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Reply #15 - 01/13/07 at 11:29:08
 
maybe I'm soft, & I've read all about the Iron Butt Rally (11000 miles in 11 days going all over the place) but I rode across the states years ago (6 months, 16000 miles so it wasn't straight across & I stopped for periods of time). I found continual 250-300 miles a day too much (500 in a day & I'd have to rest up & go a very short distance/not at all the next day)

I was younger then (30) & weighed 140 lb & had a 120 lb friend on back for 1/2 the distance.

Moreover this was a water cooled v-twin (a CX500 Honda) with shaft drive so was much smoother than Savage. it also weighed a deal more (shaft, watercooling & engine jacketing & heavier frame all ads up) so was not as effected by winds/trucks going past. would cruise @ about 60-65 (I really did not want to break it)

I had a saddle bags, tank bank, "saddle bags" that sat across/round the tank (heavy stuff went in tank bag & these) & a pretty good size duffle bag strapped to the rear carrier (should have seen customs in NY when they saw us arrive off the plane with all this stuff with 2 helemts strapped to the whole bundle - LOL as some of you say).

OK, that was a long winded way of saying I had a hell of an experience but would never ever try it on a Savage, one or 2 up.

sorry guys - just my way more than 2 cents worth - promise I'll never go on about my trip again, OK, everyone?
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Reply #16 - 01/15/07 at 16:37:53
 
Go for it! Just after we were married, my wife and I left Orlando, Florida, for the Grand Canyon on a Yamaha 350. We had hard saddlebags, a tank bag, and a windshield fairing. We carried our clothes in plastic trash bags in the saddlebags and took a lightweight tent, sleeping bags, cookware, etc. The guy that sold us the bike said we'd never make it, but we sent him a post card from the Grand Canyon.  We were gone for 5 weeks, went 6200 miles, and had a ball! Of course, that was in 1973, when I was a little younger.
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Reply #17 - 01/15/07 at 19:09:45
 
When I was about 20 years younger, I rode a CM250 all over the place.  Carried everything I owned (not much) with me.  With a windscreen the CM250 was tolerable but a little slow.  The Savage is considerably more powerful so it's 100% better!  Go for it, keep a log, and let us know how you fare  Grin
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Reply #18 - 01/15/07 at 19:40:14
 
Not trying to step on toes, but I have a few things to add.

1st, The bike will haul the weight.

2nd, That far on the stock seats two-up? Really BIG balls

3rd, Contrary to what was stated and maybe what is common knowledge, it doesn't take any more room to stop a bike loaded than a bike with rider alone. If that were the case you @ 150# could stop your bike shorter than I @ 180#. That is simply not true. However, you are talking about asking your 350# bike to stop 3 times that with every squeeze of the lever. The brakes will wear out fast. And they will get hot much easier which leads to brake fade. Once that happens there is no brake. Careful on those down hill grades.

4th, Should you actually make this trip with just the one bike, consider some sort of breakdown insurance. If you do have a breakdown, a tow is only a phone call away. BTW take a cell phone, two if possible and don't forget to wire up a power socket so you can charge the phone battery while riding.

5th, Take your time. You will take your time like it or not so figure for it. 6-8hr days? I doubt it. If you can I congratulate you. However, riding alone I would find it hard to do 6hrs. Especially for 2 or 3 days straight. The safety of you and your wife would be compromised by the riding conditions. And this doesnt include inclimate weather conditions. Highway speeds are very physically demanding for hours on end. I would suggest a windscreen of some sort to help deal with this.


