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08/27/08 at 12:23:07
 
So I'm in the market for my first bike.  I plan on commuting 40 miles per day and I'm looking to save on gas.  I've only rode bicycle's and mopeds.  I like the looks of the s40 and my farther-in-law has already gifted me a complete set of leathers.  I'm 5'8 and wieght 155 soaked wet.  November is when I'll buy and I plan on riding year around so I can keep my SUV parked.  I WILL be taking the rider course before purchase.  So any feedback you can offer will help and I'm not a big gear head but I'm a redneck that can fix anything with wire and ducktape. Grin
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Reply #1 - 08/27/08 at 12:38:39
 
The Savage (S40=Savage) is a great MC especially for a first timer. It's pluses and minuses have been discussed many times in this forum, so I'll try to just address the topics you brought up in your post.

Whether or not you'll be happy 40 miles per day on the Savage depends if you're commuting on an high speed interstate with lots of traffic and trucks - maybe not. If you are going to be commuting on secondary roads with a top speed of 55 or 60 mph the Savage will be in its element.

With your height and weight, you should be OK on the Savage.

Riding in the winter (you don't say where you live) is a special province. The Savage offers no protection from the elements. On the other hand it is light and pretty nimble for a cruiser. Being a thumper it runs fine in the cold. It has a fairly low power electrical system, so lots of electrical add-ons (such as gauntlets, jackets, pants, socks etc) aren't a good match.

Reliability, simple maintenance and repairs is another place the Savage excels.

In November you should be able to make a really good deal on a MC.
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Reply #2 - 08/27/08 at 12:45:30
 
Thanks for the input.  I live just outside Seattle, WA.  Little to no snow but we get a good deal of misty rain and I'll be on back roads only at a max speed of 50.  Can hit the highway but saves me no time.
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Reply #3 - 08/27/08 at 12:59:06
 
Your needs may be the best suited to a Savage that I have ever seen.
Perfect bike for you....
May want to add a windshield, for the rain.
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Reply #4 - 08/27/08 at 13:48:43
 
I'm a new rider as well (had my license about a month now) I live in WA and ride my Savage to work as well as for pleasure. As far as I can tell, this bike is excellent for us new people. I've had no trouble what-so-ever learning when to shift and whatnot even though there is no tachometer on my bike. Also it seems to have no trouble with the weather so far... I've left it out overnight at work in the rain (night shift... 5pm-5am yuck) and it started right up and took me all the way home with no complaints. I live out on the peninsula, so all the twisty-windy back roads make for awesome pleasure riding as well.  Cheesy

And as has been mentioned, maintenance on this this bike is totally doable for a newbie. I recently had to replace my battery, and thanks to the extensive assistance of the board members here, everything went perfectly.
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Reply #5 - 08/27/08 at 14:27:03
 
Also I know a guy willing to sell a 2007 S40 with 1500 miles, perfect condition and after market pipes.  Is $3500 still a deal.  Friend siad he knows for a fact the bike has been taken good care of.  The rider is just ready to move up to something with more power and speed.
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Reply #6 - 08/27/08 at 19:54:55
 
I'm up here in the bellingham area and I ride 40 miles a day to work and back. I have put over 4000 miles on since Feb (well minus the down time to get my shoulder put back together.) and the bike never complains.
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Reply #7 - 08/27/08 at 22:11:21
 
I've got over 3200 miles on an '08.
The fun and reliability are great.
It'll go seventy all day,
For gas, not much do I pay;
And it beats driving a four wheeled crate!

Embarrassed Uh, sorry 'bout that. I, um.....I really don't know what came over me. I won't do it again, I promise. Wink
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Reply #8 - 08/27/08 at 22:48:16
 
sa far as this as a starter bike all I can say is be careful. This is a very good bike and seems to fit your needs perfectly however for a beginner I can imagine it being quite easy to get yourself in trouble on this thing. I started on a Rebel 250 before I traded up. That thing was practically impossible to get yourself in any real trouble. It just didnt have the grapes. I had that up to 70 but acceleraction in comparison to the savage was extremely weak and 70 was a stretch in my opinion. On the savage I hit 70 without even trying or realizing it and it pulls like a freakin train from a stop. You could probably pull stumps with it. Size wise its not much bigger than the 250's and almost as easy to handle weighing only about 40lbs more than the Rebel 250 (dry weight). Its also EXTREMELY versatile. Japans answer the the 883 sportster IMO. Great for around town, more than adequate for interstates, able to be adapted to tour, race or just cruise leisurely.
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Reply #9 - 08/28/08 at 05:57:33
 
I'll second the idea that the S40 may be an ideal bike for your needs.  I came back to riding at age 61, after a 40 year layoff.  Back when I rode in college, a 650 was a very big bike - my last bike was a 305 Honda Dream.

I took the  MSF course in late May before I rode my S40 much.  We used Honda Rebels and Nighthawks in the course.

The S40 felt much bigger and more powerful after the course.  I've taken it slow, and now, after riding for only 1,000 miles, I'm starting to feel a lot more comfortable on the S40.  But, certainly am careful and not over confident.

You should do just fine on the S40.
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Reply #10 - 08/28/08 at 06:19:11
 
The Savage is a great bike.  

