SuzukiSavage.com - Funny Cold Start!

Bobster

Ex Member

Funny Cold Start!
04/20/06 at 15:35:11

When i cold start my bike, I have to pull choke half way, start engine and push back in choke imediately or it will die. Then it idles fine. No warm up with choke on. It wasent like that before i did some mods like, total carb clean, 155 main jet, 55 pilot jet, K&N cone filter, adjust mixture screw. Already had a harley muffler. Adjusted valves and replaced leaky head plug & spark plug.

Back to top

IP Logged

SAMM Serious Thumper Offline No lay down crotch rocket for me Posts: 576 Portland Oregon Gender:	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #1 - 04/20/06 at 18:59:25 My 87 hates the choke also... I pull the choke on and crank 5 times then push it in all the way and she starts..
Back to top	My Bike My Mistress ( so my wife calls her ) IP Logged

911radioman Ex Member	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #2 - 04/20/06 at 19:18:26 I have found my 02 to be a very cold natured bike. Doesn't like to run in cooler weather at all.
Back to top	IP Logged

gazab44 Senior Member 2004 No Login Offline TO OLD TO DIE YOUNG.... Posts: 416 uk Gender:	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #3 - 04/21/06 at 00:35:01 My 96 never needs choke, even in the coldest of weather
Back to top	MSN Messenger :- gazab44@hotmail.com VISIT MY MY HOMEPAGE IP Logged

HawkEye1967 Full Member 2005 No Login Offline L. T. R..R. T. L Ridding for the Son Posts: 170 Gender:	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #4 - 04/21/06 at 18:24:06 when cold pull choke out 1/2 way start bike idle 2-3 minutes bike starts to sputter, push in choke, ride away. Bike does not like to idle when cold but once it warms up, it's all good.
Back to top	IP Logged

Bobster

Ex Member

Re: Funny Cold Start!
Reply #5 - 04/21/06 at 21:33:47

HawkEye1967 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:

when cold pull choke out 1/2 way start bike idle 2-3 minutes bike starts to sputter, push in choke, ride away. Bike does not like to idle when cold but once it warms up, it's all good.

yes, that sounds like normal operation there. But mine will die if i dont push the choke back emediately after starting. But, it idles fine like that so its all good.

Back to top

IP Logged

klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #6 - 04/22/06 at 03:06:19 With the "choke" on KLX there are only two positions on and off, so full choke and turn over for about 15 seconds and she starts, run for 30 secs with choke switch choke off and drive away. You can give her a squirt of fuel with the accelerator pump to get her to start if she is not dead cold. Clive W
Back to top	IP Logged

Digger

Serious Thumper
2005 No Login

Offline

Ya gotta be tough to
ride singles!

Posts: 1604
Colorado Springs, CO
Gender: male

Re: Funny Cold Start!
Reply #7 - 12/28/06 at 20:37:58

Bobster wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:

When i cold start my bike, I have to pull choke half way, start engine and push back in choke imediately or it will die.

Mine (see signature) used to act like that. Turns out the vacuum diaphram in the petc0ck was leaking and raw fuel was being dumped into the intake manifold, causing a rich condition. I never figured this out until the problem got so bad that the bike wouldn't run well.

IHTH someone.

Back to top

Digger
2001, Metallic Glacial Blue, Raptor Petcock, Verslavy (first hole) (otherwise, mechanically, the bike is stock), 13,xxx miles
I don't own a cage.
www.astronautbiker.com

IP Logged

geo Full Member Offline I'm a Savage Posts: 204 Orlando Gender:	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #8 - 12/29/06 at 00:47:59 My 2002 is like Gasab44. After the mods, I didn't have to use the choke anymore. I do have to run it at 1500rpm or so for a minute or so before it will stay running.
Back to top	Black 2002 Savage with SuperTrapp 13 discs, Dynajet Kit-DJ144, K&N drop-in, NGK-Iridium, Windscreen, Amsoil 10w-40, Metzeler ME880's IP Logged

PerrydaSavage Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Riding "The Rock"! Posts: 3522 Republic of Newfoundland Gender:	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #9 - 12/29/06 at 02:22:47 My Bike is bone stock and the usual cold-start procedure is pull choke out full, start the Bike, push choke in to 1/2 right away ... let idle for a min. Gently Ride away and after about a kilometer or so push choke all the way in ... has worked fine for me since I bought the Bike back in '03 ...
Back to top	Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by arseholes! IP Logged

Guido

Ex Member

Re: Funny Cold Start!
Reply #10 - 12/29/06 at 05:23:43

HawkEye1967 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:04:

when cold pull choke out 1/2 way start bike idle 2-3 minutes bike starts to sputter, push in choke, ride away. Bike does not like to idle when cold but once it warms up, it's all good.

Mine is exactly the same, with the exception of idle time, only takes about 30 secs or less before it starts to sputter and has to be pushed back in, with the mods listed below. If it's above 60 degrees I don't use it at all.

Back to top

IP Logged

Savage_Greg

Serious Thumper
Alliance Member

Offline

Don't go around your
ass to reach your
elbow...

Posts: 7844
SW Washington State
Gender: male

Re: Funny Cold Start!
Reply #11 - 12/29/06 at 05:29:17

Digger wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:

Mine (see signature) used to act like that. Turns out the vacuum diaphram in the petc0ck was leaking and raw fuel was being dumped into the intake manifold, causing a rich condition. I never figured this out until the problem got so bad that the bike wouldn't run well.

IHTH someone.

Whoa. Even if the diaphram was leaking, fuel shouldn't be going anywhere unless the float needle is leaking also.

Back to top

IP Logged

klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #12 - 12/29/06 at 05:38:12 I have since found with the FCR on the KLX that with "choke" on and a squirt of accelerator pump she starts in 5-10 seconds and drives with no "choke" after about 30. Clive W
Back to top	IP Logged

Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29686 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #13 - 12/29/06 at 09:29:50 Greg650, Ooohyeh... , believe me, the leaky petc0ck vacuum will let gas thru. Not down the fuel line but down the vacuum line. Murderous rich!
Back to top	Ludicrous Speed !... ... ... IP Logged

justin_o_guy Ex Member	Re: Funny Cold Start! Reply #14 - 12/29/06 at 11:36:36 So, if the diaphragm goes bad, can I just stick it on prime or am I just gonna have to walk home? I guess the reason I ask is, do I need to replace this before it goes out? It's an 05 model, do I need to hurry?What is the replacement?
Back to top	IP Logged