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04/23/05 at 22:12:48
 
I was out exploring again today and was down a county road in part of Mark Twain National Forest. I was turning around in a pullout and got a little careless and killed it when I let out the clutch. It blew a fuse when it died (a surge I guess). So, I'm well off the road with no juice; no starter, lights, neutral light, anything. I had put a box of fuses in when I blew one installing the saddlebags and had practice from that event. So, I was able to pull the seat and replace the fuse. Everything was okay then, much to my great relief. It would have been a LONG walk to a phone since my cell phone was dead.
The point to this woefull tale is to caution others to have a fuse and know how to install it if needed. I know others find it simple, but some others may need to learn.  This was a first for me on this bike, have others had this happen? It's pretty spooky to not be able to go and have to fix it "in the field."
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Reply #1 - 04/23/05 at 22:18:50
 
haven't had that happen but point well takin 8)
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Reply #2 - 04/23/05 at 22:19:22
 
short round wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:
I was out exploring again today and was down a county road in part of Mark Twain National Forest. I was turning around in a pullout and got a little careless and killed it when I let out the clutch. It blew a fuse when it died (a surge I guess). So, I'm well off the road with no juice; no starter, lights, neutral light, anything. I had put a box of fuses in when I blew one installing the saddlebags and had practice from that event. So, I was able to pull the seat and replace the fuse. Everything was okay then, much to my great relief. It would have been a LONG walk to a phone since my cell phone was dead.
The point to this woefull tale is to caution others to have a fuse and know how to install it if needed. I know others find it simple, but some others may need to learn.  This was a first for me on this bike, have others had this happen? It's pretty spooky to not be able to go and have to fix it "in the field."


a couple of fuses come with the tool kit. you are correct about learing how to do it.. there are several othere things you should learn before hitten the road.  
1.  how to change tire with took kit only.
2.  how to push start.
3.  start and ride without clutch.
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Reply #3 - 04/23/05 at 23:01:33
 
Okay Sluggo, alias GOD, lay some divine wisdom on us mere mortals and explain how to do the other three items you mentioned.
1. Change tire, are you talking removal to take somewhere for repair or do you do that in the field and how do you inflate (must have some bodacious lungs!) I assume you have a patch kit, or else where do you carry the spare (as I remember your beautiful chopper didn't have one).
2. Push to start, what's the risk of blowing a fuse or other electrical damage? I assume you put in about 3rd and push hard! (preferably down a hill). Is this okay to practice without damaging something?
3. Start and ride without a clutch, the hard part must be getting started. Once going I think letting off the gas momentarily while shifting would work, but getting started? Is this good to practice without doing damage?

Thanks for helping all of us out, and also you others who I know will chime in with your experiences.
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Reply #4 - 04/23/05 at 23:17:28
 
short round wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:
Okay Sluggo, alias GOD, lay some divine wisdom on us mere mortals and explain how to do the other three items you mentioned.
1. Change tire, are you talking removal to take somewhere for repair or do you do that in the field and how do you inflate (must have some bodacious lungs!) I assume you have a patch kit, or else where do you carry the spare (as I remember your beautiful chopper didn't have one).
2. Push to start, what's the risk of blowing a fuse or other electrical damage? I assume you put in about 3rd and push hard! (preferably down a hill). Is this okay to practice without damaging something?
3. Start and ride without a clutch, the hard part must be getting started. Once going I think letting off the gas momentarily while shifting would work, but getting started? Is this good to practice without doing damage?

Thanks for helping all of us out, and also you others who I know will chime in with your experiences.


i carry my spare tire around my waist.  
the tire change isn't as important as the other two.
it's easier to get someone in a cage to take you to a service station if you have the rear wheel off.  that or you can carry it your by hand if neccessary. i see someone carrying a tire i would stop to see if i could help.
2. your pretty close on the push start.  first thing to do is put in 3rd or 4th and push it BACKWARDS till you can push no more. that puts the engine in the right portion on the 4 stroke.  then hold clutch  push push push  jump on pop clutch and go.  this works well if you be out and leave the ignition on. not enough juice to start, yet enough to run.
3. there are two methods, one  blip throttle pop it in first and hang on.  that's the method given in owners manual. second  start in neutral  push the bike to get some movement jump on pop into first   hang on.

very seldom do i use the clutch in everyday riding   just to get it started, and first to second.

it is ok to do these things without damage.

i've done all three of these things with both my last thumper, and learned how to do them when i got this one.  it sounds radical but when you do as many miles as i have you will get stranded at some point..
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Reply #5 - 04/24/05 at 01:59:50
 
I normally only use the clutch for N-1 downshift. And to hold the bike in gear at a stoplight or stop sign. Been a few years, so I need to relearn MY bike's peculiarities again.

