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Message started by Eegore on 07/17/25 at 18:47:34

Title: Presolar grains
Post by Eegore on 07/17/25 at 18:47:34

Presolar grains are these tiny grains, solid objects that pre-date the Sun in our solar system. I had the opportunity to go view them and run some spectrometry analysis.

The whole idea that we (we being all known humans) have the capacity to understand. or at least, even if incorrectly, assess and articulate this level of understanding is mind boggling to me at times.

We can extract and examine stardust that predates our very existence.

https://presolar.physics.wustl.edu/presolar-grain-database/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presolar_grains

This means I have Observed these pre-solar grains and as such exist as part of my Observed Reality.

However I can not say all data about pre-solar grains is accurate or not based off my Observations - instead I refer to the empirical evidence over my very limited personal experiences. This should clarify that my intent is not to imply that personal Observations are not really real - but instead means that my Observed Reality is a poor qualifier for data or reference.

Title: Re: Presolar grains
Post by JOG on 07/18/25 at 15:07:14

but instead means that my Observed Reality is a poor qualifier for data or reference.
In This Instance,, no experience, frame of reference,, sure.
But watching the World? Watching the lies? Figuring out what it looks like When they are lying?
Grow up.

Title: Re: Presolar grains
Post by zevenenergie on 07/19/25 at 05:21:50

What is an opinion worth when you consider how big the universe is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66hSXdjNZ_I&list=PLH-n8j7OJvIKg0uubtPhIMp9iL1WVLdD6&index=2

Title: Re: Presolar grains
Post by Eegore on 07/20/25 at 10:36:21

In This Instance,, no experience, frame of reference,, sure.
But watching the World? Watching the lies? Figuring out what it looks like When they are lying?
Grow up.

I don't think my personal Observations are a qualifier for data or reference. Just because I Observe lies doesn't mean presented data is full of lies. It makes sense to be skeptical based off past experience - but not decide facts without even looking. You proved this by stating evidence I provided was "Lies" - your words, "Lies" and then provided the exact same documents, multiple times, as your own reference.

You Observed them as "Lies" when I presented the data, then Observed it as truth when you used the exact same data. That's literal proof that Observed Reality is a poor qualifier for data or reference.