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Title: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 04/30/25 at 14:31:01 I'm going to post the worst atrocities 47's cronies are committing. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 04/30/25 at 14:31:18 Donald Trump's ICE agents invade an innocent American family's home, force a woman and her three daughters onto the lawn half naked, seize their phones, laptops, and life savings and then leave them like an "an abandoned dog." This is the most horrifying MAGA regime story yet.. According to local TV station KFOR, roughly 20 federal agents — including ICE officers, U.S. Marshals, and FBI agents — raided the wrong house in Oklahoma City and told the woman inside, identified as "Marisa," that they had a search warrant. In reality, the suspects named in the warrant didn't live in the house. Not only that, but they weren't connected to anyone in the family. This is whats happens when you mix weaponized incompetency with ruthless fascism. Donald Trump and his minions are as stupid as they are cruel. "We just moved here from Maryland. We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens," said Marisa. The feds barged into the house, ransacked it, and forced the family outside in their underwear, displaying the kind of callousness and inhumanity we have come to expect from this administration. They seized the family's belongings, calling it "evidence." Since the warrant was invalid for the house, it really just amounted to governmental theft. "I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here. I have to feed my children," said Marissa. "I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.” "They were very dismissive, very rough, very careless,” she continued. "I kept pleading. I kept telling them we weren’t criminals. They were treating us like criminals. We were here by ourselves. We didn’t do anything." One agent dismissively told the family that it was a "little rough this morning," a gross understatement. This is an authoritarian nightmare. "It was so denigrating. That you do all of this to a family, to women, your fellow citizens. And it was ‘a little rough’? You literally traumatized me and my daughters for life. We’re going to have to go get help or get over this somehow," said Marisa. The agents told her that it might take days or even months for the family's belongings to be returned. They refused to give her a business card. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 04/30/25 at 14:38:08 Can you spell T-O-T-A-L-I-T-A-R-I-A-N-I-S-M? On April 29, 2025, House Republicans passed a procedural rule that restricts Democrats from initiating investigations into the Trump administration. The measure, advanced by House Speaker Mike Johnson, specifically blocks the minority party from bringing “resolutions of inquiry” to the House floor until October 1. These resolutions are one of the few tools available to the minority party to compel the executive branch to provide information, effectively limiting Democrats’ oversight capabilities during this period . [ch65532] [ch65532] The rule change passed narrowly, with a 216–208 vote, and has been criticized by Democrats as an effort to shield President Trump from accountability during his second term. It also prevents Democrats from forcing votes on various incidents or actions related to Trump’s first 100 days in office . [ch65532] This move is part of a broader pattern of actions by House Republicans to limit oversight of the Trump administration. For instance, they have previously blocked Democratic-led inquiries into Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Elon Musk’s role in the government . [ch65532] |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 04/30/25 at 16:00:22 A 10 YEAR OLD GIRL IN JIM JORDAN'S STATE OF OHIO WAS RAPED. Jim accused her of "making up" the story and called it a "hoax." TODAY, THE OHIO RAPIST WAS ARRESTED. JIM TRIED TO SILENCE A 10 YEAR OLD RAPE VICTIM. JUST LIKE JIM SILENCED 43 STUDENTS WHO WERE MOLESTED AT ON HIS WATCH. April 30, 2025 |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/02/25 at 12:44:28 Yesterday: Disgraceful behavior from Arkansas State Senator Dan Sullivan (R) who just called the POLICE on his OWN CONSTITUENTS at a Town Hall meeting because they were asking questions he did not like… |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/03/25 at 04:35:57 Jack Schlossberg- JFK grandson: This is what he said when he learned Trump unclassified his grandfather's assassination. This is pretty powerful! A.) "President Trump is obsessed with my grandfather — but not in his life or what he achieved in it. No, just like @robertfkennedyjr @realdonaldtrump is only interested in JFK’s carcass." B.) "JFK drafted the civil rights act — Trump made DEI illegal. JFK stared down Russia and did not blink — Trump is Russia’s closest ally. JFK sent a man to the moon — Trump gave Elon the keys to Air Force One. JFK created USAID — Trump eliminated it." C."JFK fought fascism and Communism. Trump is selling us out to tech warlords, at home and abroad. JFK stood behind unions