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savagenewbie Ex Member	Possible starter malfunction 08/15/06 at 20:31:04 I'm not sure if my starter has just burned out on my 96 savage, but it doesn't make any sound at all to start when clutch is in and I hit the starter button, can some one tell me where i should check before calling a shop
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #1 - 08/15/06 at 21:21:41 So your sure you have a good battery? Do you have lights? Do you get a click from the decompress solenoid when you hit the button? Check the fuses and the interlock switch at the kick stand - infamous little switch there - fairly straight forward to by pass and find out
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29685 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #2 - 08/15/06 at 22:33:57 Key on, kickstand up, clutch lever in, kill-switch (red toggle by throttle, right handlebar) off. Always one of those for me. If not check battery negative and fuse. Good luck and welcome,
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #3 - 08/15/06 at 22:45:20 Serowbot wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08: kickstand up the little switch under the sidestand is the one that gives some folks fits.
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #4 - 08/16/06 at 06:17:01 Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08: the little switch under the sidestand is the one that gives some folks fits. Mine has never failed but I'm about ready to bypass it just on principle.
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #5 - 08/16/06 at 06:31:05 you know neither of these has either but I'm sure ready to at the least sign of it giving me trouble - seems it comes loose or moves on people so the stand doesn't trip it correct - one whimper out of it and it's gone!
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savagenewbie Ex Member	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #6 - 08/16/06 at 07:13:28 Yes I have good battery lights work well, there is a clicking when I hit the starter. key is on, kill switch is in proper position, have tried with kickstand up and down. I usually start it with kickstand down in neutral, clutch is pulled in too.
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #7 - 08/16/06 at 08:52:21 if it clicks when you hit the button seems you could rule out the interlocks switches - what voltage is on that battery? Clean terminals?
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pmanntex

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Re: Possible starter malfunction
Reply #8 - 08/16/06 at 09:49:29

Having experienced similar problem recently, I'm curious, did you experience any noticeable signs of excessive cranking to start before this happened?

In my case, first noticed some extensive cranking to start, followed shortly thereafter by crank, crank, clik, clik, clik of the starter---then nothing. Pulled out the Clymer manual and after verifying the starter relay was the culprit, replaced it, bike started fine---that is about 2 or 3 times. Then, no cranking, just cliking of the relay. Battery checked out fine, electrical connections seemingly good. I decided to take it in to a pro and am waiting to hear back---I'm betting it was a starter motor problem which then led to the relay failing. I'll post a follow up when I get some news.

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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #9 - 08/16/06 at 10:22:00 The starter motor is fairly easy to remove and reinstall. Take it out and hook it up to a 12V source and see if it spins. Be careful, though, it spins a lot! And something about conservation of angular momentum?
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #10 - 08/16/06 at 16:12:22 Got to hold that baby down do you
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savagenewbie Ex Member	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #11 - 08/16/06 at 16:15:43 Like what kind of 12V source, and exactly how do I connect it?
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savagenewbie Ex Member	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #12 - 08/16/06 at 16:16:16 also where might I find the relay switch just so I can check it too
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vroom1776

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Re: Possible starter malfunction
Reply #13 - 08/16/06 at 17:09:03

Yep, hold on, good! or better yet, put it on the floor.

The bike's battery should work as a source, assuming it is in good condition.

Now, how to hook it up. Maybe someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but:

red/hot/positive goes to the little plug on top. black/ground goes to any metal part of the case; it's grounded to the engine.

Where does the starter relay live? uh, see this thread in the tech section

You may have to download the images to zoom in on them enough to read them.

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savagenewbie Ex Member	Re: Possible starter malfunction Reply #14 - 08/17/06 at 13:05:48 ok problem solved......I'm new with these motorcycles, and didn't think of the fuse. Sure enough it was blown, thanks for everyones suggestions. Now I've got a fuel problem simply from taking the darn tank off, somethings blocking my fuel.....finding lots of info on here, I'll piece things together. I hope.
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