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Title: Jobs are down Post by Serowbot on 08/01/25 at 14:18:14 What to do, what to do? Fire the jobs lady, put in a lackey that will cook the books to Trump's satisfaction Much the equivalent of using a sharpy to redirect the direction of a hurricane .. but who would such a thing? http://https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/09/04/22/18078896-0-image-a-9_1567631234185.jpg |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by thumperclone on 08/01/25 at 15:15:00 his confabulation is getting worse |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/02/25 at 08:23:45 Even the "gains" in jobs he claims are due to him having to rehire the people he illegally fired in the first place. >:( |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by thumperclone on 08/02/25 at 09:54:23 he doesn't like it when people and facts don't bend to his will good thing he doesn't have a guillotine! |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/02/25 at 11:02:52 Obviously we can't trust the job numbers unless Trump says we can. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/03/25 at 15:50:36 Yes, the recent job numbers revisions were significantly larger than typical. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) and various reports, the revisions for May and June 2025 were notably substantial: • May 2025: Initially reported as +144,000 jobs, revised down to +19,000, a reduction of 125,000 jobs. • June 2025: Initially reported as +147,000, revised down to +14,000, a reduction of 133,000 jobs. • Combined: A total downward revision of 258,000 jobs for these two months, which the BLS described as “larger than normal.” Additionally, an earlier revision for the period from April 2023 to March 2024 reduced job growth estimates by 818,000, bringing the monthly average from 242,000 to 173,500 jobs. This was the largest annual benchmark revision since 2009, when employment was revised down by 902,000. Over the previous decade, annual revisions averaged around ±173,000 jobs, making the 818,000 adjustment about five times the typical magnitude. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by JOG on 08/03/25 at 20:20:41 Oopsies.. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/03/25 at 21:52:25 I believe some of the hire/fire/re-hire/fire has something to do with it. The DoJ had thousands "resign" because they had an email response requirement that was due by midnight on a Monday and tons of DoJ employees work 10 hour days with Mondays off. Sat 7:13AM to Mon 11:59AM. Was that in a report? I don't know. Should it be? No, not the actual jobs report, but it should be documented since all those accounts had to resubmit their health plan elections. There are so many unintended consequences with these DOGE shenanigans. I know a human that is retiring after 30 years of Federal service in October, and she is fighting to keep her retirement health plan because they require 5 years of "consecutive" coverage to qualify. On paper she did not have continual coverage because her health plan lapsed when she "resigned" by being off work the week of the email requirement. That's an incredible degree of personal cost in the future that is of no fault of her own if it is not resolved. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by JOG on 08/03/25 at 23:49:02 Government has been in the business of screwing their employees for decades. I worked with guy whose wife had 19 years in with the Texas Unemployment Office. She went home on Friday and when she went to work Monday the stationery had a different heading, the building, a new sign, it was a Different facility, in the same building with the same operational goals. She lost her pension. Texas,,where everything is Bigger, includin the screwins.. I wanna say that was around 31ish years ago. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/04/25 at 04:48:15 18383A322F385D0 wrote:
People cheat. People steal. People manipulate data for their own reasons. Could this have been done due to honest consequences of employees shifting around? Sure. Was it? I have no way to know for sure right now so I have to make an educated guess. But Trump’s 40,000 foot view of things is more often right than wrong. His ability to articulate details suck, but his pattern recognition is exceptional. I say it’s more likely this was intentional manipulation to make up look bad. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/04/25 at 04:51:19 And regarding the negative consequences of DOGE, let me just say the consequences of the system we developed by growing a monstrosity known as the government bureaucracy aren’t discussed enough. People sitting in an office with nothing to do, harmed a countless number of lives. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/04/25 at 05:46:03 4A7F6C746F686C7F690D0 wrote:
And, yet, you still back the capitalists that did that. Unbelievable. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by MnSpring on 08/04/25 at 07:13:05 4E6565646C6573000 wrote:
A-Yep ! Their are Lying, Cheating, Stealing, Pocket stuffing, PEOPLE, in ALL political parties. Just that the, ' SOCIALISTS ', have the most ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by JOG on 08/04/25 at 07:21:44 416A6A6B636A7C0F0 wrote:
And, yet, you still back the capitalists that did that. Unbelievable. [/quote] And you want More government. You understand she worked for The STATE. And you commies LOVE state power. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by thumperclone on 08/04/25 at 07:34:57 states' rights are part of our constitution how many times has Texass wanted to leave the union? |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by JOG on 08/04/25 at 07:44:28 DaFuq's that got to do with anything? |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/04/25 at 08:04:21 416A6A6B636A7C0F0 wrote:
And, yet, you still back the capitalists that did that. Unbelievable. [/quote] Capitalism allows somebody as clueless as you, the ability to type your thoughts out freely and have them transmitted instantly across the world. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/04/25 at 08:22:47 SCIENCE did that; not capitalism. In fact, the capitalists are still pissed that I don't have to pay them more for internet access. Capitalists are "conservatives". Conservatives don't invent a d@mned thing; never have. The stock market just tanked due to the crappy job "growth", BTW. https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-s-p-500-and-nasdaq-point-lower-as-fresh-tariffs-hit-jobs-data-looms |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by MnSpring on 08/04/25 at 08:54:42 2C0707060E0711620 wrote:
Really, so, 'SCIENCE' "allows somebody as clueless as you" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/04/25 at 09:22:15 0A212120282137440 wrote:
Nonsense. Science without capitalism is either academic, a good idea that goes nowhere, or exploited by the very few privileged at the top. And the stock market did not “tank”. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/04/25 at 16:05:04 If you're rich, maybe you think dropping 500+ points overnight is ok, since it's only a fraction of your hoarded wealth. CAPITALISTS are who has been exploiting their workers for decades, not the government. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/05/25 at 03:36:51 I am not being exploited. It’s the opposite. I have exploited the capitalist system to live a prosperous life that’s unimaginable in many areas of the world. So have you. In fact, everybody who regularly participates on this forum has exploited the capitalist system. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by JOG on 08/05/25 at 05:31:58 Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system. Check the history books. But,if facts mattered all you leftards would have realized Gun Control is a failed experiment. The data are available, hell, Raised Up,in your FACE unavoidable,, yet, you cling to what is proven to get more people killed than Constitutional Carry. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by MnSpring on 08/05/25 at 06:10:10 567D7D7C747D6B180 wrote:
Sure sounds like ENVY !!!!!!!! Some people have a lot of money, some do not, some just enough. And they never complain. The only ones pissing and moaning, are the SOCIALISTS that do not want to WORK. They want EVERYTHING, for FREE ! And of course the LAZY that are to LAZY to work because they have found out, if they say the right things, some people will GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT !!!! Welfare etc, programs are meant to HELP a person down on their resources. It is NOT TO BE A WAY OF LIFE !!!!!! Which it has now become. (BECAUSE of the SOCIALISTS !) |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by JOG on 08/05/25 at 07:25:52 Search democrat billionaires vs republican Requires a bit of reading between the lines, nuanced thinking, It's just a few sentences.. Let's see if people come to the right conclusion . |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/06/25 at 07:50:13 Socialists are not afraid of work. They just don't want to be exploited for slave wages. The ones at the top are simply taking too much--- why is that so hard for MAGATs to understand? Y'all are willing to give up everything the country stands for in order to keep from having to change with the times. MAGATs are NOT real Americans. They are all traitors, actively working against the Constitution. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by MnSpring on 08/06/25 at 10:04:55 674C4C4D454C5A290 wrote:
Please explain why the, UL, DFI, FDS, WOKE SOCIALISTS, (Especially why the "FULL BLOWN SOCIALISTS"). Are against many parts of the Constitution ????????? Especially the 1st, and the 2nd. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by thumperclone on 08/06/25 at 14:33:37 mn sprung your posts highlight the fact you know nothing about socialism |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by MnSpring on 08/06/25 at 15:56:45 574B564E534651404F4C4D46230 wrote:
Then explain, why Socialism, Tells someone what to do, When to do it, Where to do it, How to do it ? Please explain why Socialism; Does NOT allow someone to defend themselves. Does NOT allow someone to speak/publish/etc, anything they want to. Does NOT allow someone to make up their own mind. Says It is BAD to be part of a different political party. Says A Male Human can birth a Human Baby. Says someone who has garnered great wealth is a bad person, unless they give it away. Explain why, when a Socialist participates in a RIOT, they call it a, 'Protest'. Explain why, when a Socialist, does not, participate in a Protest, they call it a, RIOT. And on and on and On. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Serowbot on 08/06/25 at 16:04:39 52714C6F6D7671781F0 wrote:
Because none of that is true |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/06/25 at 16:38:35 Then explain, why Socialism, Tells someone what to do, When to do it, Where to do it, How to do it ? Please explain why Socialism; Does NOT allow someone to defend themselves. Does NOT allow someone to speak/publish/etc, anything they want to. Does NOT allow someone to make up their own mind. Says It is BAD to be part of a different political party. Says A Male Human can birth a Human Baby. Says someone who has garnered great wealth is a bad person, unless they give it away. Explain why, when a Socialist participates in a RIOT, they call it a, 'Protest'. Explain why, when a Socialist, does not, participate in a Protest, they call it a, RIOT. And on and on and On. It doesn't. All that is your opinion. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by MnSpring on 08/06/25 at 18:59:51 1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:
Yea, my opinion, based on what has HAPPENED !!!! |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/06/25 at 19:13:02 Yea, my opinion, based on what has HAPPENED !!!! I don't think Socialism is a requirement for any of that to happen. Communism has more procedural similarities, in my opinion. This is an opinion. For instance, one can defend themselves in Socialist economies. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by JOG on 08/06/25 at 19:13:22 EauxMuGawwd! EauxNeaux !! Not the dreaded Observed Reality!!! REEEEEE! |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/06/25 at 19:58:48 EauxMuGawwd! EauxNeaux !! Not the dreaded Observed Reality!!! REEEEEE! So when people Observe climate change by looking at hurricane footage, is their Observed Reality accurate? They can Observe climate disasters. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by JOG on 08/06/25 at 21:22:12 So? Have they studied the history of earth's climate? Do they know about the numerous ice ages? How they explain the marine fossils in mountains? They know FukkALL. The world has been in a state of constant change. And that has nothing to do with the political climate. You can't STAND the fact that OBSERVATION is THE number One step in making decisions and coming to Intelligent conclusions. Observation is THE number ONE step in solving problems. , |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/07/25 at 04:22:54 5279797870796F1C0 wrote:
How is Jeff Bezos taking too much? How does his business exploit me? “Exploit” contains an element in its meaning of against my will. So how is his business exploiting me against my will? How does his CREATION of wealth significantly harm me and keep me from living or fulfilling the life I want? |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by thumperclone on 08/07/25 at 04:25:46 Observation is THE number ONE step in solving problems. ,[/quote] if the observer is not influenced by preconceived notions or bias |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/07/25 at 06:52:54 160A170F120710010E0D0C07620 wrote:
if the observer is not influenced by preconceived notions or bias [/quote] Are you saying my preconceived notions and bias or position in life, prevents me from observing reality and instead I see a false reality due to the filters I’ve built around my vision? |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by thumperclone on 08/07/25 at 07:33:52 perception and reality do not always coincide... |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/07/25 at 08:14:47 4559445C415443525D5E5F54310 wrote:
Of course. But what are you saying? My perception is not reality, but your perception is reality? |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by MnSpring on 08/07/25 at 09:46:19 "... My perception is not reality, but your perception is reality? " That is the, 'reality', that certain people take. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by thumperclone on 08/07/25 at 11:04:57 But what are you saying? My perception is not reality, but your perception is reality?[/quote] your words not mine if they fit so be it.. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by WebsterMark on 08/07/25 at 13:25:39 I thought for just a minute there, we were going to have a serious exchange but it was not to be. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/07/25 at 13:40:22 When SHS (Huckleberry Sanders) became governor of Arkansas, she immediately cut education funding by 80%. A little later, she increased education funding by 20% of what was left, claiming the largest percentage of education funding increase in the state's history. Arkansas' education still had only 24% of what it started with... As my dad used to say, "If you think that's ok, you're either dumb as hell, or you think I am." 47 uses the same math to claim his job figures. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by thumperclone on 08/07/25 at 14:18:21 152720313627300F233029420 wrote:
are you capable? |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/07/25 at 17:06:38 So? Have they studied the history of earth's climate? Do they know about the numerous ice ages? How they explain the marine fossils in mountains? They know FukkALL. The world has been in a state of constant change. And that has nothing to do with the political climate. You can't STAND the fact that OBSERVATION is THE number One step in making decisions and coming to Intelligent conclusions. All one has to do is not Observe something, and it is no longer part of their Reality. Climate alarmists won't Observe "the history of earth's climate" and you will not Observe cardiac deaths in children before 2020. So as long as they do not Observe it, all data claiming climate change is not man made is no longer matching their Observed Reality. So obviously it is wrong. Right? Also all data showing there are no indications that significantly more kids died in 2021 than the decade before is wrong because you Observed a few kids die on "live tv". Right? Your Observations will decide the if the national mortality rate of kids is accurate or not. You refuse to Observe I am saying Observed reality is a poor qualifier for data or reference. People Observe different things. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by MnSpring on 08/07/25 at 18:52:50 0E2E2C24392E4B0 wrote:
It not that it, has/not, been observed. It is simply repeating LIES, like the, 'Full Blown Socialist', that posts here. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/07/25 at 18:55:20 It not that it, has/not, been observed. It is simply repeating LIES, like the, 'Full Blown Socialist', that posts here. That's definitely part of it. It makes it easier when one refuses to Observe anything that is counter to the lies they want to repeat. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/08/25 at 05:50:30 The "full blown socialist" is not lying. The bias from your capitalism dominated education, what there is of it, are lies. You're simply refusing to take the best attributes of both systems in favor of the worst attributes of capitalism. You're just wrong. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/08/25 at 07:40:12 The "full blown socialist" is not lying. Except for the lies. Like the rancher being a "Corporation" or that the US Senate passes impeachment hearings to a "Federal Court" or that the rancher "tied things up" in court by filing one appeal, or that all watershed is in the CWA, or the Mexican President made a specific speech/response, or that your family members in TN have zero access to healthcare of "ANY KIND". |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/08/25 at 07:45:53 Prove it or you're the one lying. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/08/25 at 09:19:13 Prove it or you're the one lying. Ok, present your proof as well. Use your own standards - provide proof there needs to be a "WARRANT" for LEO to wear masks. I already offered proof when I provided references. You claim the literal US Constitution from the Congress.gov website is a "fake MAGA website" Proof of Treason clause as referenced: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artIII-S3-C1-1/ALDE_00013524/ https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artIII-S3-C1-1/ALDE_00013524/ https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S4-4-9/ALDE_00000035/ Your provided references = 0 Proof the EPA and all courts involved did not recognize Andrew Johnson as a "Corporation" or affiliate of any kind of business. https://pacificlegal.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/johnson-v-environmental-protection-agency/Andy-Johnson-Complaint-8-27-15.pdf https://yosemite.epa.gov/oa/rhc/epaadmin.nsf/filings/6c6ec0f783d2b53985257c7c00214564/$file/cwa%2008%202014%200012%20ao.pdf Proof of EPA water data assessments indicating Blacks Fork is not navigable water as required in the CWA: https://waterdata.usgs.gov/monitoring-location/USGS-09217900/#dataTypeId=continu Proof that not all watershed is applicable to the CWA: https://www.epa.gov/laws-regulations/summary-clean-water-act Proof of activities exempt stock ponds: https://www.epa.gov/cwa-404/exemptions-permit-requirements-under-cwa-section-404 Your provided proof = nothing. Proof, using your own reference, that the statement from Claudia Sheinbaum is false: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/12/facebook-posts/no-mexican-president-claudia-sheinbaum-didnt-say-t/ Your proof that she did = nothing. Proof humans in TN have mandatory access to emergency healthcare: https://www.hcadam.com/api/public/content/7db8935ad36346afad4a32e332121772?v=a7141523 https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act https://www.hipaajournal.com/hhs-oig-settles-alleged-emtala-violations-tn-mo/ Your proof that over 50 humans in your family have "no access to healthcare of ANY kind." = 0 Based off your own statements, you should present your proof or you are lying. Just like you said you would "in passing" by the way. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by JOG on 08/08/25 at 17:15:51 6D4D4F475A4D280 wrote:
It makes it easier when one refuses to Observe anything that is counter to the lies they want to repeat.[/quote] Load of FUKKIN SCHITT. I've been WRONG. Accepted it. Changed position to Be correct. Unlike these unreachable leftards. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/09/25 at 06:16:16 You're wrong NOW. Accept it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/09/25 at 08:28:15 You're wrong NOW. Accept it. I'd like to see some proof or you are lying. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/10/25 at 07:37:08 Real proof has no meaning for conservatives. You'll just discount the evidence, or attack the source, or the person revealing it to you. MAGATs are limited in that way... |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Eegore on 08/10/25 at 12:28:25 Real proof has no meaning for conservatives. You'll just discount the evidence, or attack the source, or the person revealing it to you. MAGATs are limited in that way... Sure. I never said I supported Trump, you are just assigning that label to anyone that disagrees with you. It's also an amateur attempt of justifying why you won't, or can't in this case, adhere to your own standards. |
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Title: Re: Jobs are down Post by Needles on 08/11/25 at 13:11:21 Actions speak louder than words. Your posts show that you, as a well-to-do capitalist supporter, are a 47 kisser of backside. ;) |
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