and labor, demanding healthcare, higher pay. Trump is stripping working families from lifesaving care , financial support." D.)"These men are stealing history from present and future generations — by appropriating the past for their criminal agenda, they normalize themselves in the minds of those without living memory." |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/03/25 at 05:33:51 Like I've been saying for months, 47 LOST. He cheated, which means the entire Repiublican leadership cheated. MAGA and the Republican should be arrested, tried, hanged for treasonous election tampering, and the GOP should be banned from US soil. Republicans are just evil. 4,776,706 voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls according to US Elections Assistance Commission data. By August of 2024, for the first time since 1946, self-proclaimed “vigilante” voter-fraud hunters challenged the rights of 317,886 voters. The NAACP of Georgia estimates that by Election Day, the challenges exceeded 200,000 in Georgia alone. No less than 2,121,000 mail-in ballots were disqualified for minor clerical errors (e.g. postage due). At least 585,000 ballots cast in-precinct were also disqualified. 1,216,000 “provisional” ballots were rejected, not counted. 3.24 million new registrations were rejected or not entered on the rolls in time to vote. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by zevenenergie on 05/03/25 at 05:44:04 You've painted a very vivid picture, but I need more than emotional appeals. This kind of charged language only works if the audience isn't questioning the details. You say "47's cronies" are committing atrocities, but where's the clear, unambiguous evidence? Is there a court ruling, a credible witness, or a documented investigation that supports these claims? Every regime has its horrors, but when you use sweeping terms like "fascism" and "totalitarianism", you're diluting their meaning. If you're trying to convince people, your emotional shock tactics won't work long, term without solid proof. If you're truly interested in fixing what's wrong, you'd do better to focus on specifics and build a case, not just shout accusations. If you're so sure of the "atrocities" you're describing, why do they always lack the clear facts and sources? This feels more like rhetoric than an actual expose. If the facts are there, prove it with solid details, not just emotional rants. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by WebsterMark on 05/03/25 at 05:47:48 What he said: If you're so sure of the "atrocities" you're describing, why do they always lack the clear facts and sources? This feels more like rhetoric than an actual expose. If the facts are there, prove it with solid details, not just emotional rants. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/03/25 at 06:14:38 US Elections Assistance Commission data IS the Source. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/03/25 at 06:19:27 Rand Paul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOK2NW7Va6E |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by zevenenergie on 05/03/25 at 06:48:58 012A2A2B232A3C4F0 wrote:
Trump, may raise tariffs, but within certain legal frameworks. Congress originally has the authority over trade and tariffs, but over time Congress has delegated some of that authority to the president through various laws. The court can intervene if the president interprets his powers too broadly. But that does not mean that Trump is breaking laws. And it does not demonstrate bad policy either. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/03/25 at 07:41:34 The courts have been usurped by 47's toadies, and Republicans in Congress refuse to use their power to stop him. He has done away with due process, unreasonable search and seizure, violated the election laws, and pretty well destroyed the economy through tariffs. The border "crisis" is imaginary, as is the "crisis" of the US being overrun by (Brown) illegals. He's been allowed to break the laws so far, just because he thinks he's the king. MAGATs believe his lies. He's a racist, a Nazi, and almost anything else you can name that's anti-American. Over 37,000 DOUCMENTED LIES in his first term? And YOU believe him. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by zevenenergie on 05/03/25 at 07:55:41 Your response confirms my point that nuance and legal frameworks are currently being crowded out by emotional polarization. The fact that someone uses power within legally delegated frameworks does not automatically mean that power is illegitimate. You use dozens of crude terms, but completely miss the factual point: presidents, including Trump, are allowed to adjust tariffs within laws set by Congress. If that is abused, it is the job of the judiciary to intervene, and that has already happened in several cases. If you think the system is broken, focus on institutional reform, not demonization. Because that undermines the very rule of law that you claim to want to defend. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/03/25 at 13:04:54 In other news, 47's endorsements are losing elections for "conservative" parties all over the world, even where the Liberals were losing. Do you honestly believe 47 knows what he's doing? Give ONE example of how he has improved the lives of anyone. You can't even say he improved the lives of the 1%, since all he's given them is money--- they were rich before; they're still rich; no change. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/03/25 at 13:23:22 An embarrassed National Rifle Association says it totally forgot to do the one thing it has been saying for years it is solely there to do. “Our whole reason for lobbying for looser gun laws and amassing huge personal arsenals of weapons these past years was so that we could ensure the security of a free state and protect the people from an oppressive government. And then it actually happened, and the whole rising up against a tyrannical government thing just totally slipped our minds, which is a little embarrassing,” a sheepish NRA CEO Doug Hamlin said. He said the morale around the NRA has been pretty low. “The guys feel pretty silly. We had our well regulated militia stocked up and ready to go, just waiting for the moment when the Government would turn on its own people. "And then the government started cracking down like an authoritarian regime, and we were like ‘guys this is the one we’ve been talking about, let’s go!’. But then something else came up and we forgot to do it. darnit!”. Observers were shocked that the NRA had missed their opportunity to defend their country. “I can’t believe it,” one analyst said. “It’s almost as if they weren’t worried about the government at all. It’s as if they were actually just scared of Black people”. —originally published in The Shovel, an Australian publication |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/03/25 at 13:28:42 “We can’t normalize what this president is doing,” Walsh said. “For the first time in our country’s history we have a sitting American president who is literally refusing to accept the will of the people. Let’s not normalize this. And we have a party, a Republican party, that is allowing him to do it.” Joe Walsh, former GOP Representative |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/03/25 at 13:31:25 "The Republican Party is a dying national political party, and the sooner it can die the better for all of us," Walsh, who now identifies as an independent, told MSNBC on Sunday. "It is literally the party of old white men and old white women.... The sooner we can have something better and new come along, I think the better for the rest of the country," the former representative said. Walsh described the Republican Party as "a cult," emphasizing that he has said this many times before. "If you want to be viable in the Republican Party, you have to get down on your knees every day and kiss Donald Trump's feet," Walsh said, adding, "It's the same way in conservative media." He said his conservative talk radio show was canceled due to his opposition to Trump. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by zevenenergie on 05/03/25 at 14:22:12 You are proving my point exactly: I am making a legally sound argument, and you are completely avoiding it by throwing a flood of moral outrage and isolated incidents at me. You pretend to be having a discussion, but in reality you are using this forum as a mouthpiece for your own right. You call authoritarianism a danger, and rightly so, but what you are doing is another form of intellectual authoritarianism: dismissing every dissenting voice as 'dangerous', 'brainwashed', or 'anti-American'. No room for nuance, no distinction between criticism and complicity, no willingness to listen. You call that 'moral', I call it rhetorical dominance. I did not defend Trump, I explained something about how legislation and presidential powers work. If even that is too much for you, then you are not the one standing up for the democratic rule of law here, but the one undermining it. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by zevenenergie on 05/03/25 at 15:31:52 To answer your question: Give ONE example of how he has improved the lives of anyone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Accords The Abraham Accords were designed and introduced by the United States under the leadership of President Donald Trump, with significant involvement from his son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner, and his special envoy for the Middle East Avi Berkowitz. https://imgur.com/a/SeV17ep He should have won a Nobel Prize for that. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Serowbot on 05/04/25 at 07:02:57 514E5D4E454E454E594C424E2B0 wrote:
