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WOW...those S40's are nice!
01/27/07 at 21:11:38
 
Total noob here.  Basically zero motorcycle experience, then my best friend gets one a couple months ago, now I'm totally consumed with getting one myself.  

Stoke of luck at my local shop this morning when the salesguy offered to let me ride a Virago 250 around the lot for 20 mins or so.  Felt good, but man was the steering/handlebars twitchy!

They had four brand new S40's and I asked if he could fire one up, because I've never heard a thumper before.  Man it was sweet!!!  Granted, I don't have alot to compare it to, and the Virago is like comparing apples and salamanders, but I must say it seemed smoother running than the 2-cylinder Virago, and LOTS more stable (he let me ease off the clutch just to walk it a bit).  It warmed up really fast with minimum choke and had alot less vibration than expected, although a very slight backfire when slightly revved (probably still a bit cold).  

Ok, I'll stop rambling.  Just wanted to let you guys know the S40 really grabs me in a big way.  Bigger than the 250's...Rebel, Virago, etc, but not so freakin huge I couldn't stop it from falling over (hopefully).  Really seemed to suit me personally.  And the sound....man I love the sound! Can imagine how nice it'd be with a little louder exhaust.  Grin

Now just have to convince the wife motorcycles aren't dangerous.  Sad Wish me luck.
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Re: WOW...those S40's are nice!
Reply #1 - 01/27/07 at 21:15:09
 
Welcome to the site and hopefully to riding!  You'll be able to cure most if not all of the stock backfiring should you get an LS650 and decide to.  Some folks become endeared to it and leave it alone.
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Re: WOW...those S40's are nice!
Reply #2 - 01/27/07 at 21:16:33
 
scooter_07 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
Now just have to convince the wife motorcycles aren't dangerous.  Sad Wish me luck.


Maybe the better course of action is to convince your wife that you are safe, because riding motorcycles carries an inherent level of risk with it.
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Reply #3 - 01/27/07 at 22:07:34
 
welcome to site  Smiley

unless you live in all round hot climate (doesn't sound like it) you'd be well advised to wait a bit & take a motorcycle course - most reasonable size towns have them, run by very experienced enthusiasts.

that way not only would it persuade wife you are serious about riding before you buy the bike (& get you more certain riding is for you), but in case of this area, passing a course (others on site will recall name of the course) it earns you a motorcycle endorsement on your license without having to take a motorcycle test.

were I you I would  get to place early & not grab hold of a cruiser style bike like Virago or Savage/S40, but an enduro - sure seat height is a lot more (unless you are very short should be no problem though). However the big plus is they are a lot easier to get in & out of cones or turn in given circle that the course here anyway requires. so you pass test more easy (boy my grammar sucks tonight - & I speak/write English & not American!
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Re: WOW...those S40's are nice!
Reply #4 - 01/27/07 at 23:33:53
 
Welcome to a whole new world of stuff to spend your hard earned money on. But, What a way to go....

Like scooter and George have mentioned, emphasis on safety. that may not change her mind but this lifestyle does come with "let's be EXTRA careful out there." [Eshterhouse Hill Street Blues] (If you remember)  
George mentioned smaller bikes to take your tests. In my area they supplied the bikes, and they were small 250 and alike. I had a small amount of trouble getting them to work like my Savage. Then I stopped fighting with it realizing that it ain't my bike and the instructor doesn't want to see me go down. (Swearved thru the quick manuever challlege like I was on a BMW, But that's another story.)
Here is the link to the Safety course. www.msf-usa.org
How they run it and your requirements may differ. Suggestion. When classes start, they go quick. I applied at 8:09am day registration (8am), I got # 12 of the second weekend.
Good luck. If you learn properly you will find a shared interest that will serve you well and for years to come.
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Reply #5 - 01/27/07 at 23:48:54
 
I still really get a kick out of just walking by the bike, looking at that stance, small machine, gives me BIGGO smiles. If I could do it over, tho, I would buy used. Save tons O $$$. I felt like I needed new cuz I had no idea how to work on one & I knew it would take a while to learn, so I wanted new so it would have a warranty. These guys here<Had I known about this site I woulda bought used> can help get ya thru about anything. If you can post pics, they can get ya thru anything at all. It just takes longer. What part O th country you in??
Good luck. Also, if you have any desire to pretend you are a road racer the Kawasaki Ninja 250 is on my "Wish List" cuz I hear they are a real fun little ride, too. Nothing like the 650 Zuki, totally different type of machine. I want one of those sooo bad, I really wish I could learn to just ride calmly & enjoy the ride, but I seem to feel the need to see how fast it will corner. With practice, it does pretty well. If you get one, you won't be sorry.
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Reply #6 - 01/28/07 at 00:15:47
 
scooter_07 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
Now just have to convince the wife motorcycles aren't dangerous.  Sad Wish me luck.


welcome, you will love your savage for years to come.

motorcycles are safe, its the inattentive drivers that are the danger, be sure to bring this up as she's driving just to prove the point.

everybody's got their opinion and methods of learning and all are valid. i'll just give you the first, the most important, and really the only rule.

