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Title: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/12/25 at 08:22:16 Rather clear, if the Palestinians kicked out HAMAS. They would still have cars and houses. Just some things gathered from the WEB. "... murdered hostages, not just deceased hostages ..." "... Bodies were not lost. They just don't want Israel to perform autopsies to show how they were murdered ..." "... Do not release one prisoner until all hostages are returned ..." "... Hamas will not stick to the agreement ..." "... 1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state. 2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE ..." |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/12/25 at 09:10:37 21. Total destruction of Gaza territory, with the aim of expelling the Palestinians and stealing the territory. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/12/25 at 12:09:36 22. Total destruction of Gaza territory, since the only acceptable outcome is the death of every Jew on the planet. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/12/25 at 15:34:11 LooseSpring, you left out ", neither was there an Israelie state" on nearly every one of your points. You can't claim that the era of the 12 tribes was a kingdom, since they were supposedly "wandering in the wilderness, having been kicked out of Egypt. (The "Exodus" was a heavily spun LIE by the authors of the Old Testament. Ask ANY secular historian.) As for the more recent points, the "Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem" as the name shows, was simply the part of the wilderness claimed by the Crusaders--- who were Christian, not Jewish. The only basic claim to legitimacy Israel has, historically, is the same as occupation and colonization of native lands the world over by European countries, who imposed their own boundaries for the Middle East, Africa, and the Americas. So, the Gaza conflict mirrors the English takeover of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the US, the Spanish and Portuguese takeover of the rest of Africa, etc. What would be the world's view of the US if we started bombing Native reservations? Also, Jews, the Rom, the Sherpas, the Sami, and others never had their own countries before, barring interference from European and US military forces, in the case of Israel. It is unrealistic to expect Israel to move. It is also unrealistic to expect the Palestinians to give up the only sliver of their former homes left to them. The Jews want to bar Gaza from becoming a country, because then they would have to face their war crimes. I don't think Hamas are reasonable, but neither is the Israelie government. The Israelie government is showing the possibly understandable paranoia that Native Americans would probably show if the US dissolved all the reservations and gave Texas to the Natives, as a true "soverign" nation. Much of what Israel does is posturing--- they want the world to see their over-the-top military actions as a warning. Still, it does not excuse genocide. Israel is there now, but can they stand alone? If the answer is 'no', then are they a legitimate country? If the answer is 'yes', then why does the US have to support them? Non Religon based answers only. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/13/25 at 06:31:21 173C3C3D353C2A590 wrote:
Why does the US have to support Ukraine to the tune of $183. billion + Could it be the fact Biden was paying for silence, about Hunters and his extortion. (with money from HARD working Citizens of the US, NOT money from the GIMME, GIMME, GIMME people) |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by thumperclone on 10/13/25 at 08:13:26 Could it be the fact Biden was paying for silence, about Hunters and his extortion. proven FALSE |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/13/25 at 15:19:15 BrokenSpring: NO, it couldn't be. Facts don't care what you mistakenly believe. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/13/25 at 15:46:37 Just like the, "Lap-top" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/13/25 at 16:16:05 Rice said. "And that means, change the lessons that you teach your kids about the state of Israel. Stop putting up maps that (say) the state of Israel doesn't exist. Don't create another generation of Palestinians who believe that somehow the resistance is the way to peace and security." |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by thumperclone on 10/14/25 at 05:01:49 now they are killing each other |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/14/25 at 05:23:12 7D5E634042595E57300 wrote:
Laptop? You mean the MAGAT hallucination that involved Hunter Biden and Ukraine? Bless yer heart! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/14/25 at 11:11:32 Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party He started eliminating: gay men, bisexual men, Jehovah’s Witnesses, people with disabilities, Poles, Roma and other people, labeled as “Gypsies”. Then turned to Jews. The nomadic tribe called Palestine people. ALLOWED/ Encouraged, HAMAS to tell them what to do. In 20/30 years +/-, another group, like Hamas, will work again to kill all Jews. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/15/25 at 05:00:13 And that's very understandable, because Jews have a very nasty trait, and that is that they think they are the promised people and that they have a right to the promised land. It's deeply ingrained in their culture. It makes them unsympathetic. And you're not allowed to criticize Jews because that's antisemitism. In any case, throughout history, you see that they have a hard time making friends. America is run by wealthy Jews, so that doesn't count, in my opinion. And here we see a deeply traumatized people with a horrific secret service and an overdeveloped army on a piece of land that has been stolen. And of course, in conflict with all its neighbors. Hamas is a pain in the ass that the Jews themselves have created. And a pain in your ass doesn't go away by poking it with a stick. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/25 at 06:07:29 3D2231222922292235202E22470 wrote:
Wow….you can’t be the same person that writes some of your other posts. The contrast is striking. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/15/25 at 06:51:48 "Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party" Hitler also said his biggest mistake was including "socialist" in the party name, since they were, of course, a fascist group instead. MAGATs, are y'all eating urinal cakes because "cake" is in the name? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/15/25 at 08:10:24 German Text: Jeder Schaffende gehört in die D.A.F. "Ich bin Sozialist, weil es mir unverständlich erscheint, eine Maschine mit Sorgfalt zu pflegen und zu behandeln, aber den edelsten Vertreter der Arbeit, den Menschen selbst, verkommen zu lassen." - Adolf Hitler English Translation: Every working individual belongs to the D.A.F. "I am a socialist because it seems incomprehensible/self-evident to me to (carefully) maintain and treat a machine (with care), yet to let the noblest representative of labor, the human being themselves, deteriorate/decay." - Adolf Hitler “I have learned a great deal from Marxism” … “as I do not hesitate to admit” [My task is to] “convert the German volk (people) to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists” “If we are socialists, then we must definitely be anti-semites – and the opposite, in that case, is Materialism and Mammonism, which we seek to oppose.” “How, as a socialist, can you not be an anti-semite?” . We must “find and travel the road from individualism to socialism without revolution”. “Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.” “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions” “What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish we shall be in a position to achieve.” "...Does it really get any more clear than this? Hitler stated plainly that he was an enemy of capitalism..." "... Planks from the National Socialist Party’s platform ... Hitler did endorse them. ... They show the intent of Hitler’s wealth redistribution schemes, as well as his desire for central planning ..." |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by thumperclone on 10/15/25 at 08:19:38 tRumps doctrine to a T |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by WebsterMark on 10/15/25 at 08:47:54 273B263E233621303F3C3D36530 wrote:
1) Thumper has no idea what he’s talking about. Trump blah, blah,blah is the limit of his capabilities. 2) Needles made up crap again? Shocking. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/15/25 at 15:16:44 I don't "make crap up". Hitler was NOT a socialist, unless you're depending on the CHINESE saying: "Anything taken to its extremes becomes its opposite." It doesn't surprise me, though, that the people who support the person with the most officially documented LIES in history, and often SHOWS, beyond doubt, that he has no idea what the word salad he's spouting MEANS, have no idea how to analyze anything objectively. https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/hitler-nazi-form-of-socialism-1932/ https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/hitler-socialist-political-ideology-9b7548 https://explaininghistory.org/2025/02/28/addressing-claims-that-hitler-was-a-socialist/ https://www.historyandheadlines.com/were-the-nazis-actually-socialists/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/05/right-needs-stop-falsely-claiming-that-nazis-were-socialists/ Web, I'll send you a box of urinal cakes.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/15/25 at 18:10:39 "...We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. ..." |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/15/25 at 18:14:16 557E7E7F777E681B0 wrote:
LOLOLOLOLLOLLOPLOLOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/15/25 at 19:53:12 I don't "make crap up". You do that more than anyone else here. I will say you do it less now than you were before, but you do appear to just type things that you think are true then do a poor job of providing supporting evidence. Thus the insults instead of substance in a lot of your posts. The primary difference is while some members link to internet information they think is true, and even if someone else reads it for them and tries to tell them what it says they stick to whatever the lying headline said. You on the other hand just say things that aren't true. Maybe you think they are true, or maybe you just hope nobody notices. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by thumperclone on 10/15/25 at 19:58:16 457770616677605F736079120 wrote:
1) Thumper has no idea what he’s talking about. Trump blah, blah,blah is the limit of his capabilities. 2) Needles made up crap again? Shocking.[/quote] you are blinded by the gold paint in the oval office and a spray on tan |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/15/25 at 20:00:34 you are blinded by the gold paint in the oval office Since Trump is Hitler I imagine its actual gold from the melted false teeth of Jews. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/16/25 at 02:40:44 4A787F6E69786F507C6F761D0 wrote:
Wow….you can’t be the same person that writes some of your other posts. The contrast is striking. [/quote] I find it a bit strange that Israel razed Gaza to the ground and committed many serious war crimes, and that you consider that acceptable. And when I speak about the Jewish mindset, you find it shocking. I also see the crimes of the Palestinians, but Israel's reaction is completely out of proportion. We are talking about genocidal and war crimes here. And those were indeed concealed as much as possible. I understand that the matter is sensitive, but I also think you are stuck in a mindset, and I'd like to shake that up. What's happening in Gaza triggers me, so I don't claim to be completely neutral, but I do want to be able to think and speak freely. Common sense these days is nothing more than thinking according to the current prevailing opinion. While the true meaning of common sense is that all senses are seen by the same seer (consciousness). And if you read my contributions carefully, you might see that I'm trying to point something out. And that's something I'm certainly not ashamed of, nor do I need to be ashamed of. Spirituality and awakening isn't about flowers in your hair and sitting in a meadow. It's practical and confrontational; it's not for the weak among us. Jesus didn't hang on the cross because he was such a wimp. His words were very threatening to the established order. So I also want to speak from my insights, because I also have that source within me. And my human side is there too I've been following the situation with the Palestinians and Israel for 42 years and am very well informed. The Netherlands has always had a friendly relationship with Israel, and that's why the discussion about the Palestinian cause in the Netherlands has always been lively. We've heard many details in our news here over the years. And journalists have reported extensively on events there at a time when the news was still reasonably reliable. And I know many Jews and am well acquainted with their way of thinking and acting. And it's also clear that you see it very differently. But if it's about war crimes and genocide and animalistic reactions, and you justify that, then you're completely wrong in my opinion, Web. You need to do some soul-searching. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/16/25 at 06:45:40 514E5D4E454E454E594C424E2B0 wrote:
So you know about "...the several hundreds of Palestinian suicide attacks carried out by Palestinian individuals ..." "... against Israeli civilian targets...." Indiscriminate attacks on civilians Keep 'poking' the Bear, then be surprised, and complain, the Bear bit you! |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/16/25 at 06:50:31 Oh, sure, I make things up! That comes from supporters of a man who is arguably the most documented LIAR in human history. You accuse me of making sh*t up because I point out things that don't jive in your dictatorial fantasy bubble world. MAGATs don't deal with the real. They'd rather wallow in the mud with the other pigs than elevate themselves. Do y'all (not the religious morons.) know about evolution? The biggest and toughest don't always survive; it's the most adaptable that come out on top. MAGATs, and conservatives in general, do NOT adapt. They stay cemented in their fantasies. They are literally declaring themselves candidates for the Darwin award. You're a dying breed. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/16/25 at 08:36:21 Oh, sure, I make things up! That comes from supporters of a man who is arguably the most documented LIAR in human history. You accuse me of making sh*t up because I point out things that don't jive in your dictatorial fantasy bubble world. You do bring up good points. You also lie. You also literally said you would lie on here. MAGATs don't deal with the real. They'd rather wallow in the mud with the other pigs than elevate themselves. When you say you lie because Trump lies more than you, exactly how elevating is that in your mind? I think you got caught in multiple lies and used the classic middle-school defense of "he lied more!" as if anyone here is going to think you lie on purpose to prove a point. The fact you are now claiming you do not make sh!t up, after justifying why you literally make sh!t up, makes your - I lie because other people lie - justification invalid. Again, you are doing it less, not sure why but maybe because it is getting you nowhere. It's pretty obvious when you just spout out nonsense that is not true. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/16/25 at 13:01:10 "... lie on purpose to prove a point ..." Is a STANDARD method the DFI, FDS, WOKE, Socialists use. 'CONVINCE' people, any way you can, to follow the. 'DARK" side. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/16/25 at 13:53:15 You're saying that you never lie? Because anyone who says that IS a liar, and THAT is a lie. I'm just adult enough to recognize that fact, and MAGATs, who deny, deny, deny, to the point of absurdity, claim they don't lie while following a liar down a rabbit hole that will either lead to the destruction of the US, or themselves. I know which one I want to win. You MAGATs are ALL traitors, no matter what spin Eyore puts on it, no matter what FOG or MnSprung hallucinates. The MAGAT claim is that you're so smart, the rest of us should just listen in awe of your intelligence. The reality is you are so stupid you can't imagine that you were duped and used, and now your egos won't let you admit it. Once you're defeated, many of YOU will be in jail. Maybe not YOU, personally; y'all really aren't that important... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/16/25 at 14:26:03 You're saying that you never lie? Nobody said that. You MAGATs are ALL traitors, no matter what spin Eyore puts on it, no matter what FOG or MnSprung hallucinates. Making up laws that do not exist is a weak argument. That's what you do - you just say things and hope they are correct. If you proposed things that were real maybe you would get somewhere. You simply can not be taken seriously as long as you maintian that obviously false information is true. Why can't one single lawyer pin down any method for charging Trump with treason? The entire Democratic party didn't see the social media post you did? A social media post is the source you are using as the basis for your argument after all - a standard you will not accpet from others by the way. I find it hard to believe not one anti-Trump organization, of which there are tons, can find a way to charge Trump with treason. They will shut the Government down, but won't use Needles information, of which millions shared, to charge treason? We are supposed to accept that Needles is correct and literally all other lawyers are wrong. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/16/25 at 14:48:09 I'm not a lawyer. YOU claim to be. Eyore, you're lying. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/16/25 at 16:55:15 I'm not a lawyer. YOU claim to be. Eyore, you're lying. I never once claimed to be a lawyer. I just use actual US laws that exist in reality, and not the made-up ones you fabricated out of thin air. You literally made up laws that do not exist - nobody needs to be a lawyer to figure that out. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/17/25 at 04:01:38 I regularly visit a site with a lot of left-leaning people, and they tell each other lies, sometimes very sophisticated ones. It's quite worrying when you see how this is structured. They applaud each other for it and agree with each other. In this way, they inflame each other, keep each other emotional, and have started to believe in their lies. And of course, they also want to be taken seriously outside their own sene. But they can't engage in a real discussion because the lies are easily visible to an outsider. So, subconsciously, they avoid a real discussion. When they do engage in a real discussion, for example, with Charlie Kirk, the lies become visible through exposure. I think exposure and confrontation are two incredibly beneficial tools. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/17/25 at 06:30:50 I regularly visit a site with a lot of left-leaning people, and they tell each other lies, sometimes very sophisticated ones. It's quite worrying when you see how this is structured. They applaud each other for it and agree with each other. In this way, they inflame each other, keep each other emotional, and have started to believe in their lies. So pretty much every social media content on the planet. And of course, they also want to be taken seriously outside their own sene. But they can't engage in a real discussion because the lies are easily visible to an outsider. So, subconsciously, they avoid a real discussion. I agree. This becomes really obvious when the "discussion" devolves into insults, as if calling someone an UL DFI MAGAT QWERTY etc. makes their argument valid. Caught in a lie? - call the other guy an idiot. Somehow this makes sense to some. I think exposure and confrontation are two incredibly beneficial tools. Agreed. The amount of whining that goes on if someone exposes a "quote" from a social media post was completely fabricated is interesting. Don't be glad you now know the information you have is false - complain that someone informed you, oh and call them names. I know I call this a "complaint" forum and not a discussion forum, but it is better than anything the algorithm run ad-revenue social media apps and YouTube can bring. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/17/25 at 07:33:32 1B3B39312C3B5E0 wrote:
So, if you're NOT a lawyer, and I'm not a lawyer, our opinions have the same weight. You keep harping on me saying I lie sometimes. Hey, I was just trying to fit in. Your whole cult worships a constant liar. That means YOU support lying in general, and his lies in particular. Your only real beef is that WHEN I "lie", My lies don't agree with your lies that you are trying to live by. 47's lies are what stops you from interpreting the laws adequately, even though YOUR opinion bears no more weight than mine. So, mainly, you're just a MAGAT poser, trying, like all MAGATs, to sound like you know what you're talking about. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by WebsterMark on 10/17/25 at 07:49:24 2C3320333833383324313F33560 wrote:
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/17/25 at 07:53:03 So, if you're NOT a lawyer, and I'm not a lawyer, our opinions have the same weight. I agree. However the person who references actual existing US law has a more accurate assessment than the person who imagines up fake laws that do not exist. You keep harping on me saying I lie sometimes. Hey, I was just trying to fit in. It doesn't look like anybody believes that. It appears more like you lie hoping people believe you. The whole "I lied on purpose" is a common response from people caught lying. In that regard you do fit in. You also qualified your intentional duplicity when you stated that you would lie if you have to, not because you want to fit in. Your whole cult worships a constant liar. That means YOU support lying in general, and his lies in particular. Your only real beef is that WHEN I "lie", My lies don't agree with your lies that you are trying to live by. Except I don't support Trump, you just assign that to anyone that does not completely agree with everything you say. No different than Conservative members here that claim I support Biden/Harris when I show them that their lying social media post is a lie. Refusing to accept false information is pro-truth, not pro-POTUS. If your interpretation of treason is correct, why hasn't a single charge been pressed against Trump? That's the one thing the entire Democratic Party just decided to ignore? Every single anti-Trump legal group in the country is assessing it wrong, but you are right, again using a social media post as the basis for your argument. I'm willing to have the discussion, because as I already said multiple times, that you refuse to Observe, Trump should be charged. However, I cannot agree that laws you made up, including processes like a separate Federal court, that does not exist, are how it would be done. Your imagined Federal Court process is not real, that does not make me a Trump supporter - but it does make you a liar. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/17/25 at 08:14:54 7F5454555D5442310 wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Not even remotely close !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/17/25 at 09:24:41 Coming from another MAGAT supporting the ersatz lawyer. ;D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/17/25 at 09:28:25 By the way, Eyore, the Ersatz Lawyer, No one had filed charges because 47 has a bought-and-paid-for DOJ with a clueless blonde bimbo in charge, and a kangaroo Supreme Court packed with sycophants. REAL lawyers would know they would be wasting their time. Just wait until the sh*tshow is over, and watch who goes to jail. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by WebsterMark on 10/17/25 at 09:55:05 Eegore, it’s like you’re talking to a bratty and annoying kindergartner who makes up stuff constantly. Are you trying to earn favor with the gods or something? |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/17/25 at 10:06:35 Web, if anyone wanted any sh*t out of you, they'd squeeze your head. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/17/25 at 10:13:46 By the way, Eyore, the Ersatz Lawyer, No one had filed charges because 47 has a bought-and-paid-for DOJ with a clueless blonde bimbo in charge, and a kangaroo Supreme Court packed with sycophants. REAL lawyers would know they would be wasting their time. Just wait until the sh*tshow is over, and watch who goes to jail. I can see the logic of not filing charges, but why isn't anyone articulating the process? I mean real legal groups, not podcasts and social media posts - actual lawyers. The treason argument is like the Covid vaccine deaths arguments, nobody used actual epidemiologists/medical professionals as their references, they used Joe Rogan and Alex Jones. So obviously the vaccine killed millions of people, Facebook said so. Your answer to this is to make childish insults, and make up illegal procedures that do not exist, justifying this illogical stance by saying you want to fit in. Nobody is going to think I claimed to be a lawyer, this type of amateur tactic is a weak attempt at avoiding a real discussion. As long as you deflect, you won't have to face the fact some of your information is wrong. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/17/25 at 10:23:30 Why would anybody with half the sense that God gave a pissant put themselves in 47's sights right now? You KNOW you're wrong, you're just lying to yourself now. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/17/25 at 10:28:51 Eegore, it’s like you’re talking to a bratty and annoying kindergartner who makes up stuff constantly. Are you trying to earn favor with the gods or something? I am asked this regularly. I don't really put much thought into it, and it only takes a few minutes of my day. Typically, in all the childish behavior there are some points worthy of discussion from Needles, but actual discussions have to be done with people capable of speaking like adults. Needles, and other members for that matter, just miss out on that part. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/17/25 at 10:34:29 Why would anybody with half the sense that God gave a pissant put themselves in 47's sights right now? You KNOW you're wrong, you're just lying to yourself now. Nonsensical argument. If it were true there would be zero legal challenges. None. You are doing it. You are literally articulating how Trump can be charged for treason. Of course, using fake legal procedures, and claiming government websites referencing the US Constitution are "fake" while referencing government websites yourself - but you are doing it, and don't seem to be too scared of Trump. How are other charges being filed if Trump has this much silencing power? How are Democratic legal groups articulating other legal arguments against Trump if he has that level of silencing power? Somehow only the treason articulation is the one that will cause such damaging impact. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by WebsterMark on 10/17/25 at 14:00:22 6A4A48405D4A2F0 wrote:
I need to find something we disagree on other than climate change, which I still think you’re wrong about. Maybe I need to earn favor with the gods! |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by thumperclone on 10/17/25 at 15:21:18 [/quote] 1) Thumper has no idea what he’s talking about. Trump blah, blah,blah is the limit of his capabilities your bone spur FELON brags about his career swindles at W.H. luncheon blah blah blah just ANOTHER one on his long list of criminal attributes you don't know what you don't know |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/17/25 at 17:09:18 I want to share some insights I've gained from years of meditating and being with a mystic. It's about lying. We've all heard of God, and some of us are even Christians. Yet we doubt our own divinity or deny it completely. It's a huge taboo to even talk about it. During meditation sessions, when there's true meditation, you dissolve, as it were, and a completely different world than thought reveals itself. And it's not strange at all; you recognize it immediately. It's even quite normal, because that's our nature—who we truly are. It,s ferry grounding. When thought slowly returns and becomes dominant again, you see that thought is something automatic and not real, and that it's not you, but you identify with it. And eventually, you're back in thought and very easily forget who you are. But everything you say from thought is not true. And that's because thoughts are fictional. No matter how beautifully you imagine things, they are mental images that have no basis in reality. Note that by reality, I mean divinity, not an image of how things are. So it's a world turned upside down. We deny the existence of the divine,and believe thoughts are real, while the divine is reality, and thinking is fiction. I wanted to share this because we all have that thinking mind, which is so dominant that we no longer see reality. And, we no longer recognize lies. Just notice throughout the day how often you lie and how you don't realize it yourself. If you've made it this far tanks ... have a nice day. :) And no, Mrs. Spring Mary Jane is not involved here, but invite her and read it again. She can open the door a little if you sincerely ask her to open your heart. "It" is real. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by WebsterMark on 10/17/25 at 18:24:45 203C213924312637383B3A31540 wrote: 1) Thumper has no idea what he’s talking about. Trump blah, blah,blah is the limit of his capabilities your bone spur FELON brags about his career swindles at W.H. luncheon blah blah blah just ANOTHER one on his long list of criminal attributes you don't know what you don't know [/quote] Puddinhead literally retroactively pardon members of his crime family so they couldn’t get prosecuted for crimes we’ll never know. Give it a rest. In fact, rest up so you don’t fall asleep at your No Kings get together tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by thumperclone on 10/18/25 at 06:17:44 Puddinhead literally retroactively pardon members of his crime family so they couldn’t get prosecuted for crimes we’ll never know. Give it a rest. In fact, rest up so you don’t fall asleep at your No Kings get together tomorrow.[/quote] you ignoring bone spurs FELONS' increasing dementia doesn't change the fact he is in rapid decline have some more Kool aide and toast your snowflake idol before he is thrown on the trash heap of dogmatic history |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by blod on 10/18/25 at 06:34:29 7C6370636863686374616F63060 wrote:
What is this divine that you are talking about ? |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/18/25 at 07:10:10 I have absolutely no idea. Even the greatest mistyci have no idea what it is. That's why it's called the great mystery. It lies beyond the realm of thought. You can only be it. Chat GPT: The word "mystery" comes from the Greek myein, which means: "to shut the mouth." |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/18/25 at 07:17:11 "... rest up so you don’t fall asleep at your No Kings get together tomorrow. ..." Of course the UL, FDS, WOKE DFI Socialists, will FORGET to count/notice The Looting, Destruction, etc, etc, etc. And Of Course, it will NOT be a, 'riot'. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by thumperclone on 10/18/25 at 07:22:44 Devinity is in your head |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/18/25 at 07:57:54 "A God is a lie." I guess that explains how MAGATs decided to worship the most documented liar in history. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/24/25 at 14:58:22 Found this on line. (The Mirror, a well known LEFTY site) “… Hamas 'have kneecapped 500 opponents in Gaza' claims Palestinian lawyer Brave human rights lawyer speaks to Mirror on whatsapp call from inside Gaza and describes how Hamas gunmen are attacking Palestinians who oppose them And he revealed the gunmen were targeting any sort of opposition killing some and shooting hundreds of others in their legs.They have even set up at website threatening those they see as working with the Israelis. He said many of the attacks are taking place inside hospitals. He estimates they have already killed 150 people. He said: “It is horrific. Hamas gunmen have been rampaging in the areas from which Israel has withdrawn as part of the Trump peace deal. “From all the contacts I have in my youth organization I have been told how Hamas have been using hospitals like Shifa (the biggest one in Gaza City) to drag in terrified men, and young boys, who they either kill or knee-cap. One was a pregnant woman. Then there are children.” "The public executions they wanted put on video are not taking place: the hospitals are better to do their evil work. Israel only killed about 60 per cent of the Hamas fighters in the two years of war, which means 40 percent are still able to be reactivated. They are determined to control as much of Gaza as they can.” He said he had been targeted himself but he had escaped. He said: “I was myself almost killed. Hamas came to my house but I managed to escape. My sisters, brothers and my mother are all safe but I am no longer engaged: my fiancée and I have split up. Who would want to marry someone like me who is a target for death? Moumen Al-Natour claims Hamas are trying to regain control. “Hamas has already shown they are not interested in the Trump Deal's terms -- they will not disarm. This time they can act more effectively as they do not need to worry about harming the hostages. …” |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/25/25 at 06:37:02 It's the Isralies that violated the cease fire. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/25/25 at 08:02:47 7E5555545C5543300 wrote:
Yep, FORGET the "Rest Of The Story" "... Hamas carried out "a blatant violation of the ceasefire agreement" with attacks on its forces in the Rafah area. ..." (Yep another tactic, of the UL, WOKE, DFI, FDS Socialists. Ignore facts) |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/25/25 at 16:26:31 AFTER the Israeli attacks. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/25/25 at 17:11:48 :-/ 7A515150585147340 wrote:
So which Country/Nation are you going to ? You believe what China says, NK says, Columbia and Venezuela says, and now what the Palestinian (er HAMAS) say. Which one are you going to, which is SO MUCH BETTER then the USA ? After all, all the things you say the US should have/do, are ALREADY done in those places, AND MORE. When will you make a choice, and leave ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/25/25 at 20:11:21 Basically since Trump is pro-Israel it will always be Israel that causes the violence. If Trump was pro-Palestine, then HAMAS would be the bad guys. Simple. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/26/25 at 06:19:11 Okay, time has moved on. Israel is arming certain Palestinian groups to continue fighting in Gaza, and ceasefires are being violated daily. Israel is still creating a food shortage in Gaza. All 2,000 released Palestinians show signs of torture and mutilation, and the 200 released bodies show signs of torture, mutilation, and strangulation. Meanwhile, Israelis in the occupied territories are attacking olive groves and committing numerous crimes. All this to steal as much land as possible from the Palestinians. Israel's fierce and predatory attitude is no different than what we have come to expect from them in recent decades. There is therefore no question of a ceasefire. Israel uses every situation to its advantage to decimate the Palestinian people and appropriate land. This isn't something new; it's been around since the Jewish state was founded. The promised people and the promised land? Jesus was tortured and died a painful death when he proclaimed that concepts, ideas, and conditioning had to be abandoned, and that one could only enter the kingdom of god naked. Peace is so threatening to the thinking mind. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/26/25 at 10:17:14 In some situations, there ARE no good guys. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/26/25 at 18:24:16 Post " Reply #61" Where are YOU going ????? |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by buster6315 on 10/26/25 at 20:07:46 As long as the Palestinians allow Hamas to exist, there will be no peace in that part of the world. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/27/25 at 02:45:13 Please define peace for me, or do you mean divine peace? |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by WebsterMark on 10/27/25 at 03:26:51 All 2,000 released Palestinians show signs of torture and mutilation, and the 200 released bodies show signs of torture, mutilation, and strangulation. zeven, you have to know that’s not true. You sound like some other lunatics on here who believe anything they hear as long as it’s anti-Trump. All 2000 did not show these signs, that’s ridiculous. Come on, you’re smarter than that. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/27/25 at 07:04:13 I'm basing this on facts. I read it on NOS, our state news channel. Not the worst source, because they're usually pro-Israel. The Cardian Not the worst source, because they're usually pro-Israel. And Al Jazeera, which delivers unvarnished news and paints a fairly realistic picture, while other news channels want to deal with Israel and America in a politically correct way, they don,t. Just take a look. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/14/freed-palestinians-describe-horrors-of-israeli-jail?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/18/what-we-know-about-the-torture-abuse-of-palestinian-prisoners-by-israel?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://nos.nl/artikel/2534003-israel-martelt-en-vernedert-palestijnen-in-detentiekamp-sde-teiman-geen-echte-mensen Ask Chat GPT: https://chatgpt.com/c/68ff7b1c-72d4-832b-b6b6-fc215618c967 Do you really think that the Israelis who wanted to commit genocide did not interrogate the Palestinian prisoners in every possible way? And don't think I'm basing my opinions on these three sources. I've been involved with the situation in the Middle East for 40 years and am very well informed, and quite neutral. And I see how Israel actually plays more of a perpetrator role than a victim. The Palestinians are not innocent, but it's more of a resistance against Israel's plunder and oppression. I don't condone October 7th, but it was to be expected that this was coming. Unfortunately. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by WebsterMark on 10/27/25 at 08:26:38 If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they would have. Stop saying otherwise. And you can’t say you don’t condone Oct 7th and the next word in the sentence is “but” because that means you do condone it. Like I’ve said, your perception of the truth with regards to this is disappointing to say the least. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/27/25 at 08:47:21 Stick to the point Web, What the Israelis did is much worse than using the word "but." The Palestinian prisoners were tortured, abused, brutally mutilated, and even murdered. And I've shown it to you. I don't know what you expect from me? But perhaps you understand that I won't meet your expectations. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/27/25 at 09:05:56 405F4C5F545F545F485D535F3A0 wrote:
When you state your opinion/s, it is three, different, opinions. And, One is them is, Mary Jane. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/27/25 at 09:18:17 Discuss with me with facts. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/28/25 at 06:24:06 Fact: Zionists evaluated taking over part of several African nations, South American nations, and even Alaska, Canada, and Australia before settling on Palestine as their "Promised Land". ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by thumperclone on 10/28/25 at 14:15:23 5774496A6873747D1A0 wrote:
people like you are the reason instructions are on shampoo bottles ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/29/25 at 07:31:05 "... Hamas staged a fake “discovery” of Tzarfati’s remains in eastern Gaza City in front of the Red Cross. Hamas brought the remains of Tzarfati out of a building and placed them in a large hole it had dug in the ground in the Shejaiya neighborhood of Gaza City. It then covered the body bag in dirt and pretended to uncover it for the first time in front of the Red Cross. The entire incident was filmed by a military drone. ..." OH WAIT !!!!! The WOKE, DFI, FDS Socialists, believe it is Israel's fault. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Needles on 10/29/25 at 08:31:24 Babbling again. Y'all just sit around and make up sh*t and then try to scare everybody with your fake crises. Y'all are a waste of brain cells. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/29/25 at 09:36:03 587373727A7365160 wrote:
Still crying, WOLF I see ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/29/25 at 09:44:03 So if one Observes this video, what do they see? https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/ceasefire-crumbling-israel-pm-orders-immediate-and-powerful-strikes-on-gaza/news-story/3b473629369d71e49689ef430250e800 Looks to me like a body bag is buried, then later uncovered. It is my opinion that this is a body that is buried, then uncovered. One thing that I find interesting is the cleanliness of multiple body bags. Ive been around thousands of body bags in various states of use, and only fresh out-of-the-wrap ones are that white. They very well could be transferring into fresh bags for handoff, but the one in the video definitely was not under dirt for months. Another option is HAMAS body bags are unique and can hold a bright white color indefinitely. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/30/25 at 04:40:32 A few other questions: How does Hamas get such neat body bags and a nearly new bulldozer? Could it be a fake video so Israel has an excuse for more attacks despite a ceasefire? When will the food blockade end? How awful for the Israelis that they have to shoot Palestinian children, starve Palestinians, and commit genocide to bring about peace. You can't call the Palestinians human anymore; look at what they're doing to the Israelis. And who is the international community to tell Israel what to do? Aren't they the chosen people? And look at what was done to them 75 years ago. That's much worse than what they're doing to the Palestinians. It's very difficult for them that they now have to do things that are starting to look worse than what was done to them. The Israelis are not just victims, but the only victims in the world. We must support them in whatever they devise to exterminate the Palestinians and gain more space for themselves. They must be safe at all costs. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/30/25 at 05:25:27 How does Hamas get such neat body bags and a nearly new bulldozer? Could it be a fake video so Israel has an excuse for more attacks despite a ceasefire? It could be. Also the bags could be some of the many given to them by the US along with the other Palestinian aid people say we are not doing. The heavy equipment can be tracked to Egypt as part of the ICRC agreement. Not uncommon at all, and was publicized, that specific machine is seen briefly here: https://news.sky.com/video/machinery-sent-into-gaza-from-egypt-as-part-of-clearing-operations-13458617 Additional info: https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2025/10/27/israel-gives-egypt-green-light-to-dig-for-captives-remains-in-gaza Of course Israel could have faked the video down to somehow getting actual HAMAS members to participate and be on film with ICRC staff. Faking the drone footage is feasible but how did they get such exact collaboration, on film, on the ground by ICRC and HAMAS independently? When will the food blockade end? How awful for the Israelis that they have to shoot Palestinian children, starve Palestinians, and commit genocide to bring about peace. Yeah when you attack a larger stronger opponent, or complacently assist, sometimes you die and the people you know die. This idea that Israel has to feed the populace that is trying to kill them makes little sense to me. It's like people saying Palestinians should leave Israel alone. That makes no sense, they require every Jew on the planet die, so why would they leave them alone? They have to eradicate Israel, then Europe, then the US, then strategic cleanup systematically throughout the globe. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/30/25 at 06:17:26 Wait a minute. Don't you think the Israelis want to punish the Palestinians and withhold food aid? There's a peace agreement, isn't there? Does starvation belong to peace? As the perpetrator, who has literally bombed Gaza to the ground. Farmland has been destroyed. Streets have been bulldozed. Hospitals have been destroyed. Don't you think this perpetrator bears some responsibility? Or doesn't that apply to those entitled to the promised land? Can the promised people do whatever they want without taking any responsibility? How about this Eegore? https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2024/8/13/israeli-protesters-rally-for-the-right-to-rape-prisoners It,s a 2 min video Israeli protesters rally for ‘the right to rape’ prisoners Protesters, politicians and TV commentators in Israel are defending the right of soldiers to mistreat and even rape Palestinian prisoners in detention. It's really terrible what the Israelis have to do to get some peace. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/30/25 at 07:21:03 Don't you think the Israelis want to punish the Palestinians and withhold food aid? There's a peace agreement, isn't there? Does starvation belong to peace? I do think Israeli governing party wants to punish Palestinians. Starvation is not a peaceful move, but either is feeding people that will kill you given the chance. It,s a 2 min video Israeli protesters rally for ‘the right to rape’ prisoners Protesters, politicians and TV commentators in Israel are defending the right of soldiers to mistreat and even rape Palestinian prisoners in detention. It's really terrible what the Israelis have to do to get some peace. This is intentionally misinterpreted. Protesting the legal actions against accused is not equal to supporting abuse. This is like saying anyone in the US protesting the conviction of a law enforcement officer that killed a black man is actually protesting for the rights to kill black men. Obviously a substatial gathering at one location are essentially pro-abuse. Considering the Israeli challenges to their own command about the sexual abuse, it must not be completely acceptable by all. Some Palestinians drag dead Israeilis down the streets, parade women around before raping and murdering them, and some Israilis rape men in prison. There's bound to be support for both of those things. Raping then killing women and children - It's really terrible what the Palestinians have to do to get some peace talks started. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/30/25 at 07:42:28 This is your opinion right? |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/30/25 at 08:07:19 This is your opinion right? It is. This post is an opinion. It is my opinion that this is my opinion. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/30/25 at 08:44:20 The journalists who made this video don't express an opinion. The Israelis in the video do; it's a clear expression of hatred and inhumanity against Palestinians. Just like the Nazis in Germany also let their hatred run wild. So it's just the same old story. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by thumperclone on 10/30/25 at 09:32:18 435C4F5C575C575C4B5E505C390 wrote:
retribution? like what the white house snowflake is doing to his enemies |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/30/25 at 10:04:02 The Israelis in the video do; it's a clear expression of hatred and inhumanity against Palestinians. Same as the videos of Palestinians clear expression of hatred and inhumanity against Israelis. retribution? like what the white house snowflake is doing to his enemies No not like that at all. Trumps "enemies" like the National Jobs report Staffer that was fired does not want to kill every Jew on the planet. She also never, to our knowledge, raped women, tied them to trucks, drove them through town while Palestinians threw things at them, stuck rifle barrels in their vaginas and pulled the trigger. So in that case not the same old story. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/30/25 at 11:06:32 0B2B29213C2B4E0 wrote:
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/30/25 at 13:54:55 Okay, so do we recognize that hatred, because it's inside us too, and it flares up when someone does something we really don't like, sometimes something as simple as someone not saying hello. A war is nothing more than unleashing that pent-up hatred. That's what the Palestinians did, that's what Israel does. What then is a healthy way to deal with this? Because if peace isn't something we desire, then we're stuck in this game of blaming each other, venting judgments, which is nothing more than waging war. What else can get us out of it than the desire for peace? You first have to acknowledge what's happening there. See it for what it is. Because if you're not aware of that, if you don't see it with eyes free from opinion, then you're trapped in the same mechanism as the people in Israel and Gaza. There will never be peace if people don't see that all this is happening out of pain, the deep traumas both sides have endured. You can't solve this with ideology, politics, or economics. You can only solve this by encountering that pain. And it starts with understanding the state of being we're in. Because if you really understand and acknowledge that, you'll do everything you can to free yourself from it. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/30/25 at 14:08:57 Yes te same but on a huge scale and whit help frome the US. Yeah when you attack a US ally, the US will help that ally. When you murder the children of US allies, the US typically does not watch and say send those people that murdered your kids food. US citizens will. The US Government typically does not. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/30/25 at 14:14:23 Because if you really understand and acknowledge that, you'll do everything you can to free yourself from it. Except the religious doctrines require the other guy be dead. Not understood, not addressed trauma, dead. They have to be dead. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/30/25 at 15:11:14 You drunk? |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/30/25 at 16:57:12 You drunk? You really don't understand radical Muslim doctrine up until 2017 that HAMAS utilizes requires the death of all Jews? You don;t realize that while the official doctrine wording was changed, the actions, prayers and teachings did not? |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/31/25 at 02:09:26 Do you realize that, according to UNICEF, "more than 20,000 children were killed and more than 30,000 wounded in Gaza after the Hamas attack on October 7th?" Do you think it can have harmful consequences that Jews believe that God has a special bond with the Jewish people? Do you think that Israel and the US have achieved more peaceful attitudes toward Jews among Muslims But let's leave aside who is perpetrator or culprits for a moment, because that's not the main point of my argument. What is essentially wrong with Judaism or Islam and christianity that neither of the 3 faiths produces better people? And more difficult; Can you see that religion is not the solution to this problem, nor is it the cause? Do you see that hatred isn't the problem, but that projecting that hatred is, and that no one realizes they're projecting. Do you see the misunderstanding? Do you see what a load of nonsense the redeeming Messiah is? And that we ourselves are responsible for cleaning up the mess and that no one will ever come and do it for us? What has happened now is that Israel and the US have gone too far. It's an understandable mistake, but one that's reminiscent of World War II. The problem is that Jews, Muslims, and even Christians in the US don't yet understand where the problem lies. This cannot be solved by religion, this cannot be solved by capitalism or any political ideology. This cannot be solved by an army or the total destruction of an opponent. The problem is within us. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by Eegore on 10/31/25 at 05:36:10 Do you realize that, according to UNICEF, "more than 20,000 children were killed and more than 30,000 wounded in Gaza after the Hamas attack on October 7th?" I've worked with UNICEF for years; I have full access to all their data. Do you realize you have repeatedly claimed the UN has "ruled" that Israel committed genocide when that hasn't happened? There's been allegations backed by data but not substantiated rulings as you claim. Do you think it can have harmful consequences that Jews believe that God has a special bond with the Jewish people? Do you think that Israel and the US have achieved more peaceful attitudes toward Jews among Muslims No. None of that is beneficial. Killing women and children of nations with more leverage in the battlefield is not beneficial either, unless you want civilian casualties to gain sympathy support. Can you see that religion is not the solution to this problem, nor is it the cause? I disagree. I think it is specifically the religions that require the death of non-believers that is causing the problem. That is "within us" since there is no Messiah, or Jesus hitting up the local militants in-person telling them to go kill. However religion, in this case, is what propagates the murder requirements. Palestinians would be far better off if they would rebel against HAMAS. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by zevenenergie on 10/31/25 at 11:14:12 That doesn't detract from the fact that several authorities report that more than 50,000 children were affected by the war: 20,000 dead and 30,000 wounded. I agree that there must be rebellion. But it must be done against the thinking itself. Because as long as you want to change someone else, that's a form of aggression. And there are gradations in that, as we've gradually learned. We think it's someone else's fault, but the problem lies within ourselves. And that's precisely what ignorance entails. I can still hear Jesus say it on the cross: "Forgive them, Lord, for they know not what they do." And that's precisely what this is all about. People are unaware that they are trapped in the illusion of thinking and act based on that thinking. Improve the world, but start with yourself. That's not a slogan, it's a clue. |
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Title: Re: HAMAS Post by MnSpring on 10/31/25 at 16:02:24 67786B78737873786F7A74781D0 wrote:
Hamas ‘quietly drops’ thousands of deaths from casualty figures ... Claims that 70 per cent of the fatalities are women and children are complete nonsense, says report ... Hamas has revised its casualty figures from the Gaza war, removing hundreds of names from its official list of war fatalities ... revealing that 72% of those killed between ages 13 and 55 were males – a demographic largely composed of combatants. ... The updated figures contradict Hamas' earlier claims that most casualties were women and children. ... investigation revealed that 3,400 names, including over 1,080 children, were removed from the group’s March 2025 report after being listed in 2024. ... The first red flag came on October 17, 2023, when Hamas claimed that an Israeli airstrike killed 471 people at Al-Ahli Hospital. ... Within days, it became clear that the blast was caused by a misfired Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket and that the actual casualties were far lower. ... The 70 per cent figure was, of course, never officially corrected. ... Death toll in Gaza likely ‘higher than is being reported ... It’s possible that Hamas inserted real ID numbers of living individuals into earlier lists to lend them credibility and to pump up numbers, only to remove them once they had served their purpose. ... It is aware that their headline numbers make the front pages in the media while the careful vetting by data analysts is usually relegated to the back pages. ... Hamas has never acknowledged the death of a single combatant in any of its fatality lists, nor has it revealed the cause of death for any individual. Yet the world continues to treat these statistics as reliable. ... |
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