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About the MC oils again
03/21/05 at 06:46:36
 
Couple of days ago I stumbled against some article and it keeps bothering me. Years in a row I have been told how supperior are the MC oils compared with the regular car oils. There was no way to prove it wrong and just to cover my behind I kept telling the same story. Now I don't know what to think. Here is the lead:http://www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm
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Reply #1 - 03/21/05 at 07:14:40
 
According to the article it looks like it is more important to change you oil more frequently instead of using the more expensive motorcycle specfic oil and waiting longer between changes. Great article, thanks for posting the link.
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Reply #2 - 03/21/05 at 10:10:40
 
this fact i've know for years..


i've ran delco 400 in each and every machine i own.
that's from tractors to race machines.

it's the oil industries dark little secret.

it's like contact lenses, the pricy one's for day use are no different than ones for continured use.   just more costly because of the advertising campains,

[glow=red,2,300]hail the god of capitolism [/glow]


it pays to think for yourself rather than letting others decide for you,  isn't that really why we ride a savage?
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Reply #3 - 03/21/05 at 10:51:32
 
It seems this shows that viscosity retention is no better in motorcycle oils than in automobile oils.  That's pretty much as I would have expected.  I've been led to believe that there are additives in mc oils (particularly the 100% synthetics) that reduce clutch slippage and that, without those, pure synthetics shouldn't be used with a wet clutch.  Has anyone seen any independently verifiable research on that issue?
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Reply #4 - 03/21/05 at 12:50:17
 
Would it be a god idea to make a positive list of oils that can be used in our beloved MCs ?
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Reply #5 - 03/21/05 at 12:55:23
 
I use Amsoil synthetic and my Savage likes it just fine, and no problem with the clutch at all.
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Reply #6 - 03/21/05 at 13:01:26
 
DangMan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:
Would it be a god idea to make a positive list of oils that can be used in our beloved MCs ?


there is only one oil as far as i'm concerned.

DELCO 400  BY  CHEVERON. it meets grade standards, can be bought anywhere.

like i said in earler posts.  i run it in every machine i own.
i put 98,000 miles on my last thumper using only delco 400 and twice a year oil changes.

i would have got more but i (yes a man is admitting his mistakes) killed it by a stupid mistake.

somebody once said "oil is like toothpaste/deodorant, they all work pretty much the same, but we all have our personal preference".

my preference is backed up with miles totaling over a million in all the different machines i own.

THE MONEY I SAVE RUNNING ONE KIND OF OIL ALLOWS ME TO BUY WHAT THE MACHINE REALLY NEEDS.

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just my opinion   and you know what they say about that now don't ya.
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Reply #7 - 03/21/05 at 13:04:01
 
Yup, yup.  Just like an @sshole, everyone has one - and they all stink.
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Reply #8 - 03/21/05 at 13:46:59
 
sluggo wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:
DELCO 400  BY  CHEVERON. it meets grade standards, can be bought anywhere..

Maby over there, but here in mideval europe its not so easy to get my fingers on, here we have Shell, Statoil, Q8 and Hydro Texaco
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Reply #9 - 03/21/05 at 17:33:43
 
DangMan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:
Maby over there, but here in mideval europe its not so easy to get my fingers on, here we have Shell, Statoil, Q8 and Hydro Texaco



bummer dude.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - 03/21/05 at 19:07:00
 
DangMan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:
Would it be a god idea to make a positive list of oils that can be used in our beloved MCs ?


Dangman,

Stay away from oils marked energy conserving. These are the types of friction modifiers that can cause clutch slippage. If you look for oils like Shell Rotella, Delvac and the like you will find some really good oils that are priced very competively. These are marketed as fleet oils for diesel and other uses.  I was using Mobil 1 red cap but that is being replaced so I will go back to Rotella on the next change.
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Reply #11 - 03/21/05 at 19:12:43
 
sluggo wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:
there is only one oil as far as i'm concerned.

DELCO 400  BY  CHEVERON. it meets grade standards, can be bought anywhere.
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Sluggo,

What is the viscosity rating? I was using Mobil 1 red cap since I prefered the shift feel in one of my bikes and like you only wanted to use one type of oil. Red cap is being replaced with a higher priced alternative so I am looking for options. Before Mobil 1 I was using Rotella and will go back to that for now. I may look for this to try it out.
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Reply #12 - 03/21/05 at 22:18:49
 
sluggo wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:
DELCO 400  BY  CHEVERON.


I remember running Chevron Delo 400 in log trucks growing up - this stuff:



Same thing?
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Reply #13 - 03/21/05 at 22:22:22
 
Same stuff.
I'm partial to regular old Castrol GTX myself. So far so good, and I tend to seriously abuse my bikes.
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Reply #14 - 03/21/05 at 22:27:02
 
Another very interesting oil treatise written by a sportbiker speaks well of Sluggo's Delo400 and Castrol GTX:

http://www.gis.net/~manjo/motorcycle_motor_oil.htm

If anybody should have clutch slippage worries, it's the sportbikers.
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