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Oil out the exhaust and backfire opinions......
04/15/05 at 12:30:41
I've got an 88 that i've put about a thousand miles on my first month in the Florida sunshine so i've got about 8,800 on her at the moment.... did basic maintenance last weekend, oil, air, inline fuel filter and it's running remarkably better..... no more hesitation on the highway, 0 to 80 over the causeways in who really cares, but feels darn fast..... next on the list is tires, fork seals and the dastardly plug leak that everyone is talking about as i am noticing the leak when i detail her which is about all i know how to do as i'm somewhat mechanically retarded..... i got a used Clymer manual online at Powell's books for $7.50 and i'm trying to learn........ my nephew and head wrench was following me back to the Space Coast from Orlando in his white Z24 and noticed oil on the front of his car that looked like it was coming out of my exhaust, particularly during the ever so occasional backfire upon deceleration...... is this a normal occurence before fixing the plug leak or might i be in for something far more serious?? and, as for backfires, she only really does this when i stop the engine and gives a great big gunshot if i rev her first...... is this bad for the bike and is it wrong that part of me really enjoys watching people jump ???
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04/15/05 at 13:37:53
Okay...the only times that I've ever seen "oil coming out of the exhaust" also included the descriptive word "smoke". So, is there gray or bluish smoke too? If you have smoke out of the exhaust, you have a couple other possible problems
If not, then you could be leaking oil from somewhere else. Normally the plug leak is just an unsightly nuisance, however it can leak enough to splatter back on the battery box or your legs...but splattering back on a Z24 is a bit more serious. What have you got under your bike where it is parked right now? Any oil spots?
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04/15/05 at 13:52:33
Also, are you sure it's oil? Is it possible that some water found it's way into the muffler and mixed with soot? Just a thought.
Also, the backfires are normal on the Savage; to varying extents. At one time I was trying to eliminate mine completely. Now, it's just kind of a character trait. I have to admit that I sometimes find myself grinning when she pops and people duck.
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04/15/05 at 14:13:27
Gasoline is mainly hydrogen and carbon. It combines with the oxygen in the air to produce CO
2
and H
2
O. The latter is water. If the exhaust is below boiling temperature the water will be liquid -- which is what you'll see dripping from the tailpipes of cagers. Any soot in the exhaust will be washed out to put little black spots on anyone tailgating you.
AFAIK a sooty exhaust would mean you are running a little too rich.
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04/15/05 at 14:23:59
So, the questions are... Is it sooty water or oil? Where is whatever coming from?
If it is really rich you can see black smoke, particularly with a cold engine when you quickly open the throttle. You can also smell gasoline in the exhaust (obviously, since it isn't all burning).
If it is oil in the exhaust, it will be gray smoke.
If it is just an oil leak, it will be on the bike or on the floor.
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04/15/05 at 16:27:54
It is very unprobable to have such an oil burning problem. As everybody said , before the oil starts going around the rings in such a quantities, You will smoke half of the coast line. I've had this problem in couple of bikes and all the exhaust was full of oil. On top of this the bikes did not idle on the bad cyl. I am sure all the front of the engine is oily.
There is one more possibility- the breather. Is it plugged in the air box or it is just hanging down ?
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There is one more possibility- the breather. Is it plugged in the air box or it is just hanging down ?
Good point and you beat me to it. I was saving it until he answered the previous questions
What about the breather hose?
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04/18/05 at 09:58:10
Hi fellas,
I have noticed a similar problem with my Savage, blue smoke would blow out of the exhaust on deceleration from fast speeds (80-90 k/hr) or after the engine is revved up quite high when the bike is parked.
I do not want to think it's the cylinder rings, since I'd bee smoking on acceleration too, but I don't see smoke when I accelerate, only when decelerating...
what do you think? valves? valve seats? too rich? cylinder rings?
Thanks,
RW
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04/19/05 at 05:43:14
Let me think....80/90 kph is what, 50 mph? I don't have a speedo handy? That really isn't that fast. 50 in 5th is only about 3500 rpms.
I would make a guess at possibly valve guides and seals.
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04/19/05 at 07:14:20
Greg,
that's what my mechanic has been saying, problems in the valve area.
I guess I will have to start saving for that job to be done in July (mid-winter here).
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RW
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