 added to the atmosphere by human activity? If that’s what you’re saying, I would say there’s no way 98% of reasonable people agree with that.


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