Gaza MAGA |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by thumperclone on 05/04/25 at 07:27:33 he had nothing to do with the process, he hosted the signing... |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/04/25 at 08:55:28 Pardon me; I forgot how limited the MAGA position is on nuance--- y"all are the all or nothing, black vs white thinkers, after all. I meant name ONE thing 47 has done to improve the lives of non-rich US CITIZENS. And, Just to point out here, the Abraham Accords were only good for Israel--- Palestine still got screwed. Palestine is the underdog in that situation. Before the 1950s, Israel WAS Palestine, after all. So, you're ok with Israel taking the country away from the Palestinians, in spite of that breaking the UN regulations, to honor a 2000 year old book of mythology? No wonder you are OK with Russia taking part of Ukraine! You still haven't justified the lack of due process that ICE has begun, either. I'm still waiting for something 47 has done that improved the lives of normal US citizens. Really, The GOP has done nothing for US citizens for at least 40 years. The only improvements have come from the Dems, the OTHER conservative party. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Eegore on 05/04/25 at 09:39:28 I'm still waiting for something 47 has done that improved the lives of normal US citizens. What would you accept as evidence? What are your parameters? |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Serowbot on 05/04/25 at 10:13:02 MAGA is all about taking away rights and benefits that ironically are most utilized in red states Go figure :-? |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by zevenenergie on 05/04/25 at 11:15:40 5A717170787167140 wrote:
You asked for one example, I gave you one. Dismissing it outright and shifting the goalposts doesn't invalidate the example, it just shows you're not interested in engaging honestly. You talk about nuance, but you apply none. The Abraham Accords, like any peace deal, weren't perfect, but they did reduce tensions in a historically volatile region. Brushing that off because it doesn't fit your domestic narrative shows more about your ideological tunnel vision than about the merits of the policy itself. As for domestic policy, fine, let's debate that. But not if you're going to demonize every differing view. Like it or not, demonization is not a form of moral authority. If you really want a debate, respond to arguments, not caricatures. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/04/25 at 15:01:09 Bullshit. You knew what I was asking, and you had nothing, so you pulled something out of your a$$. You still have nothing, because there IS nothing. OK, so you cannot give an example. I'll give you an out: Defend 47's nullification of due process, illegal search and seizure, and /or deportation of legal US citizens. You're so into "legally justifiable" you shouldn't have any problem doing that, assuming 47 is not breaking Constitutional or federal law. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Eegore on 05/04/25 at 15:29:18 Bullshit. You knew what I was asking, and you had nothing, so you pulled something out of your a$$. You still have nothing, because there IS nothing. OK, so you cannot give an example. I'll give you an out: Defend 47's nullification of due process, illegal search and seizure, and /or deportation of legal US citizens. You're so into "legally justifiable" you shouldn't have any problem doing that, assuming 47 is not breaking Constitutional or federal law. What would you accept as an example? |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by zevenenergie on 05/05/25 at 00:15:10 Your tone and approach leave little room for meaningful conversation. When every differing opinion is met with insults and bad-faith assumptions, continuing becomes pointless. You’re not looking for dialogue, you’re looking for an echo chamber. I’m not here to waste my energy on that. I’ve already mentioned in previous threads that I no longer want to engage in discussions conducted in that way. I live among people who value honesty and open-hearted living, and who work to nurture that in themselves and others. The contrast here is too stark. Engaging in this kind of hardened debate pulls me in a direction I actively choose to avoid. So this will be my last word in this thread. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by JOG on 05/05/25 at 02:08:04 When every differing opinion is met with insults and bad-faith assumptions, continuing becomes pointless. Thank you for expressing my feelings in a cogent manner. The leftards have said We are not sophisticated enough to even grasp nuance, but it is they who are locked into black and white. Never wrong. Biden was sharp as a tack. The Russian dossier was real. The laptop, Russian disinfo. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by WebsterMark on 05/05/25 at 03:14:55 I agree Zeven. I’m out as well. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/05/25 at 05:57:27 1A0516050E050E0512070905600 wrote:
You, taking offense at my truthful statements, is not my failing. You have provided zero evidence thet 47 has done any good whatsoever. You haven't even attempted to give any real proof of anything you said. You just keep asking "how much proof is enough? ANY would be good. ;D |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by MnSpring on 05/05/25 at 06:38:52 4B606061696076050 wrote:
Your statements are not truthful. They are only propaganda that ‘Full Blown Socialists’, are told to say. I have engaged a couple of times, but no more, cause most all what you say, does not even have ‘fake-proof’. So Again, Go to a SOCIALIST nation, you will be so much happier ! (I am sure they will give you PERMISSION to drive your MC on certain days, certain places, and certain times.) |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Eegore on 05/05/25 at 09:11:46 You just keep asking "how much proof is enough? ANY would be good. What would you accept as "proof"? Can you provide an example? |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by thumperclone on 05/05/25 at 12:12:07 4075667E6562667563070 wrote:
you're describing your posting methods your arrogant attitude modifies your ignorance of reality |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Serowbot on 05/05/25 at 14:09:42 Our latest contributor, Needles, has tipped the scale to somewhat more balanced conversation This tends to make MAGA sensitive I hear no complaints about "UL Socialist, DFI, WOKE, FDSers," as being bad faith or insulting I guess we expect it :-? ....and 6055465E4542465543270 wrote:
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by MnSpring on 05/05/25 at 15:26:33 7660776A72676A71050 wrote:
Could that be that the, "UL Socialist, DFI, WOKE, FDS", are "... ‘Full Blown Socialists’ ..." ????????? |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by WebsterMark on 05/06/25 at 03:09:46 Our latest contributor, Needles, has tipped the scale to somewhat more balanced conversation This tends to make MAGA sensitive. Nonsense. We face an avalanche of hateful MAGA and Trump stuff every single day, anywhere we go. But that guy was being a d!ck so I backed out. And you should know I’m up to engaging with anyone but this guy is just walking past this table, he has no intention of sitting down. He’s just a drive by shooter. If you wanna hook up your horses to his wagon, go for it. But I don’t know what it is with leftist that you grab a hold of the most ridiculous mascots. Like running down to El Salvador and pretending that wife-beating gang member is Nelson Mandela or something. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by thumperclone on 05/06/25 at 06:35:52 [quote author=744641505746516E425148230 link=1746048661/30#37 date=1746526186]Our latest contributor, Needles, has tipped the scale to somewhat more balanced conversation This tends to make MAGA sensitive. Nonsense. We face an avalanche of hateful MAGA and Trump stuff every single day, anywhere we go. But that guy was being a d!ck so I backed out. any time someone challenges the right wings' malignant narcissism you and yours "back out" you can not defend your maga koolaide infused deluded beliefs |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by WebsterMark on 05/06/25 at 08:54:21 796578607D687F6E616263680D0 wrote:
I have engaged you countless times and asked you to be specific, but you stick to your one line comments. Honestly, you’re the one who runs away, Refusing to explain in detail your thoughts on a matter. You have about 15 or 20 words you repeat instead of giving a well thought out an articulated response. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by thumperclone on 05/06/25 at 10:23:00 [quote articulated response. [/quote] nine articulated adjectives describing the maga FELON incompetent arrogant egotistical idiot narcissistic unfit ignorant racist 9 words to describe how I see your idol |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/06/25 at 15:15:47 Canada, Mexico Australia, England, France, and Germany all elected liberals in their elections. In fact, every candidate that either mentions 47, or if 47 mentions them, they LOST. Even the ones running against right wing shoo-ins won. China Airlines has lowered their ticket cost so much that If you buy $1000 worth of Chinese goods, you can fly there, pick up your goods, and fly back with them in your luggage. Individual purchases don't get tariffs. It's not Liberals saying Hegseth abuses women. It's his mother. It's not Liberals comparing 47 to Hitler. It's his Vice President. It's not Liberals calling Musk a liar and rapist. It's his own child. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by WebsterMark on 05/06/25 at 15:29:31 6A766B736E7B6C7D7271707B1E0 wrote:
nine articulated adjectives describing the maga FELON incompetent arrogant egotistical idiot narcissistic unfit ignorant racist 9 words to describe how I see your idol [/quote] One, you proved my point and two, where did you get the idea Trump was my idol? |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Needles on 05/07/25 at 09:25:40 Just to jog some memories, we are currently in a trade war with Canada and Mexico because 47 hates the trade deal that 45 negotiated and signed. |
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Title: Re: 47's USA... Post by Eegore on 05/07/25 at 16:05:13 Just to jog some memories, we are currently in a trade war with Canada and Mexico because 47 hates the trade deal that 45 negotiated and signed. What would you accept as evidence of "proof" for something 47 has done that improved the lives of normal US citizens? |
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