It is SO much more than a mere starter bike too.  Experienced riders really enjoy owning one.

It is small, light, nimble, reliable and good on gas.

People often complain about the seat comfort and the forward foot pegs, but both of those can be corrected, making a great bike even better.

You can't go wrong with a Savage.
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Reply #11 - 08/28/08 at 06:53:34
 
I had been without a bike for about 25 years & had been very ill for many years, to the point of not getting out of the house for mionths on end, not even driving a car. I was weak & really shouldnt have been on a bike, but I did it. I was so scared when it was time to ride it home, I almost didnt get on it. But, I did & that was almost 19,000 miles ago. It has enough power to be fun, but it's niot like some of these hotrodd mosheens out there, that will highside a guy out of a corner if he grabs the wrong gear/throttle settings. You can lug it or wind it out, but as long as you dont engage the clutch with the engine/trans not synchronized with the speed & knock the rear tire out from under it, you cant really mess up. provided you dont start playing like you are some great road racer & trying to hustle thru corners at crazy speeds. If I can get on this bike & ride it, the shape I was in, I cant imagine anyone being unable to safely manage this machine. Just take the safety course, get some good gear & wear it. You'll likely make mistakes in corners, be in the wrong gear & putz thru the corner, but its a really forgiving ride & wont spank you for it.
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Reply #12 - 08/28/08 at 07:35:51
 
I have been riding for a year now. I highly recommend a rider course if you are new to it. I have a 2007 S40. I ride in the Boston area which puts me on 128 all the time. Of course everyone tells me I must be nuts for driving 128, but like I tell them, how can you get hurt when you can't get over 15mph? I am over 6500 miles now.
I have done some modifications like a windscreen which has helped many times on the highway when trucks kick up rocks. Saddlebags help to stow lunch or small things when you have to stop for something on the way home. I have to run over to another location once a week and I try to schedule that for a good day so I can save gas. I have been tracking that and am getting about 55mpg. I have only dropped it twice. Once in a parking lot. Long story short, a guy cut between two cars as I was making the turn around the back side of a parking lot and I had to jam on the brakes while leaned over. Broke a tail light. First lesson in repairs. The other was being a wise guy in a parking lot. During the MC class you had to do a figure eight in a box. I was pretty good at it on the Nighthawk, tried it with the Savage. Not so good. Caught it before it hit the ground but pulled up to hard and fast and it went over the other way. Dang, another tail light.
Besides the windscreen and bags, I swapped out the seat for a gel seat. That has made a difference. I have about an hour commute and your butt can get a little sore.
Though my buddy busts my chops for having a windshield and wearing a full mask, I have found on my commute it is best. Especially right now when they are repaving 128. It is all gouged up. Fun to drive on, NOT! They also don't clean it up too well after gouging so that crap is flying at you. I caught one to my arm on the way in this morning, yowch.
Just got back from vacation last week. Took it up to New Hampshire and cruised the Kankamagus with the kids. (Wife had the car and took one with her out to Conway and I took the other and then swapped on the return.) It is an amazing ride with a lot of scenic beauty.
I had taken it in for its 700 checkup which cost about $200. When I hit 3000, I took it to the local shop for an oil and filter change. Cha-ching! $75. My jaw dropped. So I was glad to find this forum where I could learn to take care of this bike myself. So I may be posting a few questions of my own in a few.
While I love it for just cruising around town, highway speeds could use a bit more power. I am 6;2, 250, so it is a bit short for me too. I was looking at the S83 which they didn't have when I was looking last year. Though maybe the S50 would be enough. I still have three years to pay on this one though.
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Reply #13 - 08/28/08 at 09:03:25
 
The Savage is my first bike. (I've only had it a couple weeks and my MCL is a ways out so I'm sticking to local roads when I'm home. I've got temps so I'm legal though.  Grin)

My motivation for it: I knew I wouldn't have funds about $2k available to pay off a bike (or an upgrade) for about two or three years. My dad really wanted me on a 250 but I grabbed a Savage instead. Well, he did for me.

My reasoning is I want a bike with the stones to pull highway without being on it's last breath. I play guitar so I know the cost of upgrade after upgrade until you get the top of the line, what you wanted to begin with. Except bikes were a heck of a lot more expensive to step up after each year. So I went with the safe up-step. It cost as much as about any GZ 250 I saw and was still a nice, light, controllable bike.
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Reply #14 - 08/28/08 at 10:29:43
 
My '06 S40 was the first bike I was on since I quit riding back in the late '80's.  Back then, I rode everything from a Ducati 250 single to a Suzuki GS750L.  Admittedly, my memory may be a little faulty, but the S40 seems to have as much power as the GS750 did up to about 55-60 mph.  I also hear a lot of stories about people buying the Suzuki GZ250s or the Rebel 250s and almost immediately wanting to trade up.  I almost bought a Rebel because of the relative cheapness of one, but I'm glad I didn't since I don't think it would handle interstate very well.

My commute is 17 miles a day with about 7 miles of it on the interstate.  My '06 has no trouble at all keeping up with the traffic.  I'm also going to college at night and from work to school, it's approximately 22 miles on the interstate and the S40 has no issues happily thumping along a 65+ for the whole trip.
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