Good Luck!
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Reply #19 - 01/15/07 at 21:03:08
 
I can only speak from my own experiences and opinion. "Can I go too?" Sounds like a blast. Alas I suffer from being on this rock to long as well. Back in he "70's", how long and far weren't an issue. Today I can ride for 10 hrs one day and turn around the next day and due another 3 hrs. After the 3rd day, I park it for a week. I can not see me keeping to the schedule your planning.
Lots of good information here. If she needs more seat time "get her out" so she can feel more comfortable. I strongly suggest 2 bikes. Good luck
Load up the bike and cruise for a weekend or 3 days at your pace, regardless of the weather, see what you learn. I am not trying to discourage you, I think it would be a great trip and you two seem to be "free spirited" so I think it will work out for you; better if you realistically assess the situation.
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Reply #20 - 01/16/07 at 02:50:21
 
So far, the cheapes cell phone I have found is one of thoise 10 cent a minute things. My wife was spending in excess of $50.00 a month on a cell phone. Now she is spending about 30 bucks every 3 months. Tha doesnt count the cost of the phoine itself. They can be had pretty cheap. Gotta shop all the usual p[laces, target, Walmart, etc,
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Reply #21 - 01/16/07 at 11:05:51
 
Re cell phones have a look on ebay for a windup light come phone charger, god send in an emergency, invented over here (UK) by Trevor Bayliss he did a radio thing for places that had no power, I take one with me,

go for the trip you'll love it  just take your time life is not a race its to be enjoyed.

we are going through 6 european countries in june but not 2 up Krope watch out we may drop in. 3542 km's in 14 days we hope.

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Reply #22 - 01/16/07 at 12:51:18
 
great suggestions everyone.  i sincerely appreciate all the input.  it's great to hear everyone's opinons as well.  since the money is definitely not there for a second bike, we're most likely just going to throw a little money at this one to make it more comfortable.  

let's see, what stuff has everyone covered:
security, definitely getting the targus motion alarm- a friend of mine had one of those they're awesome.  cell phones- have two, no roaming anywhere, 911 gps.  the bike also has lojack.  
comfort- looking at some seats on ebay.  i do sorda have an iron ar$e as well.  trucking is in the blood (dad, uncle, great grandad, great uncle, and some others on some other side of the family that we don't talk to  Lips Sealed ), and i've also been known to go an extra few miles before my bum goes numb myself.  on that note, however, this is a leisure cruise, and i won't be bothered if we only ride for 2 1/2 hours a day at 50mph.  there's a lot of cool scheiße to see out there and we plan to take it all in.  i've allowed enough $$ for that, and for days where we don't ride at all (i.e. weather too bad, too tired, otherwise preoccupied, etc.).

we also have AAA, which will get us towed somewhere in a worst case breakdown scenario.

that being said, anyone is welcome to join us at whatever point.  i'd definitely like to stop and meet some folks from here along the way.

allan, our next big trip after this will definitely be to europe.  maybe by then i'll have the 50' ketch that i've been dreaming of and i'll be able to haul the savages across the pond on it.
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Reply #23 - 01/16/07 at 14:22:04
 
Might ought to check with AAA. I'm not sure that they offer motorcycle towing with their auto policies. If they do that's great!!
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Reply #24 - 01/16/07 at 14:34:09
 
Most everything that needs to be said about long distance on a Savage has been said in this and other threads. With those things in mind.
1. Plan your gas stops carefully.
2. Rain gear takes up more space than you would believe possible.
3. A GPS and mapping software is your friend, but if money is tight this probably isn't an option. The internet makes a good substitute for this.
4. If you're comfortable on your MC 6-8 hour days aren't bad and leaves plenty of time for ...
5. I haven't done it, but if I was planning on travelling on the cheap, I'd figure out how to put a backpack on my MC rather than saddle bags. (OK my MC has hard bags, but if I was going to live off my MC I'd want my backpack).
6. On the Savage, I'd condsider a tank bag and a trunk before I added saddle bags. (I commuted on mine without ever having saddle bags.)
7. Sunscreen on your face (assuming that everything else is covered by gear. After a week on the road, I had a sunburned face inside my FF helmet.
8. Some Advil helps me feel better when taken before a long days ride.
9. A leatherman or multi-tool is a good thing to have.
10. Lots of water containers. I find quality for tools rather than quantity is preferred.
11. I think you'll run out of volume on any MC before you run out of weight capacity (unless you stick to the manufacturer's recommendations).
12. Think safety first. You want to arrive alive at the end.
13. Think personal/property protection second, not everyone out there is friendly. You sound like you won't be in possession of much "stuff" so if you lose any of it you might be in trouble.
14. If you don't know how, learn to fish. Carry hand lines or full gear to feed yourself, money will go a lot further that way.

