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klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness Reply #15 - 12/09/04 at 04:23:38 Hey PerrydaSavage, look at Spark plug, should tell You everything You need to know. Clive W
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Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness
Reply #16 - 12/09/04 at 15:56:59

sunny wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:

stanley (which sells tools thru walmart) has a spark plug socket set(consists of three sockets in a pack) that has a socket that fits the plug perfect.
i've changed a plug in a parking lot while the engine was hot even. but then that was when i was still fouling plugs and had left the headcover(?) off.

and i am NOT the most adept at technical stuff. just ask greg and susan.

Are you kidding? Not technical...you've changed spark plugs! Cheesy

That's more than plenty of riders could say. I know someone who takes her bike (not a Savage rider) to the dealer for EVERYTHING. Not just service but also installing aftermarket parts. She doesn't even try.

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marty62253 Junior Member 2004 No Login Offline Posts: 78 N. Massapequa, N.Y. Gender:	Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness Reply #17 - 12/13/04 at 15:39:50 Try your freindly local Sears store. Craftsman makes an 18mm spark plug socket. $3.99 It works fine on my plug. As for getting the plug up & out of the "hole" - that's why they put that rubber thingey inside a spark plug socket.
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red2k1 Ex Member	Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness Reply #18 - 12/13/04 at 18:04:24 PerryDaSavage, A little bit about iridium plugs at the following link: http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=vshop&vid=5&pcid=102 or here: http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/technical/iridium_spark_plugs.htm I use the iridium plugs in my SLP Camaro, but have not tried them (one) in the Savage yet.
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness Reply #19 - 12/14/04 at 06:07:54 I just put one in mine but haven't ridden much yet. BTW, I thought it was rather easy to get to (with the tank off, of course) using the spark plug socket in the stock toolkit. It might be more difficult if I had it in the sidestand but that $20 wood and pipe bike lift is just sweet. I use it all the time now.
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Doug Keely

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Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness
Reply #20 - 12/14/04 at 18:02:55

My bike is running very rough since new plug installed.

Undecided

I've been riding the bike again for a few days now. It's is very cold her in Norman, OK(low to mid 30's F).

I have tried letting the bike warm up for a few minutes before going anywhere, but it still acts like it is running out of gas all the time even though the tank is full.

If I use the full choke position it runs better.

Is this normal for cold weather?

???

Any ideas what to do to make the bike run more smoothly?

Thanks in advance fo rany ideas or shared experiences.

BTW: I wish my kids were as easy to fix as my bike. Where's the forum for failing fourteen year olds?

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Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness
Reply #21 - 12/17/04 at 04:26:54

sunny wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:

stanley (which sells tools thru walmart) has a spark plug socket set(consists of three sockets in a pack) that has a socket that fits the plug perfect.
i've changed a plug in a parking lot while the engine was hot even. but then that was when i was still fouling plugs and had left the headcover(?) off.

and i am NOT the most adept at technical stuff. just ask greg and susan.

A whole lotta posts to read to find this one, but I did Grin

Trust me, if you had left off the headcover, you wouldn't have been in a parking lot...you meant to say the chrome headcover headcover thingy. That would be more accurate.

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Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness
Reply #22 - 12/17/04 at 04:41:59

Doug Keely wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:

My bike is running very rough since new plug installed.

Undecided

I've been riding the bike again for a few days now. It's is very cold her in Norman, OK(low to mid 30's F).

I have tried letting the bike warm up for a few minutes before going anywhere, but it still acts like it is running out of gas all the time even though the tank is full.

If I use the full choke position it runs better.

Is this normal for cold weather?

???

Any ideas what to do to make the bike run more smoothly?

Thanks in advance fo rany ideas or shared experiences.

BTW: I wish my kids were as easy to fix as my bike. Where's the forum for failing fourteen year olds?

The old Savage is a really cold blooded beast in cold weather, but needing a full choke to run is a little extreme.

Since you've already had some carb trouble, maybe the problem is still in there. How about checking to make sure that you aren't having any air leaks between the engine and the carb? You can also consider changing the main jet to a richer size, but I think that something else is going on.

As for failing 14 yr. olds....don't feel too bad. I had 2 under achievers that managed to become failing adults too Tongue

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Reply #23 - 12/18/04 at 11:54:03

Hey Doug, is the carb still stock?

When it is under 40 degrees, I have to run with the choke at 1/2 or she stumbles after idle, so I know what you mean. In the winter things get leaner and I can attest that my S40 was super lean from the factory, let alone in the cold (more air/same gas = leaner).

First, adjust your idle mixture screw. Mine was set at only 1/8th out stock. My best setting here is 1.5 to 2.0 turns out. Turn it in GENTLY, then out until you have the fastest idle, then readjust the idle speed screw on the left to get back to the idle speed you had and/or like.

Other suggested mods from other members here are to knock down the white spacer on the needle by 1/2 its thickness and increase the main jet to 150 or152.5.

I did the 1/2 spacer thing and the 152.5 main. Took it out today and it runs AWESOME, no backfires and no stumbling after only a short warmup (it was 30 degrees F). May be a little rich come summer, but I eventually plan to run a Supertrapp so that by adding and removing disks during different seasons I will be able to 'adjust' the jetting externally and easily through the different seasons...at least that works on our quads !

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rkutzner Ex Member	Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness Reply #24 - 12/24/04 at 15:43:13 On a different note, I don't really think you have to remove the tank to get to the spark plug. Mine was off since I was adjusting the valves, but I believe if you have the stock tool kit all you need is their tools and to remove that plastic head cover thingy first.
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Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness
Reply #25 - 12/27/04 at 18:25:06

Susan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:

Are you kidding? Not technical...you've changed spark plugs! Cheesy

That's more than plenty of riders could say. I know someone who takes her bike (not a Savage rider) to the dealer for EVERYTHING. Not just service but also installing aftermarket parts. She doesn't even try.

Spark Plugs? I thought it had fuel injection instead? Tongue

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Gitarzan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline ! Posts: 827 Columbus, Oh, Earth, Solar Sys Gender:	Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness Reply #26 - 12/27/04 at 20:34:01 Tool Kit on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35591&item=...
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Paladin. Serious Thumper Offline Hamster Posts: 4929 Sunny Southern California Gender:	Re: Spark Plug Removal Madness Reply #27 - 12/28/04 at 16:29:45 I will be bidding on the tool kit, seeing as I am missing mine. (Will likely be a little late to work Monday)
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