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Re: Idle problem
Reply #15 - 01/17/07 at 22:02:10
 
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Reply #16 - 01/18/07 at 10:16:21
 
justin_o_guy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
Testing, testing.. I put my gun's hammer on halfcock. I dug ice cream out with a spoon.

Also, that's what mine is doing now. Idle will drop to the point I think it's gonna die, but, if it doesn't, it will crawl back up toward normal.I, too, failed to reinstall the slide without fingerprints. Maybe even had oil on it. What happens if I type pregnant dog?


Sorry to hear that you're having an idle problem but glad to see I'm not the only one <g>. Sounds like we have the exact same symptom.

Won't be able to work on the bike this afternoon after work but should be able to get to it tomorrow afternoon. "I'm gonna wash that idle right outa my slide!"

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Reply #17 - 01/18/07 at 12:46:25
 
To test if petcock is the problem, remove the vacuum line completely, plug off at the petcock and the carb, then run on prime.  If this fixes the problem you have a leaky vacuum diaphram in the petcock.  
It's an easy test that costs very little in time or money and eliminates one possibility.
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Reply #18 - 01/18/07 at 13:45:25
 
I had similar idle problems and some intermitent WOT problems.  Did the petc0ck conversion and problem solved...except for the time I ran stone dry out of gas  Embarrassed
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Reply #19 - 01/19/07 at 16:36:54
 
Serowbot wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
To test if petcock is the problem, remove the vacuum line completely, plug off at the petcock and the carb, then run on prime.  If this fixes the problem you have a leaky vacuum diaphram in the petcock.  
It's an easy test that costs very little in time or money and eliminates one possibility.
best of luck,


justin-o-guy! Heads up!

I did that today and sure enough, that was the problem. It idles great in the PRI position with the vacuum hose removed and the carb port capped off. Now I just have to decide if I want to do the manual mod or buy a new petc0ck. Knowing me, I'd probably always forget to turn it off if I modified it so I'll probably buy a new valve unless I can find a new diaphragm. Ron Ayers has it for $56.

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Reply #20 - 01/19/07 at 18:41:21
 
Check ebay there's a couple available now.

Also check out the intruder petc0cks, visually looks interchangable but no vacuum on/off.
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Reply #21 - 01/19/07 at 19:04:41
 
Gee, maybe that will help with my 35 mpg! Woo screamin HOOO, wooden that be cool? It is odd that I have a supertrapp with 8 baffles & running a 150 main & it smells rich & rarely needs the choke. It's also kinda intermittent in its behavior.
I will check this out & if necessary. I will look to repair the petDOOkickey just with stuff I have around.Should that fail, well, I will look here for more help. Thanks all.

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                                                     Thanks Mr.Long
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Reply #22 - 01/19/07 at 20:03:43
 
Do you think maybe the air filter is not getting enough air through it. When My husband and I first got my bike to start it had the same Idol problem but it was fixed when we got the make shift air filter in her flowing the correct amount of air. If there is not enough air going through the filter that could cause the bike to stall or maybe to much air. Check that out It might help. I am by far not an expert and this may be real bad advice but maybe it might help.
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Reply #23 - 01/19/07 at 20:11:57
 
I am still running the original filter, has almost 14,000 miles on it. I have a replacement drop in K&N on the bench, ready to install. I don't thihnk that's the problem. I will look at the PetdoohiCkeyOCK & see what it does, too..
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Reply #24 - 01/19/07 at 20:20:39
 
verslagen1 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
Check ebay there's a couple available now.

Also check out the intruder petc0cks, visually looks interchangable but no vacuum on/off.


Maybe you have a vacuume leak.
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Reply #25 - 01/19/07 at 20:41:27
 
You know what? Noiw that you mention that, I have to agree! & how cool would that be? So simple to solve & the $$$ is good from that angle, too. You know why that suddenly makes sense? Cuz I pop the line loose at the carb end & not the PetCorck, so when I pull the takn I am torturing & poinching that line. Now, would a vac leak there make me rich? I am thinking no, but it would make me idle goofy. SOThanks Bikermom, mighta helped me out a bit.

Okay folks, lets say I have a slight leak in that vac line. What will the symptome be?

Okay, I sucked on it & it didn't feel like a solid line. Am I supposed to be able to get any air or is it spose to be like suckin on a glass  coke bottle? Or a plugged straw?
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Reply #26 - 01/19/07 at 21:07:08
 
Do the test that serowbot described and it will tell you without a doubt if you have a vacuum problem with the hose or the petc0ck. I did it and my idle problem went away completely.

I don't think my '02 has ever idled so well and the choke (enrichener) works like it should now. Before, it used to work sometimes and other times it seemed to do nothing. Same with my idle mixture screw. I always thought it was carb problems but even after overhauling the carb the problems were still there. It took removing the vacuum line from the petc0ck and plugging the port on the carb to expose the real cause.

Ken
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Reply #27 - 01/19/07 at 21:33:09
 
Your welcome anything to help. That is to what I know. Not much knowlage but I am on a learning curve.
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Reply #28 - 01/26/07 at 20:35:43
 
I did the Serowbot test last summer and it fixed the rich condition my engine was experiencing.  I think a bad petc0ck diaphragm was letting fuel into the vacuum line, and thence into the intake manifold.

SEE:  http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;n...
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