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Reply #25 - 01/16/07 at 17:45:37
 
I use a backpack on Bull, my 05 BOULevard, I use a bungee cord thru the helmet lock, across the seat, to the top loop of the pack. I sewed a D-ring on a piece of 1/2" webbing to the rear leading edge & secure that to the shock mnount w/ parachute cord. Tacky as heck, but the pack is still usable as a backpack. The prob here is it puts a bungee cord under the pillon arse. Might not be a hassle with a little padding. Got 2 @ walmart for about $20.00 I think, just a bit under that. It has sraps with clips that are used to tighten the thing up, close it down on itself so it doesnt flap when it's not ful;ll. I use them to contain the shoulder straps even when it is full. I've had it very loaded several times. Now, the other side has the pipe. I've never needed a second bag so I've never gone to the trouble of figuring how to mount it. I will say I like parachute cord along with good bungee cords.Tubes of cords at walmart or lowes for 10 or 12 bucks will have the options necessary to get the right fit. Parachute cord is light, strong enough for any packing job like a bike trip. Doesn't fray. Small enough to pack extra. If you know how to tie a bowline & use a halfhitch you can tie as tight as you can pull X2 by using a loop for a pulley(bowline for a loop) Bowlines can always be untied no matter how tight the load. Halfhitch is nothing to get loose.Especially if you do take a Leatherman tool,The needlenose will make quick work of a knot that gets a bit tighter thAN intended.
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Reply #26 - 01/17/07 at 05:09:52
 
one thing that has helped my wife and I (we do alot of 2 up riding on the savage) was when i shaved off about 1.5 inches off of the sissy bar pad. it was pretty easy. just took the cover off, shaved and shaped off the foam with a serrated bread knife and hand sewed the cover back on. the cover looks a little cheesy and i am sure somebody could do a better sewing job than I did.
But, this allowed my wife more room to skid backwards and i was no longer squishing my cojones on the front of the tank, especially when braking. Definitely do the drivers seat lift too !
good luck on your road trip
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Reply #27 - 01/17/07 at 06:42:24
 
mornhm - FSO wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
14. If you don't know how, learn to fish. Carry hand lines or full gear to feed yourself, money will go a lot further that way.


definitely!  i keep line, a few hooks, and a tiny jar of that paste-style bait in my "bug-out-bag."  of course, i'll be transferring some of the contents of my bug-out-bag to the luggage of the bike.

we have a LOT of camping gear, as we go hiking/backpacking/camping pretty often.  so finding just the right stuff should be no problem.  we'll probably make a big trip to Ranger Surplus before we go.

franch, interesting suggestion about the sissy bar pad.  i never thought about that.  i might have to check that out.
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Reply #28 - 01/17/07 at 15:02:09
 
EntropyofMe wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
franch, interesting suggestion about the sissy bar pad.  i never thought about that.  i might have to check that out.


Another option is to take the pad completely off and reconstruct it.  I've had good luck with 1/4" plywood, memory foam (just buy a foam pillow from walmart for that), and then covering it with marine grade vinyl.  That way you can make it thinner/thicker as desired, as well as make it taller/wider as you may want.
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Reply #29 - 01/26/07 at 20:25:03
 
Stay off the interstate, the smaller the (paved) road, the better.

Take care of yourselves....lots of water and rest stops.

The bike can take a lot of abuse.  Keep an eye on engine oil and tires, especially the rear tire.  Keep up with the tire pressures.

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