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Rattle when accelerating
01/25/07 at 19:43:07
 
I have noticed a rattle when I accelerate.  I don't get the rattling when the clutch is disengaged or when it is in neatral, only during acceleration.  There is not lose in power or performance in any way.  I just started noticing it since the weather has turned damp and cold again.  Once I get up to cruising speed, and stop accelerating, it stops.  It appears to be coming from the lower case, but I can not be certain of that, and also appears to be on the right side (same as pipe).  Before I talk to the shop,I am going to make sure there is nothing loose externally, and also try to get some ideas what it may be.
Any ideas?? Undecided ???
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Re: Rattle when accelerating
Reply #1 - 01/25/07 at 19:52:10
 
Just a wild stab in the dark here. Weather / humidity change can cause condensate. Maybe the engine is 'pinging' from bad gas / loss of octane. Maybe try a fuel aditive, and a fill-up with premium fuel. It's a cheap thing to try, and there is no harm in it.
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Reply #2 - 01/25/07 at 20:08:00
 
That could be the problem.  I went on a ride with the Patriot Guard today, about 300 miles and had to fill up three times.  All three fill ups were with premium, but the initial fill up was with mid grade.  The fill ups were in areas of the state that has had a lot of rain.  
It don't really sound like a ping you get from low octane though, it is more of a rattle.
Thanks for your ideas any ways.  Will consider your idea.
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Reply #3 - 01/25/07 at 20:23:48
 
Do you perhaps carry a sabre?
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Re: Rattle when accelerating
Reply #4 - 01/26/07 at 01:34:15
 
When riding it's very difficult to check where the noise is comming from.
I would check the LH side, the forward belt drive gear.
Remove the cover. Take care that the bolts, washers and rubber grommets stay in the same place as they are all different lenghts.
Check for rubbing of the beltgear on the inside of the cover.
When you're at it check the tightness of the nut ( torque is 130Nm).

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Reply #5 - 01/26/07 at 03:49:49
 
You didnt say how many miles on her, think of checking the cam chain adjuster?
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Reply #6 - 01/26/07 at 04:56:18
 
sounds to me more like it could be a loose part/cover.  Bike vibrations change based on both rpm and load.  I would give both sides of the bike a good once over for loose covers or brackets.....side covers, heat shields, battery box covers, saddle bag brackets etc.

I noticed an increase in vibes in my GIXER based streetfighter and that turnded out that I had 3 engine bolts that needed to be snugged up.  I had just assembled the bike after powder coating and all the bolts, brackets and engine had now settled in to the thick paint in some places and was a little loose.  Made all the difference in the world.

Another thought...try carefully placing a (gloved) hand down on the frame, engine case, etc when you hear it and you might be able to feel where it is coming from.  (just stay away from those hot and moving parts!! or all the noise will be coming from you  Embarrassed)
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Reply #7 - 01/26/07 at 04:58:47
 
Also, you didn't mention...is it independent of what gear you are in?? (Although this one can be tough since it can be hard to replicate exact engine loading and dynamics in each gear. so only happening in top gear might not indicate it is top gear but rather you really need to load or lug the engine to produce the vibe/noise)
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Reply #8 - 01/26/07 at 08:39:59
 
firsts40 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
That could be the problem.  I went on a ride with the Patriot Guard today, about 300 miles and had to fill up three times.  All three fill ups were with premium, but the initial fill up was with mid grade.  The fill ups were in areas of the state that has had a lot of rain.  
It don't really sound like a ping you get from low octane though, it is more of a rattle.
Thanks for your ideas any ways.  Will consider your idea.


2 ideas here...

First, I wouldn't worry about water in the gas.  Not the problem if the bike is running.  You can save 20 cents per gallon and use regular gas, too.  The Savage has low compression and it runs just fine on it.  Just a waste of money.  Might even burn cleaner, too.

Second, my spouse's Savage had a mysterious rattle when it was new...and it was exactly where Kropatchek has mentioned.  That left side pulley cover can actually vibrate against the belt guard.  When we would be riding, I could hear it when I was beside her bike going down the road.

At the time (on the road side), I took a wild guess and jammed a piece of paper in there.  Bingo, it worked.  That paper stayed there for quite awhile until I got around to messing with the cover Smiley

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Reply #9 - 01/26/07 at 09:01:39
 
Thanks for the info guys.  It does it in all gears with no change in sound.  Will check everything I can get to and think of.
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Reply #10 - 01/26/07 at 09:07:48
 
Of course.  If you had a tach, you could nail it down to the same RPMs produce the same frequency.
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Reply #11 - 01/26/07 at 09:11:07
 
Try putting palm pressure on your speedometer housing, they often develop a rattle.
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Reply #12 - 01/26/07 at 09:40:28
 
just a thought.... hows your oil level???my 06 consumes oil on longer highway speed runs...
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Reply #13 - 01/26/07 at 10:51:55
 
Along with the speedo as a known vibration source, the headlight can cause noisy vibrations if you've installed a Suzuki headlight visor.
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Re: Rattle when accelerating
Reply #14 - 01/26/07 at 11:01:47
 
My gas cap vibrated and made a rattling noise at speed. I fixed it by cutting a wide o-ring out of a scrap sheet of rubber and fitting that on top of the existing rubber seal on the gas cap.

The extra thickness caused the rattle to stop.

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