[glow=red,2,300]YOU ARE INVISIBLE [/glow]

ok ok maybe a second rule.  You will go down at some point if you ride.

enjoy
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Reply #7 - 01/28/07 at 00:44:02
 
While I believed falling was innevitable, I did do it quite often. After I met some old guys riding old bikes in mint condition & they told me they had never dropped it in all those years I was impressed. I saw a story on some old,, (did I mention he was OLD?) dude, riding an Indian, since 48, & this story was just a few years ago. He has never dropped that bike. Rides all the time. I recently did drop mine. A slope in the back yard, wet leaves & grass & the fron tire went out from under it. Still my fault. I had been runnin thru there for a while & I let myself get too comfortable. Thankfully, ZERO damage.

I found motorcycle accisent reports online & spent hours reading. The distance behind someone while a driver wants to turn left is important.VERy. I recommend everyone hunt those reports up. I no longer have the addy or I would share it. Crashing is not a given. While we believe it is, we won't hold ourselves to a high enough standard as we work to avoid it.
Gramma said "Be careful & have fun." That's a tough combination.. The S 40 makes it possible.
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Reply #8 - 01/28/07 at 06:10:03
 
scooter_07 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
....Now just have to convince the wife motorcycles aren't dangerous.  Sad Wish me luck.


http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000840.html

Statistically, per mile riden/driven, a motorcycle is a little over three times as likely to be involved in an accident than a car.  However that is *all cars*.   The people who ride motorcycles tend to be risk takers, such as the drivers of high performance sport cars.  I have not been able to find statistics on the per mile accident rate of high performance cars, but I would bet that it is as bad or worse than motorcycles.

I would guess that the odds of any individual getting into an accident with a motorcycle is about the same as when they are in a car.  Possibly worse due to greater risk taking, possibly better due to better performance and smaller target.

Whether or not *you* get into an accident depends largely upon you and how you ride.  If you have a 10 year history of driving without any accidents or close calls -- this will likely continue with your riding.  If you've crumpled your car occasionally in the past few years you might want to reconsider getting a motorcycle.

If you have an accident in a car you are protected by a steel cage and most likely will not be hurt to any great degree, it at all.

In you have an accident on a bike you have no protection, other than what you wear, and most likely will be hurt.

In terms of increasing commonness, you can have a two-vehicle collision, where you and some other vehicle attempt to occupy the same space at the same time, in violation of the laws of physics.  Generally done are higher speeds, and generally *very bad*.  Your body will depart the bike and assume it's own trajectory, sliding on surfaces abrading your surface and/or striking objects.  You will be hurt, how bad depends in large part on how you are dressed.

You can have a collision with a fixed object, again quite bad as you are moving and the object isn't and their will be rapid decelerations, without the restraints of seat belts/airbags/etc..

You can run off the road, and come to a gradual stop in the weeds, bushes, etc., possibly ending up on your side after a low speed drop.

Finally, the odds are *very* high that you will drop your bike -- at a low or no speed.  You might not even be on the bike, as you you get off and forget to deploy the kick stand.

Basically, you can tell the wife that you are no more likely to be involved in a collision on the bike as wher you are in a car.  And even if you are you will be wearing your leather / ballastic nylon and full face helmet to minimize damage to your body.

Also emphasize that with the bike you it will be far easier and cheaper to bop over to the store to pick up a prescription or a dozen eggs or a pack of 6 x 1.5 screws needed to complete a honey-do.  In the event of a disaster you both will be able to ride past the traffic jams leaving town.  Whatever -- she's your spouse, you should know what will get her to accept the usefulness of the motorcycle.  Useful, not *just* a toy.   And that her fears of your being hurt are mostly unjustified.
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Re: WOW...those S40's are nice!
Reply #9 - 01/28/07 at 06:22:52
 
sluggo wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
i'll just give you the first, the most important, and really the only rule.

[glow=red,2,300]YOU ARE INVISIBLE [/glow]


[glow=red,2,300]NOT INVICIBLE! [/glow]

Take the BRC (Basic Riders Course). You may not think you need it, that's ok. Take it anyway. It's only $100.00 here in NC (maybe different elsewhere) and that will be nothing compared to the price of your gear. Motorcycling is fun but not cheap. Buy the best gear you can afford, then take what money you have left and buy your bike. You skin will thank you for it later.

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Reply #10 - 01/28/07 at 06:25:05
 
get her one too! worked for me  Grin if you attend the MSF course (i recommend it) put her through it too, if she never rides again, she'll appreciate the attention to safety, and perhaps, be more easily persuaded to shell out the $$$ for good riding gear.
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Re: WOW...those S40's are nice!
Reply #11 - 01/28/07 at 07:31:05
 
Thanks for the replies.  Some good and insightful ideas.  

Her main concern is the other guy because people just don't see motorcycles like they should.  And that's a valid concern.  

But I don't think people (like my wife) realize the huge differences in types of riders.  Big difference in a teenager on a sportbike using it as primary transportation and doing tricks in the rain...versus me, 41, only plan to ride under ideal conditions, lightly trafficked backroads, and never out of necessity...pure pleasure machine.  Traffic makes me nervous even in a car, so I plan to avoid busy intersections and urban areas as much as possible.  Fortunately, we got some great backroads here in middle TN.  