I've never managed to pop start the Savage, no matter how hard I try. Wouldn't dare try it with the Intruder it share a parking spot with.

I rode my bike 45 miles on Fix-a-flat. I usually  keep a can in the tool roll. Destroy the tube, but get home? No problem.

Make sure you caryy at least 4 spare fuses at all times. I've had both blow at once a couple times.

And above everything else, throw out the factory pseudo-tools, buy a tool bag, and get some real tools. You'll need them sooner or later. Kinda hard to carry a roll-away toolbox on a bike.
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Reply #6 - 04/24/05 at 03:11:15
 
been riding bikes all my life and have never broken down or had a flat tyre(out on the road)........you all getting me worried now
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Re: be prepared for a blown fuse
Reply #7 - 04/24/05 at 06:32:28
 
Technically speaking about fuses, if you stalled the bike and blew a fuse....you better carry a bunch of them because there is something else wrong.  There is no reason to think that would cause an electrical surge....I suggest you get back under that seat and look for a short to ground somewhere....and check the battery connections to make sure that the positive leads are clear of the the frame too.

Oh yeah, you should be able to change the fuse without removing the seat...if it is mounted in the right place.

I'm not getting into the clutch thing...I use mine  Tongue
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Reply #8 - 04/24/05 at 08:17:04
 
sluggo wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:
a couple of fuses come with the tool kit. you are correct about learing how to do it.. there are several othere things you should learn before hitten the road.  
1.  how to change tire with took kit only.
2.  how to push start.
3.  start and ride without clutch.


FYI

I always run TWO clutch and throtle cables and tape them together with black electrical tape, after much bother trying to get through London with no clutch on another bike... I learned the trick from a courier....  8)
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Reply #9 - 04/24/05 at 09:13:47
 
Here we are pretty spoiled. The cell phone fixes everything. The gas stations are 24 hr and everywhere.  In some places every biker carries on a long trip  a pump, patches or a spare tire/or both/,spark plug, el. tape , piece of wire so he can pull strings to fix the fuses, and a real tool kit. Years ago all therussian bikes,  MZ and JAWA and CZ came with a pump .
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Reply #10 - 04/24/05 at 09:28:24
 
Thanks for the info all 8)
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Reply #11 - 04/24/05 at 13:36:15
 
WD wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:
"... And above everything else, throw out the factory pseudo-tools, buy a tool bag, and get some real tools. You'll need them sooner or later. Kinda hard to carry a roll-away toolbox on a bike.
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Do you happen to know what tools come with the bike? I bought my bike used and it didn't have the tool kit with it. I know that one tool is a 10mm wrench because it seems a lot of nuts/bolts are 10mm on the Savage.
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Reply #12 - 04/24/05 at 13:53:04
 
Jazzdude wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:
Do you happen to know what tools come with the bike? I bought my bike used and it didn't have the tool kit with it. I know that one tool is a 10mm wrench because it seems a lot of nuts/bolts are 10mm on the Savage.


See the post
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1108327792
for the factory toolboz contents. Dont throw all of it away ( acc WD). You'l love the sparkplug socket. the rest gives you a very good idea what to carry around in [glow=red,2,300]your [/glow] toolbox beside your celphone.

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Reply #13 - 04/24/05 at 14:12:05
 
Kropatchek wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:
See the post
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1108327792
for the factory toolboz contents. Dont throw all of it away ( acc WD). You'l love the sparkplug socket. the rest gives you a very good idea what to carry around in [glow=red,2,300]your [/glow] toolbox beside your celphone.

Greetz
Kropatchek Grin
Thanks much for the info. Time to start gathering tools together, plus fuses!  Smiley
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Reply #14 - 04/24/05 at 15:20:10
 
I run a non-Suzuki plug, so I carry a 5/8" spark plug socket, 6" extension and ratchet. Metric open end wrenches, real philipps and flathad screwdrivers, and at least one of every socket size needed for the bike. Plus the factry axle wrench, because I can't afford a 24mm socket right now. And a pocketknife style metric hex key (allen wrench) set. I've still got (most of) the factory tools if anyone is desperate to acquire them. The Intruder 800 that is my Savage's stablemate came with real tools from the factory. Except for the screwdrivers, same cheapo part as the savage kit.
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