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Durandal Ex Member	Diff. between LS650 & LS650P? 12/01/04 at 16:15:14 I have a '01 Savage. I finally got the owner's manual from my dealer. The manual describes my bike as a LS650P. Anyone here know what the difference is between the LS650 & LS650P?
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cphilip

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Re: Diff. between LS650 & LS650P?
Reply #1 - 12/01/04 at 18:26:50

I beleive its the addition of the fifth gear in 95 added the P. I see references to LS650F, PG, FG, PH, FH, PJ in some literature. I think... but could be wrong, that all F's are pre 95 and all P's are post. So that would be fifth gear (for the most part the main change) and maybe the second leter indicates wether or not they are California models (perhaps) or some model not sold in USA even.

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Reply #2 - 12/01/04 at 20:05:46

Durandal wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:

I have a '01 Savage. I finally got the owner's manual from my dealer. The manual describes my bike as a LS650P. Anyone here know what the difference is between the LS650 & LS650P?

Being a girl and not very good at this , my first response is the diff is the "P"... Grin

...Truthfully I don't know...just wanted to be a smart ass... Wink

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Re: Diff. between LS650 & LS650P?
Reply #3 - 12/01/04 at 20:09:03

LS650F versus LS650P
F - Flat bar
P - Pullback

The Savage was sold with the same type handlebar you see on the recent Savage (S40) in other countries - the Pullback bars were on the one's in the States. Maybe not exclusive to the States, but that is what the F/P designation was for.

The other letters/numbers were for the different years - see either partspartners.com - ls650 info and the discussions in other posts

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cphilip

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Reply #4 - 12/02/04 at 07:14:38

thehoghunter wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:

LS650F versus LS650P
F - Flat bar
P - Pullback

The Savage was sold with the same type handlebar you see on the recent Savage (S40) in other countries - the Pullback bars were on the one's in the States. Maybe not exclusive to the States, but that is what the F/P designation was for.

The other letters/numbers were for the different years - see either partspartners.com - ls650 info and the discussions in other posts

Now that makes more sense than anything I could envision....

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Re: Diff. between LS650 & LS650P?
Reply #5 - 12/02/04 at 14:28:54

Patty wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:

Being a girl and not very good at this , my first response is the diff is the "P"... Grin

...Truthfully I don't know...just wanted to be a smart ass... Wink

I like that. My kind of answer 8)

However, it gets even deeper than just the F or P.

Mine is a LS650PY according to the sales papers. What could the Y stand for? It has something to do with the country or the state for the original sale.

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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Diff. between LS650 & LS650P? RonAyers Reply #6 - 12/02/04 at 16:30:42 The last character seems to reflect the year. When I look stuff up on sites like www.ronayers.com, the varying years (or groups of years, maybe) have differing final characters. My 1998 is a PW.
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Reply #7 - 12/03/04 at 07:07:31

As discussed in this topic (Meaning of Letters), the letters do indeed stand for the years. From Ron Ayers:

LS650P SAVAGE 1986 (G)
LS650P SAVAGE 1987 (H)
LS650P SAVAGE 1988 (J)
LS650P SAVAGE 1995 (S)
LS650P SAVAGE 1996 (T)
LS650P SAVAGE 1997 (V)
LS650P SAVAGE 1998 (W)
LS650P SAVAGE 1999 (X)
LS650P SAVAGE 2000 (Y)
LS650P SAVAGE 2001 (K1)
LS650P SAVAGE 2002 (K2)
LS650P SAVAGE 2003 (K3)

We had also decided that the "P" and "F" designated the style of handlebars as HogHunter pointed out above.

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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Diff. between LS650 & LS650P? Reply #8 - 12/03/04 at 11:57:39 Hey! I remember that thread! Yeah! Wait... what was I saying?
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Susan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline Been AWOL but I'm back... Posts: 682 Eastern PA Gender:	Re: Diff. between LS650 & LS650P? Reply #9 - 12/03/04 at 12:19:59 Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12: Hey! I remember that thread! Yeah! Wait... what was I saying?
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Diff. between LS650 & LS650P? Reply #10 - 12/04/04 at 04:46:15 If the extra letter is the year, what about a designation for models within a model year? Isn't there a difference with the CA models? And how come they didn't continue the lettering with "Z"? (I know. Who cares.... )
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