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Message started by Eegore on 07/11/25 at 06:26:44

Title: FEMA response
Post by Eegore on 07/11/25 at 06:26:44

So I've been involved, specifically in TX, with a few FEMA response efforts.

There is, at this time, and this time only with the exemption of all other known times, historically or in the future, but this time and this time in exclusivity in reference to the current flooding event and only the current flooding event with the exclusion of all other known weather events historically or in the future, this weather event and this weather event only, a delay in response allocation.

But FEMA had Red Cross trucks drive around empty... yeah at another time, and that was bad, however I am talking about this time. At this time, my opinion is there is an unnecessary delay by requiring an Upper Administrative approval for resource allocation. This is poor practice, and has proven to be so. My opinion is this is poor practice, and has proven to be so.

USR's can not, in my opinion, operate on a sub 100k budget. Requiring authorization is similar, in my opinion, to stating a Fire Department needs written authorization to respond to fires that might do more than 100k in damage. This is an opinion based off the objective fact Noem has to sign off on any FEMA response with potential allocation of funding over 100k.

USR's are essential to saving human lives. The amount of training they go through, and the professionalism is above average, in my opinion. This opinion is based off decades of building training exercises, which is a lived experience. This means I have Observed these actions and as such exist as part of my Observed Reality. However I can not say all data about the professionalism or training of USR's is accurate or not based off my Observations - instead I refer to the empirical evidence over my very limited personal experiences. This should clarify that my intent is not to imply that personal Observations are not really real - but instead means that my Observed Reality is a poor qualifier for data or reference.

Title: Re: FEMA response
Post by JOG on 07/12/25 at 11:16:57

Not identifying one time, the first time used,what an acronym is, is poor form

Title: Re: FEMA response
Post by MnSpring on 07/12/25 at 11:45:55

4767656D7067020 wrote:

"... There is,
at this time,
and this time only
with the exemption of
all other known times,
historically or in the future,
but this time and this time
in exclusivity
in reference to the current ..."

Excellent. C.Y.A. !

Title: Re: FEMA response
Post by Eegore on 07/12/25 at 15:04:43

Excellent. C.Y.A. !

Considering anytime we bring up a topic and people want to bring up completely unrelated events, I consider it appropriate.

I am talking about this flood. No other floods, since no other floods have happened with the current restrictions on implementation of response teams.

This opinion is based off of using this forum which is a lived experience. This means I have Observed these actions and as such exist as part of my Observed Reality. However I can not say all data about the actions on all forums on the planet are accurate or not based off my Observations - instead I refer to the empirical evidence over my very limited personal experiences. This should clarify that my intent is not to imply that personal Observations are not really real - but instead means that my Observed Reality is a poor qualifier for data or reference.

Title: Re: FEMA response
Post by Eegore on 07/12/25 at 15:07:08

Not identifying one time, the first time used,what an acronym is, is poor form

Urban Search and Rescue. They are, by policy now, supposed to sit and watch until Noem approves, in writing, their implementation. It's highly improbable that a USR can operate sub-100k today.

This opinion is based off of utilizing a multitude of budget allocations for natural disasters, and man-made demolitions, which is a lived experience. This means I have Observed these actions and as such exist as part of my Observed Reality. However I can not say all data about the budget of all FEMA USR's on the planet are accurate or not based off my Observations - instead I refer to the empirical evidence over my very limited personal experiences. This should clarify that my intent is not to imply that personal Observations are not really real - but instead means that my Observed Reality is a poor qualifier for data or reference.

Title: Re: FEMA response
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/25 at 06:45:01

But FEMA had Red Cross trucks drive around empty... yeah at another time, and that was bad, however I am talking about this time. At this time, my opinion is there is an unnecessary delay by requiring an Upper Administrative approval for resource allocation. This is poor practice, and has proven to be so. My opinion is this is poor practice, and has proven to be so.

USR's can not, in my opinion, operate on a sub 100k budget. Requiring authorization is similar, in my opinion, to stating a Fire Department needs written authorization to respond to fires that might do more than 100k in damage. This is an opinion based off the objective fact Noem has to sign off on any FEMA response with potential allocation of funding over 100k.

Assuming what you say is true, given the high profile nature and tragedy of this event, how could there be a delay? Wouldn’t this have been brought before her immediately and/or wouldn’t she or her key people have asked about responding immediately?

If the people below her held up authorization because they were following new guidelines designed to prevent waste, that’s awful. We have that going on to a fraction of a degree where I work. As we centralized more and more, local managers have less autonomy over their operations and their ability to respond to a crisis is micromanaged from above.

I understand the need for oversight as DOGE has demonstrated the hazards of what happens when bureaucrats have an unlimited supply of tax money, but given these circumstances, someone should have stepped up and gotten this done.

Title: Re: FEMA response
Post by Eegore on 07/13/25 at 08:18:00

Assuming what you say is true, given the high profile nature and tragedy of this event, how could there be a delay? Wouldn’t this have been brought before her immediately and/or wouldn’t she or her key people have asked about responding immediately?

I imagine they move at the speed of government. The real problem is the lack of verbal permission, and alternate permissions.

I am not saying that already approved and active teams can't physically act without permissions, I am talking about contracted responders. If it were me I would pro-bono the immediate response then attempt to collect after, however I am lucky enough that I could absorb the cost if needed.

This reduces preparation and creates more response-based teams. This opinion is based off more than a decade of working with FEMA, which is a lived experience. This means I have Observed these actions and as such exist as part of my Observed Reality. However I can not say all data about working with FEMA is accurate or not based off my Observations - instead I refer to the empirical evidence over my very limited personal experiences. This should clarify that my intent is not to imply that personal Observations are not really real - but instead means that my Observed Reality is a poor qualifier for data or reference.

Title: Re: FEMA response
Post by Needles on 07/13/25 at 09:35:17

Mexican relief workers seemed to get there pretty quickly. :)