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Ed L.

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What a Difference it Made
11/27/04 at 17:08:19

Well I finally got out on my '02 after changing over to a Sportster muffler and rejetting from a 145 to a 152.5 main. Oh my what a difference it has made, instead of feeling topped out at 4800 rpm the motor runs up to 5400rpm with ease, came close to entering a corner a bit too hot Embarrassed

. Instead of going for third at 35 mph I was able to run second out to 45 mph. Big difference in performance and sound and was well worth the time. As a bonus the exhaust pipe is turning back to yellow from the blue color caused by running too lean. Grin

. The beastie does 60mph in third gear, wonder what the top end is now?? A handle bar change is next on the list,then waiting for a weekend when the weather is a bit warmer. Ride Safe, Ed L.

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PRH111 Ex Member	Re: What a Difference it Made Reply #1 - 11/27/04 at 18:27:01 On a 5spd you should be able to hit 55mph in 2nd and 75mph in 3rd.
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klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: What a Difference it Made Reply #2 - 11/28/04 at 05:59:02 Max speed in gears, five speed. 1st=36.9 2nd=54.5 3rd=75.3 4th=89.8 5th=97.2 All at 6500rpm Clive W
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Reply #3 - 11/28/04 at 07:15:05

When I'm out riding I try not to max out the rpm's (6500) for each gear, in fact I don't think maxing out the rpms on any engine on a regular basis is good for it. Instead I try to keep the motor's rpms where the performance feels optimized. My last post was just a comment on how the power range of the bike has changed with the simple modifications which I have made. Even if your riding style is different I am sure that you would be happy with the improvement brought on by the mods. We all know that the Savage is a bit underpowered and any way to squeeze more horsepower out of it is appreciated. What performance improvements have you done to your ride and how do you like them????

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klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: What a Difference it Made Reply #4 - 11/28/04 at 08:03:10 Speeds in gears,KLX650. 1st=35.7 2nd=52.9 3rd=68.5 4th=84.9 5th=102.3 at 7500rpm. 1st to 4th a little lower with a big step to 5th. Clive W
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Ed L. Guest	Re: What a Difference it Made Reply #5 - 11/28/04 at 12:36:16 Thanks for the info, Ride Safe
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klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: What a Difference it Made Reply #6 - 11/29/04 at 05:38:48 Hey Ed L. Performance mods I have made to my ride:- 3.5/17 rim laced onto std front hub,EBC disc + pads, GPR70SP tire. 4.25/17 out back,EBC disc + pads,GPR70SP tire. Trimed front and rear mudgaurds and side panels. Renthal sprockets and bars. One off pipe and silencer. Keihin FCR41 carb. Thats about it. Clive W
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klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: What a Difference it Made Reply #7 - 11/29/04 at 05:43:15 Max speed in gears, four speed 1st=37.3 2nd=55 3rd=75.3 4th=94.2 all @ 6500rpm Clive W
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sunny Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline rock this town Posts: 293 d/fw texas Gender:	Re: What a Difference it Made Reply #8 - 11/29/04 at 09:08:52 and at the toyrun i went to this weekend i discovered that you can do 20mph turning a corner while still in fifth gear... and i kept trying to shift up after the turn... with all those huge bikes around i couldn't hear my savage at all.
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Ed L.

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Reply #9 - 11/29/04 at 15:23:15

Hey Clive, I'm impressed, let me know how the new carb works out. Seems that there is only so much that can be done with the BS40. Stock my '02 wouldn't haul my butt over 83 mph, there was no way the bike would reach 95mph unless I did a Evel Kenevel over a cliff. Grin

Maybe with the mods I'll be able to get close to it which is good enough for now. Ride Safe

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Re: What a Difference it Made
Reply #10 - 11/30/04 at 04:02:57

sunny wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

and at the toyrun i went to this weekend i discovered that you can do 20mph turning a corner while still in fifth gear...
Roll Eyes

and i kept trying to shift up after the turn...

with all those huge bikes around i couldn't hear my savage at all.

20 in 5th? Are you kidding? What happened to "slow, look, lean, roll"? You certainly can't roll on the throttle at that speed in 5th.

If it hadn't been for all the huge bikes around you, you'd have heard your motor chugging and clunking and crying out :'(

Some of the information about the speed in each gear to shift up also applies to the speed to shift down

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klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: What a Difference it Made Reply #11 - 11/30/04 at 08:17:04 As I've said to Greg the FCR41 is awesome, way better than a dynojeted standard carb (keihin cvk40) but as Greg and I have discused the most important mod to a Savage is to sort out the horrible exhaust port, then go for a bigger diameter exhaust and then the carb. Clive W
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Re: What a Difference it Made
Reply #12 - 11/30/04 at 09:33:50

i was so frazzled by the time we got to that particular turn i had no freaking clue what gear i was in. did slow with the clutch in and went to roll the throttle on after the turn and it seemed to do fine. but surrounded by a million harleys i couldn't hear a thing. so then at 35 i went to shift, but the shift wouldn't go up. and my first thought was "WTF? no not now!" i thought maybe i was stuck in second but that had never happened before.
and i kept on throttling and was able to keep up and tried to shift up again, but it was a no go. that is when it hit me, that i had been too distracted by the riders around me before the turn to shift down at all.
it didn't seem to harm my poor bike.
i have NEVER been so glad when a ride was over as i was then.
even the supercold nightride home from work sans windshield paled in comparison.

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

20 in 5th? Are you kidding? What happened to "slow, look, lean, roll"? You certainly can't roll on the throttle at that speed in 5th.

If it hadn't been for all the huge bikes around you, you'd have heard your motor chugging and clunking and crying out :'(

Some of the information about the speed in each gear to shift up also applies to the speed to shift down

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Reply #13 - 12/01/04 at 03:03:41

Too bad. Sounds like a really disorganized group of riders to me. Riding too close. You should have dropped to the back, maybe. If you'll notice the riders in Perry's toy run, they appear more spread out

....and slowing with the clutch in is never a good idea unless you plan to stop. What if you had stalled going around the turn? You'd have gone down.

Your next toy run (if you do) will probably be much better.

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rkutzner Ex Member	Re: What a Difference it Made Reply #14 - 12/02/04 at 14:42:41 What's involved with changing over to a Sportster muffler? My brother has one in his garage he can't get rid of! Is it louder? Does it flow more?
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