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Title: Shut down Post by MnSpring on 10/28/25 at 08:34:09 Used to be, People were consoled to have 3-4 mounts of money to saved for rent/house payment, utilities, food, gas, etc. What ever was need to survive. It was to be put in a saving account, never to be used except in a emergency. It was to be built over time, starting when you were out of High School. So now, the 30+ year olds, do NOT have that 'nut'. All because the WOKE, DFI, FDS SOCIALISTS said so. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Needles on 10/28/25 at 08:58:03 Wrong again, Sprung. The wages are now so low that it's impossible to work, pay for life's necessities, and have anything left to save. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/15/the-no-1-reason-why-americans-struggle-to-save-money-isnt-debt.html https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7236434/ https://www.bankrate.com/banking/savings/emergency-savings-report/ So, blaming anything "liberal" is a d@mned LIE. It's actually the predatory capitalists lobbying to keep wages low. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by MnSpring on 10/28/25 at 09:22:22 2C0707060E0711620 wrote:
Just one."... Average TSA Officer salary: ~$46,000–$55,000 ..." Sounds like someone wants to keep up with the 'Jones'. Or in other words, they are living beyound their means. (Cause the UL, DFI, WOKE DFI SOCIALISTS said they should, as long as they say; GIMME GIMME GIMME) |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by MnSpring on 10/28/25 at 09:42:27 Can you read ? Just the first ULR: "... More than one in five (21 percent) don’t save any of their annual income. ..." "... 20 percent save only 5 percent or less of what they make, ..." Don't need to look any further, cause it is just, 'Keep Up With The Jones". (Cause of, Gimmmmmmmie !!!!!) |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Needles on 10/28/25 at 16:01:53 I'll say this so that even MAGATs can understand: If you do not make enough money to live on, you don't save any money. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Eegore on 10/28/25 at 16:16:00 I think it is a combination of both. My opinion is that it is a combination of both. This post is an opinion. Many humans over spend. Many humans also live in a geographical location that prohibits standard savings. This is an opinion. An example is a young couple that lives down the road from me that both drive used cars, and grow food where they can. They live in a 210sq foot apartment that runs them $850 with trash paid for. Utilities cost another $311 averaged annually. That's just over $1000 a month for a tiny apartment. Add healthcare at $750 month, then general expenses and they have about 100-200 left over each month. If they do nothing but work and stay home they can save at most $2400 annually. That's enough for 1 month of emergency funds. It would take them 3 years of zero spending to save for 3 months of emergency funds - if they just work normal hours. I couldn't imagine taking 3 years to get 3 months savings in the bank on a dual-income standard paycheck. The closest home is on the market for 247,000, and is 1100sq feet with a detached carport. They need at least 17,000 down to purchase that home and it will cost about 1,957 per month as a mortgage. They would need to save for 7 years for a down payment on a 2 bedroom home that would use up most their income. So moving out of the apartment into the 2 bedroom is technically keeping up with the Jones' as it would use too much of their annual income. This of course leaves out better jobs and overtime if available. All I am saying is 20 years ago one could typically save more money faster than they can today and home purchases took up less of one's annual income. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by zevenenergie on 10/29/25 at 03:59:09 I find it rather strange that the previous government uses civil servant salaries as leverage to influence the policies of the current democratically elected government. Do you consider that an occupational hazard if you're a civil servant? But more over; That even people whose profession requires giving their lives for there country run the risk of not being paid because the Democrats are fighting for the interests of illegal immigrants..... I don't call that leverage, but a textbook example of out of control perverse leftism. Let,s do something about that. I can certainly imagine a lot of Democrats scratching their heads and reexamining Trump. The Latin word "Specere" means to look. Re - speckt. Get my drift? |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by zevenenergie on 10/29/25 at 05:11:33 But installing a far-left mayor in the capital of America is just as wrong. I see firsthand here in the Netherlands how a policy like his is spiraling out of control. And look at England. Surely, as a socialist or left-leaning person, you must also realize that what's happening there is disastrous? Have you ever looked into what's going on there? Do you want that in the Big Apple? darn, you crappity smacks. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Eegore on 10/29/25 at 05:28:25 I find it rather strange that the previous government uses civil servant salaries as leverage to influence the policies of the current democratically elected government. Do you consider that an occupational hazard if you're a civil servant? It's what one agrees to when they get hired, but they pretend like it's not part of the deal when a shutdown occurs. That even people whose profession requires giving their lives for there country run the risk of not being paid because the Democrats are fighting for the interests of illegal immigrants..... I don't call that leverage, but a textbook example of out of control perverse leftism. The problem with that is considerably more US citizens are impacted by ACA subsidies than illegal immigrants. Healthcare costs are going through the roof for US citizens, ACA by law, is prohibited from funding illegal immigrant healthcare. It's nothing more than propaganda to say fighting for ACA subsidy cointinuation is for illegal immigrants.. Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for premium tax credits or cost-sharing reductions to lower the cost of health insurance on the ACA Marketplace. They are also not permitted to purchase plans on the federal ACA Marketplace, even at full cost. Full cost will skyrocket now. Their primary avenue for care is restricted to emergency services. Emergency Medicaid is for everyone. Hospitals are required by federal law to provide emergency medical treatment regardless of immigration status. For undocumented individuals who meet low-income eligibility requirements, hospitals can be reimbursed for these emergency services through Emergency Medicaid - not the ACA Some states however use their own funds to provide health coverage for some immigrant populations, regardless of immigration status. . |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by MnSpring on 10/29/25 at 09:19:46 "... SNAP recipients are taking to TikTok and threatening to loot grocery stores if their food stamp payments don’t go through on Nov. 1 due to the government shutdown. “I’ma tell y’all straight up like this, I just got that text that the link is definitely cut the f–k off for November. Y’all better stay the f–k out of my way in these stores because I’m walking out with carts and I’m not paying for s–t,” one angry SNAP recipient fumed on TikTok. Another added: “You know what? Since they wanna take food stamps away, I’m gonna go to f–king Walmart, grab anything I darn want, put that s–t right in the basket and walk right up out that b—h … I’m not paying for a darn thing,” said another. A woman with long eyelashes and dark hair sticking her tongue out. 3 TikTok users are slamming the USDA’s announcement that the federal food assistance program SNAP will not pay out benefits in November due to the government shutdown, and are threatening to take matters into their own hands. TikTok ..." “I’m gonna be stealing like it ain’t no tomorrow … I’m gonna have one of my cousins with me that’ll punch your ass so hard you’ll think a Jet2Holiday hit your b—h ass if you think ain’t gonna walk out that store,” “Trump done f–ked up. Let’s just make it clear, ok? He’s talking about people not getting food stamps in November, and probably not December. He better get ready, because it’s about to go down,” Sound like a bunch of, GIMMMMMMIE People !!!!!!! Golly Gee Wally, ya think they are, DFI, FDS, WOKE Socialists ???? ( Dems vote for 13th time to keep government closed, halt SNAP benefits ) |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by zevenenergie on 10/29/25 at 14:08:06 6D4D4F475A4D280 wrote:
I hope your not telling me i,m wrong . I hate to be wrong... |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Eegore on 10/29/25 at 14:15:13 I hope your not telling me i,m wrong . I hate to be wrong... If you are saying ACA subsidies, the primary reason Democrats are maintianing the shutdown, is for illegal immigrants to get free or reduced cost healthcare, then yes you are wrong. ACA subsidies can not be used for illegal immigrants - but that doesn't stop anyone from lying about that. If it were true, tons of examples would be used daily to end the ACA which they have been trying to do for almost a decade now. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by JOG on 10/30/25 at 12:34:52 https://notthebee.com/article/i-just-discovered-the-ebt-of-tiktok-account-on-x-and-the-videos-they-are-digging-up-are-insane/ https://notthebee.com/article/i-just-discovered-the-ebt-of-tiktok-account-on-x-and-the-videos-they-are-digging-up-are-insane/ When they Tell you who they are,,,, The left don't want to vote for t CR unless they get to give $$$$$ to illegals. It's not Trump keeping it shut down. If you live in a blue city i suggest you get whatever you need that you buy from Wal-Mart and get enough to last a while and get it real soon. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Eegore on 10/30/25 at 14:15:58 The left don't want to vote for t CR unless they get to give $$$$$ to illegals. The ACA is not for illegals. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by JOG on 10/30/25 at 22:48:28 Neither is voting. Or drivers licenses. Or housing. OK, so Why are the left refusing to pass a CR? |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Eegore on 10/31/25 at 05:20:30 Neither is voting. Or drivers licenses. Or housing. OK, so Why are the left refusing to pass a CR? Why is the Right refusing to pass a CR? It's because they don't want to extend the ACA subsidies and reduce the Medicare cuts. Both sides are wrong. The problem is people claiming the ACA subsidies are for illegals. They aren't. The overwhelming part of this stalemate is about a program that illegals are explicitly excluded from. I get it, the only way to argue for increasing healthcare costs on the US citizen is to claim it's about illegal immigrants getting benefits and hoping people fall for that. I mean how else do you argue that you want to let health insurance skyrocket for US citizens, while also creating massive tax incentives for humans making $499,999 + a year? |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Needles on 10/31/25 at 06:33:36 "A person stealing food is not a thief." The "illegals using the ERs" argument is BS. When US citizens in other countries, countries with universal health care, get sick or injured, they go to hospitals in those countries. They are treated for free, or for comparatively very low cost, compared to the US. THEY don't have insurance corporations jacking up healthcare costs so the CEO can make millions. If people are on SNAP despite having jobs, then the wages are too low and the business should have to repay the subsidies. If capitalism cannot do that, it has failed. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by MnSpring on 10/31/25 at 06:58:35 7358585951584E3D0 wrote:
What if, someone came into your house, and stole something ? |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by JOG on 10/31/25 at 08:16:52 5D7D7F776A7D180 wrote:
Your opinion, OK But, the Right have offered to fund SNAP. The left have opposed. Misery is their leverage. I don't remember which democrat said it. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Eegore on 10/31/25 at 09:00:57 Your opinion, OK But, the Right have offered to fund SNAP. The left have opposed. In what way? The Republican proposals consist of only a few members sponsoring. For instance, Senate, Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) introduced the "Keep SNAP Funded Act," but never got close to Republican majority support. Either did Rep. Kevin Kiley (R-CA) proposal. Blocked by their own party and also Democrats. Both sides are at fault. Democrats offered SNAP funding proposals that were blocked by members on both sides also. Plus, SNAP is authorized for US citizens, or legal immigrants. So, this is also a false claim that the shutdown is for illegal immigrants to get benefits. How do you argue to keep SNAP from being funded? Falsely claim it's to stop Democrats from offering it to all illegal immigrants and hope people believe that lie. https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/obbb-alien-eligibility |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Serowbot on 10/31/25 at 10:59:08 This shutdown is entirely Democrats fault because they refuse to allow the removal of 20 million Americans healthcare How selfish :-? |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by JOG on 10/31/25 at 11:54:38 Yes,illegals are not being given ACA. That is what leftards WANT. That is the argument. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by JOG on 10/31/25 at 11:56:54 E said , SNAP is authorized for US citizens, or legal immigrants. So, this is also a false claim that the shutdown is for illegal immigrants to get benefits. So? The Republicans are Trying to make the shutdown less painful for The People. Leftards refuse. Because misery is their levera. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Needles on 10/31/25 at 12:54:47 665340584344405345210 wrote:
What? The GOP is willing to let millions STARVE because the Dems are not on board with taking away their health care. You can't blame the Dems when the MAGATs are refusing to even discuss extending the ACA benefits. MAGATs are telling MOSTLY their own constituents that their choice is starvation or death from disease. And they wonder why those people are tossing their red caps... Your "understanding" of the situation is based on misinformation, lies, and ignorance. :( :( :( :( :( |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Eegore on 10/31/25 at 13:07:51 So? The Republicans are Trying to make the shutdown less painful for The People. So the claim that the "Left" is maintaining the shutdown to help illegals is fundamentally flawed since all the arguments are for programs that specifically exclude illegal immigrants. Leftards refuse. Because misery is their levera. Then why didn't Republicans vote for the SNAP funding in any of the Republican proposals? Somehow Republicans voting down a Republican proposal is a Democrats fault. They are all wrong. Both sides are the problem. |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by Eegore on 10/31/25 at 13:13:50 Yes,illegals are not being given ACA. That is what leftards WANT. That is the argument. That's not even close to being true. You were lied to about that, but you probably won't Observe it so you can keep repeating the lie. You just WANT it to be true. There are no additions to the ACA subsidies for illegal immigrants. Follow your own standards you expect from others - Search: "will republican proposed aca subsidies apply to undocumented immigrants" READ Medicare is different than the ACA, and yes those benefits can apply to illegal immigrants. Democrats are entirely at fault for the stalemate on this, but not the ACA. https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/newsletter-article/undocumented-immigrants-excluded-affordable-care-act https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47351 https://www.npr.org/2025/10/03/nx-s1-5560987/shutdown-undocumented-immigrants-medicaid-obamacare https://chir.georgetown.edu/recent-federal-aca-marketplace-changes-strip-access-to-health-care-for-many-lawfully-present-immigrants/ https://www.nilc.org/resources/immigrantshcr/ https://forumtogether.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Fact-Sheet-Undocuemnted-Immigrants-and-Health-Care.pdf |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by thumperclone on 10/31/25 at 15:44:59 today two judges have ruled snap must continue to be funded |
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Title: Re: Shut down Post by JOG on 10/31/25 at 19:48:00 https://wltreport.com/2025/10/31/exclusive-trump-slams-democrats-shutdown-just-say-lets/?utm_source=newsletter_ssp https://wltreport.com/2025/10/31/exclusive-trump-slams-democrats-shutdown-just-say-lets/?utm_source=newsletter_ssp Good for the judge. That's what it takes to make the dems stop blocking Trump |
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