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Reply #30 - 10/28/08 at 20:39:25
 
I understand the frustration, everything checked out with my old carb as well and still had the flooding problem. I had even tried putting a new rubber o-ring under the pilot/air screw.
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Reply #31 - 10/28/08 at 21:35:19
 
Just stopped in...
Don't give up,...there's only so many parts in there, and if you keep thinking, and studying it, you've got to figure it out eventually...
And you will know that carb upside down and inside out.
If you break down on the road 2 years from now, you'll know the workings of that carb so well you can fix it on the spot, right on the side of the road.

...or 2 weeks from now you'll set that sucker on the back fence and blow it to kingdom come with a 12 gauge...
You'll have a great story to tell though...
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Reply #32 - 10/28/08 at 21:58:35
 
you have said several times that the carb is completely clean inside with no sign of any crud, but did you blow out all of the assorted passageways in the carb body?  When rebuilding a stock carb I usually go through at least half if not a full can of carb cleaner in the process of making sure all of the passageways are completely clear and flowing well.  I blow the cleaner through both ends of each passage several times, back and forth, checking and rechecking unobstructed flow.  It is a pain, but when the carb goes back together I KNOW that I will not have any of those type of issues to deal with, and when I turn an adjustment screw the carb WILL respond properly to my adjustment.

Also, did you in fact run the engine with the petcock in the PRIME position in order to eliminate that as a possible problem ?  That is a common issue.

I am working on a stock carb now and found a clogged passage that runs through a very tiny brass tube that sticks down into the float bowl.  That passage runs up to the choke (enricher) but also is connected to the pilot system through a side passage within the carb body.  After several unsuccessful attempts with the pressureized carb cleaner I finally found some super fine stainless wire in my wifes craft supplies that would fit into the super small hole and used that to penetrate the hard pack in the tube...worked on that one passage for over an hour.   One less potential problem.
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Reply #33 - 10/28/08 at 22:22:24
 
Ya Lancer I did but just to be sure I'm going to pull the carb out again and give it yet another thorough cleaning. I just finished doing the petcock mod "just in case" something is going on there. The diaphragm felt real strong but I yanked it all anyways. It would probably need to be done soon anyways and now it's one less thing to wonder about. I'm gonna check in my truck cause I know I have some caps for the vacuum fittings in there but I guess it's a little late to keep starting this thing up. I'll check back in the morning to see if anyone has any ideas..otherwise I'll start it again, test ride it, and if need be I'll yank the carb and use as much carb cleaner as I can haha
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Reply #34 - 10/28/08 at 22:27:03
 
All the caps I had were over 3/8" so I'll head off to pick some up in the morning and get back to work on this thing. Thanks for all your input guys I'll be back tomorrow morning
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Reply #35 - 10/29/08 at 10:35:26
 
Guitar strings are great for cleaning carb passages...Buy a set of .009 electric strings for $5.00 and you have a lifetime supply.  .009,.011 will get in anywhere.  Gauges: .009, .011, .016, .026, .036, .046.
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Reply #36 - 10/29/08 at 11:07:33
 
Here's the update. Did the petcock mod last night. Capped off the ports today, picked up a new plug just for kicks (also so I have a spare), and I pulled out the carb...again. Every passage is clear and it definately is good to go. One thing that I had been overlooking cause I thought it was normal was the appearance of the slide. It didn't seem to drag when I'd move it up and down but it had black over most of it, as if it was painted and parts of it rubbed off. Don't know if I should have done this but I took some real fine synthetic wool and some 600 grit wet/dry paper. Polished that baby up and also the inside of where the slide goes. It is smooth as silk now and I can feel it is actually moving much better. I have 2 washers on the needle, the 150 main jet from Lancers, and a 45 pilot jet. The idle is where I think it should be without a tach, and the air screw is about 1 turn out. I don't want to jump the gun but I think "something" out of all those things may have helped cause I just took about a 50 min ride all around the city and it appears to be working great. I'm going to do some more test runs and some of the tests Lancer told me to do, to make sure the main jet is where it should be. I hooooope it's actually good to go now. One thing, with the petcock mod, the inline filter I installed isn't staying full of fuel the whole time I'm riding now. It didn't seem to affect anything, I just remember that before it always stayed full of fuel.
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Reply #37 - 10/29/08 at 11:17:56
 
88pagan wrote on 10/29/08 at 11:07:33:
One thing, with the petcock mod, the inline filter I installed isn't staying full of fuel the whole time I'm riding now. It didn't seem to affect anything, I just remember that before it always stayed full of fuel.


Okay, think about it Pagan, before the mod, your inline filter was always full of fuel and you were running so rich you were flooding out, now with the mod, you seem to be running good, and fuel filter not full of fuel. Now anybody please correct me if I am on the wrong track here.

To me, that would suggest your petcock wasn't working correctly and was just dumping so much fuel it would fill the bowl and the line causing it to back up and keeping your fuel filter full. With the mod, you have corrected that situation.

Now remember, that is just my thinking on it.
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Reply #38 - 10/29/08 at 11:21:34
 
I guess you're right. Although, before I broke a valve, the fuel filter was always full too. I'm not going to question it, if it keeps running now and doesn't run out of fuel or flood, I'm happy! Hmm, I wonder if that 45 pilot is going to turn out to be too small now. No backfire on the ride I just went on, no backfires or pops or anything upon shutdown...and I already noticed it's running MUCH cooler. Must have been running so hot from being overly rich
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Reply #39 - 10/29/08 at 16:33:44
 
Nice work!...Congratulations...
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Reply #40 - 10/29/08 at 16:38:07
 
Hey hey hey don't congratulate too soon! Might jinx me. Weather is calling for possibly a little bit of rain here this weekend so not sure how much more I'll get to mess with it. I'm hoping it's good to go but it kinda bothers me that now that it's finally running good, I can't get a difference in rpms messing with the air screw. I guess if it's running, and no backfiring, and running cool I should just leave it alone?? Air/fuel screw is feeling rough as though I'm messing it up playing with it so much. It only has about 2 turns of adjustment in it. Maybe I should pull it out, clean the threads and replace it? Or if it continues running well the next couple days I might just leave it alone
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