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Re: I hear you knockin'
Reply #45 - 01/05/09 at 11:49:24

verslagen1 wrote on 01/05/09 at 09:23:16:

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 01/05/09 at 08:59:04:

From the OEM parts finder tool the dealers have:
CYLINDER
11210-24B07-0F0 (replaces 11210-24B06)

I beleave the last dash number is for the black finish.

So, I guess I have a spare jug and piston already. Grin

Actually I looked at a '87 so that should be silver..... but looking at a 2004 that should be black we get:
11210-24B07-0F0 (replaces 11210-24B07) and
11210-24B10-0F0

So.... only guessing but I would say that the 24B10 is the black.....

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Re: I hear you knockin'
Reply #46 - 01/05/09 at 13:00:09

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 01/05/09 at 11:49:24:

verslagen1 wrote on 01/05/09 at 09:23:16:

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 01/05/09 at 08:59:04:

From the OEM parts finder tool the dealers have:
CYLINDER
11210-24B07-0F0 (replaces 11210-24B06)

I beleave the last dash number is for the black finish.

So, I guess I have a spare jug and piston already. Grin

Actually I looked at a '87 so that should be silver..... but looking at a 2004 that should be black we get:
11210-24B07-0F0 (replaces 11210-24B07) and
11210-24B10-0F0

So.... only guessing but I would say that the 24B10 is the black.....

At the site I looked at, they had the 11210-24B07 for a '95 as well as the 11210-24B07-0F0 for a '04 (I think) didn't note when the changed over, but pretty sure the '-0F0' stands for black finish.

I'm also pretty sure the B06, B07 & B10 are the revision code. Actually 24B is for the bike model.

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Re: I hear you knockin'
Reply #47 - 01/05/09 at 14:31:34

Verslagen, to fully soften steel you need to go that high, but to draw it some you only have to go over 350 degrees.

A good draw of 600-800 degrees F used to take a tenth or two off of a die pin's OD measurements, so I guess I was thinking more of a draw state rather than a full anneal.

We do hit the 350 range on occasion, don't you think?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 29042 L.A. California Gender:	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #48 - 01/05/09 at 14:53:43 And heating up to anneal might take off 2 or 4. But any how, it's not like baking an orange. You don't start off a fat piece of metal and end up with a sheet of paper by baking it longer. Once you bring it up to temp, and it shrinks abit, you can bring it up that temp again and it won't shrink much more.
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Re: I hear you knockin'
Reply #49 - 01/06/09 at 08:30:55

If I had the borescope mentioned earlier, I could've seen the melted area in the piston and diagnosed the problem prior to teardown. Could also be used to inspect the valve seats. Could also have found Pagans lost part in the sump. Might even be used to inspect the cam chain tensioner from going in the oil fill.

Think I talked myself into something.

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Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #50 - 01/06/09 at 09:26:01 Jerry Eichenberger may be able to verify this, but I believe a borescope inspection of each cylinder is part of an aircraft's annual inspection. If so the local airport probably has a mechanic with a borescope, who will - for a fee - be willing to inspect your bike's engine and perhaps save you the expense of buying a borescope.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #51 - 01/07/09 at 00:00:27 & there is an obstruction built in below the oil fill. Ive never played with a Scope so I dont know how many turns it can make. Heck, now that I typed this, it occurs to me, You've seen what Im talking about, probably more than once. Not erasin it. Anyone have a pic of a borescope? Never seen one.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 29042 L.A. California Gender:	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #52 - 01/07/09 at 07:33:52
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Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #53 - 01/07/09 at 15:12:32 If you have ever had a colonoscopy, laparoscopy, or gastroscopy, you have had a borescope by another name used on you.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #54 - 01/07/09 at 18:30:10 Yea, true enough. I've never been "scoped". My dad told me I would never need one 'Up there". He told me I had the place under 24 hour surveilance.
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Re: I hear you knockin'
Reply #55 - 01/22/09 at 22:38:40

SHE LIVES! BUHAHA BWHUUUHAHA!

Oh sh!t, forgot the muffler, buhaha, buuuhaha. I see I'm gonna have to mod the muf. Not quite what I was looking for.

Bought a wrecked '02 and swapped everything out.

Still putting it back together, but just had to see if I was on the right track. I see I'm gonna get quizzed tomorrow, did you get a hair cut?, loose weight? ... Ol' smilin' bob ain't got nothin' on me Grin

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 29042 L.A. California Gender:	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #56 - 01/30/09 at 22:35:53 Got her back together, mostly, wire hanging out all over. lol. But screwed up the shifter, she only shifts up. rode around the block in second. Dead tired now, will look at in the morning.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 29042 L.A. California Gender:	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #57 - 01/31/09 at 23:15:23 Got it fixed, repositioned the shift arm and that did the trick.
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photojoe FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline I did warn you to brace yourself Posts: 1379 New Jersey Gender:	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #58 - 02/01/09 at 08:06:39 This is one bike that I'm really looking forward to seeing when it's finished. Also, I'm glad that those of us who voted for the rod/lower end knock were wrong.
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sluggo Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline big singles lead, twins follow the pack Posts: 4744 moses lake washington Gender:	Re: I hear you knockin' Reply #59 - 02/01/09 at 21:45:32 verslagen1 wrote on 12/27/08 at 14:40:03: PipJones wrote on 12/03/08 at 06:33:52: what is the compression of the cylinder? psi? Pip Jones 105 dry / 110 with a squirt of oil. borescope: http://www.tooldesk.com/shop/borescope1.wml ouch..... pretty pricey...
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