Having said that, we got a pretty long driveway, so I plan to stay on that and practice a few weeks, then once she gets used to the idea of me being on a bike, maybe take it down the road 2-3 miles at a time...just take the whole thing nice and easy and slow.  I ain't in no hurry.  Very patient dude here.  8) Might be weeks/months before even get a bike.

Then after a few months if she's still having hissyfits, I can sell the darn thing and get back into Corvettes and show her how expensive a hobby can really be.  Angry

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Reply #12 - 01/28/07 at 10:29:47
 
The most eye opening part of the accident reports for me was the distance a bike was travelling behind the last car in a line as oncoming traffic waited to turn left,then turned left in front of the bike, not a car. This is one of the most common accidents we encounter( or find ourselves avoiding if we are riding right) IF we are not right on that last cars tail & are a couple seconds back, we are askin for it.If we are far enough back to allow someone to turn left behind the last car in line in front of us & not get run over, we are safe(r). This is my preferred method. If I am gonna be in this spot with oncomming looking like they want to turn left in front O me, I flash my light high/low a few times & move back & forth across the lane, to make sure they see me. The distance out front of a line of traffic can be another invitation to a left turn incident, but, I can't say as I really understand what I learned from the statistics, so I won't try to lay it out, (blind leading blind yadda yadda,LOL)

I did gain some clues that I think have been helpful in my staying safe in traffic by reading accident reports & safety suggestions online. I spent hours & hours at that when I got the bike. I still think it was time well spent.



Important safety info**

Controlling what we look at in an emergency is absolutely crucial.We go where we are looking more often than not. If you are about to run wide & go off the road, look up the corner, where you want to go, not where you see yourself runnin off the road.If you are running off the road & see a mailbox to hit, look past that thing, one side or the other & DRIVE it there. Keep lookin at that mailbox & that's where you will go.


NOTE**
One report (fatal crash) was one vehicle, ran off road, one mailbox & NOThing else for a block to hit. That's what he hit. His eyes were on it, he was scared & he died from a simple mistake. Having THAT in my arsenal has saved my butt more than once. Consciously deciding where to NOT look makes a difference.
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Reply #13 - 01/28/07 at 19:43:34
 
MSF course - THAT's what they call it in CO! as far as cruisers on course - they had small ones (I presume Rebels but maybe bigger - Kathe did not notice/size, only   that they were cruisers. also said they had Buells (not sure what size they come in but thought/think bigger than 250) as far as enduros - she said they were reasonable size (I guess a 250, otherwise they would not have had them to learn on) whatever, she grabbed one & said it was easier to do little turns than on Savage (which she practiced for some time on on school playground.

I never took a course (did not have them in England when I learnt/taught myself on a little 75 cc Zundapp (Eastern European) 2 stroke riding around on the - big - lawn @ my folks way back. however, they did later in UK & both ex-wife - who became an instructor (!) & later girlfriend both did & I think ended up better riders than I think I am.

agree with "you are invisible"  bit. I always have the mantra "everyone out there is out to kill me" & ride accordingly.

don't think it is only skill that has bearing on how close you come to accident or even if you have one - sometimes it is dumb (un)luck - I've only had 2 close ones in 20 years of riding here but had more back in less time home in UK where people tend to be more attentive to bikes.

still - 39 years of riding & no broken bones so must be  doing something right.

hope you do take up riding - it does give one a feeling of freedom more than anything I know (I'm scared ofsome things such as horse riding, diving & skiing which I'm told give similar feeling)
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Reply #14 - 01/29/07 at 11:42:24
 
scooter_07 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:
Total noob here.  Basically zero motorcycle experience, then my best friend gets one a couple months ago, now I'm totally consumed with getting one myself.  

Stoke of luck at my local shop this morning when the salesguy offered to let me ride a Virago 250 around the lot for 20 mins or so.  Felt good, but man was the steering/handlebars twitchy!

They had four brand new S40's and I asked if he could fire one up, because I've never heard a thumper before.  Man it was sweet!!!  Granted, I don't have alot to compare it to, and the Virago is like comparing apples and salamanders, but I must say it seemed smoother running than the 2-cylinder Virago, and LOTS more stable (he let me ease off the clutch just to walk it a bit).  It warmed up really fast with minimum choke and had alot less vibration than expected, although a very slight backfire when slightly revved (probably still a bit cold).  

Ok, I'll stop rambling.  Just wanted to let you guys know the S40 really grabs me in a big way.  Bigger than the 250's...Rebel, Virago, etc, but not so freakin huge I couldn't stop it from falling over (hopefully).  Really seemed to suit me personally.  And the sound....man I love the sound! Can imagine how nice it'd be with a little louder exhaust.  Grin

Now just have to convince the wife motorcycles aren't dangerous.  Sad Wish me luck.


Get a motorcycle for your wife. Of course you will probably have to part with a little cash too since that kind of trade is never straight across the board.

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