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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Intermittent start problem... Reply #15 - 12/07/06 at 11:22:05 yeah, that's the idea. I simply want to get rid of the relay for the sake of getting rid of it.
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justin_o_guy

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Reply #16 - 12/07/06 at 11:44:39

Hech, I spose a guy could stick a rod up on the threads coming out of the starter & have a spring loaded pivot mounted on the metal filler plate rear of the starter with a hot wire on it. All you would have to do is rest a toe on the right engine case & let your heel drive it down & make contact. If I ever rat this thing I will do that. I guess a crown nut on the starter stud would be a good deal.

Signed,,,, Les Izmore

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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Intermittent start problem... Reply #17 - 12/08/06 at 05:28:45 justin_o_guy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12: ......The battery is at 12.25 v after several times of just clicking & not starting. Might want to check that battery voltage first thing some morning after the it's been sitting over night with out any charger on it - under 12.3v the ign doesn't fire properly if at all
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mornhm - FSO Serious Thumper Offline HMMM Posts: 1105 Gender:	Re: Intermittent start problem... Reply #18 - 12/08/06 at 06:01:53 Justin_o_guy If you do some searching you'll find a discussion of me troubleshooting and then repairing my starter switch. Basically the contacts were pitted and needed "dressed." Be careful when you take the switch apart, there are fiddly bits inside.
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justin_o_guy

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Reply #19 - 12/08/06 at 07:45:37

Thanks,Mornhm. I am gettin myself "In the mood" for diggin in that switch. Fiddly bits & I have a long history. I didn't say it was always a successful history.. Wink

But I have a fair batting average.

REELTHING, I will check it but I just got back from a seriousl chilly ride, so the bike is all warmed up & the battery isn't stable. When I left it was about 25. I was wearing about 15 pounds of stuff on top of just plain clothes & I STILL got pretty cold. I am gonna have to get some dedicated motorcycle cothes..Gonna have to start a thread on that & get somne advice,,

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justin_o_guy

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Reply #20 - 12/08/06 at 08:34:15

Mornhm, I have spent more than 1/2 hour trying to locate your post. I (unless you can help me find it) will just have to forgo the "leg up" you experience would offer me & walk off in it. I have repaired copiers & cash registers with very little training. Sometimes I did finish them off , tho, sad when that happens,, Wink

That's the beauty of workin on busted stuff. Sometimes it just doesn't fix.BUT, this bike is gonna get fixed. I would like access to a used start switch before I go into this just in case I tank it.

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mornhm - FSO

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Reply #21 - 12/08/06 at 10:58:14

I searched for topics started by me (changed the number of days to 5000) that contained dress and it popped right up. Unfortunately I don't know how to put a link to a topic in a post.

Anyway the topic was:
Hey, something new happened to me
I started it back in September of 2005

Hope this helps.

Edited to add:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;n...

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SeeAPierce Senior Member 2005 No Login Offline Posts: 282 California Gender:	Re: Intermittent start problem... Reply #22 - 12/08/06 at 13:59:50 I just determined that my kill switch is intermittent giving me the same result: headlights dim ('06), but no start. I'll be digging into that switch soon, I just don't want to spend the $$ to replace the entire assembly for one switch. I may just bypass it...
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Steve530

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Reply #23 - 12/08/06 at 16:49:58

You may already know this, but loose or corroded contacts will create more resistance in the circuit. The increased resistance will drop the voltage. So if your battery is at low voltage and there is added resistance, there might not be enough voltage to trigger the solenoids.

Also, as the circuit heats up, the resistance increases. This might explain one of the symptoms you're having: cold starting alright, warm starting difficult. Since the "kill" switch carries current anytime the motor is running, it seems to be a likely candidate in this scenario. You might want to start there.

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justin_o_guy

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Re: Intermittent start problem...SOLVED!!!
Reply #24 - 12/09/06 at 18:33:45

I found the start button had some kind of grease on the contacts. That button is easy to disassemble & repair. It's almost as if they expected it to need work. I did notice while I was in there that the kill switch looks like an easy to crap out piece. Thanks all for the sugestions. Since the start circuit seems a bit flaky I am very glad I have added an emergency start button. I will leave it right where it is.

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